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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
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1161.0. "David Bowie" by MDATA::ROSE (just gimme some truth) Wed Apr 20 1988 12:20

    
                          
    Anyone seen (or heard of) PRE Scary Monsters discs at reasonable prices??
    (U.S.) I've seen Heroes, Low, and I think Ziggy at Rock n Mania
    for $20 each.  Are these available in the UK at 'standard' prices?
    
    I'd love to get everything from Space Oddity up to Scary Monsters!
    
    I've never even seen Diamond Dogs, Station to Station, Young
    Americans...
    
    Who knows the scoop?
    
    Bob
    
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1161.1They are availableROCKON::RADLERWed Apr 20 1988 13:118
    
        All Bowies catalogue are available from the USA. You can order
    them from Sound City, USA. 4120 S.E. International Way, Suite A-211
    Milwaukie,Oregon 97222. Tel Weekdays only 503-654-2196. No Imports.
    All of Bowies discs are listed at 14.98. I've never used them but
    have the catalogue. They will take Mastercharge and ship UPS.
    
                                             Rich
1161.2MDATA::ROSEjust gimme some truthWed Apr 20 1988 13:499
    
    WOW!  Thanks, now I have to figure out which one(S) to get!
    
    Any that you've heard that stand out sound-wise?  How about side
    2 of Heroes/Low?  (I love the music on all his work before Let's
    Dance)
    
    Bob
    
1161.3Here's the ListROCKON::RADLERWed Apr 20 1988 15:4926
    
      I haven't heard any of his work on disc. Here is a list of the
    CD's available and the cat #
    
          TITLE              CAT #          TITLE                   CAT #
    1)ALADDIN SANE        PCD1-4852    11)LOW                     PCD1-2030
    2)CHANGESONEBOWIE     PCD1-732     12)MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD  PCD1-4816
    3)CHANGESTWOBOWIE     PCD1-4202    13)NEVER LET ME DOWN       CDP-46677     
    4)DIAMOND DOGS        PCD1-0576    14)PIN UPS                 PCD1-0291
    5)FAME&FASHION        PCD1-4919    15)RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY  PCD1-4702
    6)GOLDEN YEARS        PCD1-4792    16)SCARY MONSTERS          PCD1-3647
    7)HEROES              PCD1-2522    17)SPACE ODDITY            PCD1-4813
    8)HUNKY DORY          PCD1-4623    18)STATIONTOSTATION        PCD1-1327
    9)LET'S DANCE         CDP-46002    19)TONIGHT                 CDP-46047
   10)LODGER              PCD1-3254    20)YOUNG AMERICANS         PCD1-0998
    
            
           The catalogue prices are 14.98. Some of the Sound City's prices
    have fallen. You can ask when you call if Bowies happen to be the
    ones getting the discount but if Bowies happen to be, you will get the
    discounted prices automatically. CDP is Capital and those three discs are
    available through Noteworthy for under $12. They don't have the
    PCD1's listed. I think that is RCA.
                                            
                                       Good Luck
                                        Rich
1161.4"Ziggy played for time, jiving us that we were voodoo"AYOV10::DROBBBreaking rocks in the hot sun...Thu Apr 21 1988 05:1344
    Thanks to -1 for the listing incl. CAT nos. - I believe there are
    three titles missing from this list, and coincidentally all three
    are 'live' recordings, i.e. :-
    
    "Ziggy Stardust - The Motion Picture" (1973 concert)
    "David Live" (1974 concert)
    "Stage" (1978 concert)
    
    I'm pretty certain that all three are currently available, but I
    don't have the Cat. Nos. at hand.  Mind you, I wouldn't exactly
    rush out to buy them - someway, somehow, Bowie (or RCA at least)
    has yet to release a decent live performance.  Years back, they
    talked about releasing a recording of an October '72 gig in Santa
    Monica, CA. - they delayed, and whaddyaknow, the bootleggers beat
    'em to it!  Indeed, it's one of the best boots I've ever heard,
    having been recorded from an FM radio broadcast.  Superb!
    
    Other Bowie CD's which (I think) are available on the continent
    (but not here in the U.K.) are :-
    
    "Peter And The Wolf" recital
    "Christiane F." soundtrack
    "Rare" compilation
    
    Another (non-RCA) CD which WAS available in Germany three to four
    years ago entitled simply "David Bowie" and consisting of songs
    from his 1966/67 period with Deram/Decca, is now much sought-after,
    and in fact is listed in this month's 'Record Collector' magazine
    as having a current saleable value of c.$160!!  Wouldn't mind bagging
    a few boxes of these on my next trip to Deutschland!!
    
    One final point - I don't yet have a CD player, but I have 100+
    Bowie LP's plus 45's, cassettes, videos etc. etc.  I keep waiting
    for the price of the software to come down.....
    
    Dougie Robb, Ayr, Scotland
    
    P.S.  I read earlier this week that a video of the 'Glass Spider'
          tour is gonna be hitting the streets just shortly - I hope
          EMI America spare us from the usual accompanying double
          album release.  I've heard audio tapes of some of the gigs,
          and let's just say that it most definately was not one of
          his most memorable tours (from a performance as opposed to
          visual perspective).
1161.5BOWIE 66/67ROCKON::RADLERThu Apr 21 1988 13:246
    
            I saw a Cd entitled David Bowie the 66/67 years. I'm not
    sure if it was an import or not. It was under $20.00 I believe 
    at Rockit Records in NH.
    
                             Rich
1161.6LESLIE::LESLIEAndy `{o}^{o}' Leslie | CSSESun Apr 24 1988 15:292
    Don't worry,. that onde dates back to DB's Tony Newley period and
    is....limited in it's appeal.
1161.7Best of?LARVAE::BRIGGSThey use computers don't they?Tue Apr 26 1988 04:046
    Anyone know of a 'Best of...' compilation? I know there's Changes
    One and Two but I'm not paying good money for 11 or 12 tracks a
    piece. What I want is both these combined onto a single CD.
    
    Richard
    @snamprogetti (UK)
1161.8Shell out the bucks, it worth itTOOK::MICHAUDJeff MichaudTue Apr 26 1988 17:337
    Re: .-1
    
    Changes One is well worth it.  All tracks are great (except for
    Diamond Dog, which I don't care for).
    
    It's not like your getting one of those Soundtrack CD's that only
    put 25 minutes of music on it.
1161.9"And I'm floating in a most peculiar way"AYOV10::DROBBBreaking rocks in the hot sun...Wed Apr 27 1988 09:1623
    The point made about combining 'ChangesOne' and 'ChangesTwo' is
    quite valid, and I think the total playing time would be pretty
    damn close to the 75 mins. (is that still true?) maximum for a single
    CD.  However, let's be perfectly honest - there's no way in this
    world that RCA are gonna market it in this manner, when they've
    been coining in the cash for two separate releases for the last
    X no. of years (on vinyl).
    
    The same could well be said for those other RCA compilations, 'Golden
    Years' and 'Fame And Fashion', albeit that these were released after
    he'd dodged off to EMI America.
    
    Here in the U.K., the TV company K-Tel released a passable (except
    for the omission of 'Drive-In Saturday') "Best Of D.B." back in
    1980 - however, since the LP was deleted a few years back, it's
    unlikely that a companion CD will see the light of day.
    
    One last point to ponder - a splendid b**tleg exists called
    'ChangesThree' which features a marvellous selection of rare tracks
    from (mainly) Bowie's pre-RCA days.  Now, if they only find a way
    to get that officiallt released.....
    
    Dougie Robb, Ayr, Scotland
1161.10GNUVAX::KARLSONOnly 241 shopping days until Xmas!Thu Apr 28 1988 11:129
    
    Speaking as someone whose bought ChangesOne and not ChangeTwo (I
    have the cassette, not the disc), if they had been available as
    a combination set BEFORE I bought either, I'd have bought the 
    combo rather than opting for only ChangesOne.
    
    But I suppose I'm in the minority ...
    
    								-rjk
1161.11LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, VMS CSSE/EuropeSat Jan 07 1989 17:105
    Are Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane available in the Nashau area?
    
    NO Bowie CD's predating "Let's Dance" are available in the UK.
    
    A
1161.12Can't wait to get old Bowie CD'S!!!XCUSME::MAKARAWICZEagles 17, Bears 13Mon Jan 09 1989 01:138
    re:-1
    
    David Bowie's old record company (EMI/ELECTRA?) has not released
    any old Bowie CD's (predating Let's Dance), for several months,
    due to a pending court case for royalties...AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!
    
                                                    ---RON
1161.13CORRECTIONXCUSME::MAKARAWICZS T A N D...Now face NorthTue Jan 10 1989 01:109
    Oops!  David Bowie's old recording company was RCA, not EMI...EMI
    is his present recording company.
    
    I just heard some good news:  David is in the studio working on
    a new album! 
    
    
                                               r o n.
    
1161.14Whatever happened to the RARITIES double album rumours?AYOV28::DROBBHere at the dude ranch above the seaTue Jan 10 1989 04:3516
    Re. .13, you consider it good news that he's in the studio recording
    a new album?!?  I, for one, hope and pray that it's a whole lot
    better than either of his last two efforts (TONIGHT and NEVER LET
    ME DOWN), both of which I considered to be rather weak, esp. the
    latter.
    
    With regards to the availability of his older (RCA) material on
    CD, presently in the U.K. it is becoming more and more difficult
    to track them down.  Some specialist shops have (some of) them,
    but having realised their 'rarity', are hiking the prices up to
    c.�15 ($27) per title!!  Last I read, negotiations for the rights
    to the RCA back catalogue were at a standstill - although I did
    see Rykodisc's name mentioned somewhere.
    
    Dougie_who_has_over_a_hundred_Bowie_albums_in_his_collection 8-)
                     
1161.15I'm So Glad I'm Living In The USAAQUA::ROSTMarshall rules but Fender controlsTue Jan 10 1989 06:287
    
    Re: .14
    
    $27 ?????  Maybe we can beat our trade deficit by exporting CDs to
    the UK  8^)  8^)  8^)  8^)

    
1161.16Would you pay $33 for ZIGGY on CD??? I would ;=)AYOV28::DROBBHere at the dude ranch above the seaWed Jan 11 1989 03:2112
    Reading through the latest issue of RECORD COLLECTOR magazine
    (incidentally, I'd highly recommend this to any serious music buff),
    I spotted an ad. by a mail-order outfit in England for 'the now-deleted
    ZIGGY STARDUST' for the princely sum of �18 (c.$33)!!!  How I wish
    I'd snapped up a copy of all the early stuff when it was freely
    available - at budget prices too!
    
    Point of consolation - I'm sure I read in another Notesfile that
    most of the RCA titles can still be found in Europe (I think
    Switzerland was sited as a known example), although I don't know
    what the prices are like there.
    
1161.17Never Let Me Down....againXCUSME::MAKARAWICZS T A N D...Now face NorthWed Jan 11 1989 22:4622
    
    I just read in the CD notes of latest issue of Rolling Stone (the
    one with Roy Orbison on the cover) that the 1968 recording of
    "David Bowie" is going to be issued sometime in the next 3 months 
    on CD.  I'm not sure if this is an RCA album (I would assume that
    it isn't).
    
    re .14:
    
    I was one of the few people who enjoyed Bowie's last album, "Never
    Let Me Down."  I'm only 22, so I missed out on most of the music
    that he created in his PRIME (early-mid 70's)...That's why I'm dying
    to get any "early" Bowie recordings that I can...The only "early"
    Bowie recordings that I have are "Low" (on cassette) and "Fame and
    Fashion>>>Greatest Hits" on CD.  I would appreciate any opinions
    pertaining to which David Bowie albums are "favorites," or "the
    best."  I know "...Ziggy Stardust..." must be up there.
    
    						thanks,
    
    							r o n
    
1161.18LESLIE::LESLIEElwood P. Dowd - or possibly HarveyWed Jan 11 1989 23:113
    The old album was on DERAM, a DECCA label.
    
    I recommend "Aladdin Sane".
1161.19Andy, a further recommendation for ALADDIN SANE....AYOV28::DROBBHere at the dude ranch above the seaThu Jan 12 1989 03:3032
    Yes, the DAVID BOWIE disc is indeed a Decca/Deram (London in the
    U.S.?) release, of material recorded between 1966 and 1970.  It's
    just out here in the U.K., and I believe it's a budget-price job.
    However, I'd say that this period of Bowie is an acquired taste,
    so for the time being, I can wholeheartedly recommend the following
    RCA titles (in preferred order) :-
    
    THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS
          
    SCARY MONSTERS AND SUPER CREEPS
    
    HUNKY DORY
    
    STATION TO STATION
    
    ALADDIN SANE
    
    Then of course, there's the LOW/HEROES/LODGER 'trilogy', DIAMOND
    DOGS, PIN UPS, SPACE ODDITY, THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD, and the
    two CHANGES compilations.
    
    If you can find them, I'm sure you'll enjoy - FWIW, I heard yesterday
    that a lot of the RCA stuff is still in the shops Down Under.
                                                                 
    One final point of trivia - one of the first Bowie releases on CD
    anywhere in the world, was in Germany in 1983.  Again, it was a
    Deram compilation of early material, and it was issued in *very*
    limited quantities.  If anyone owns a copy, hang on to it - worth
    around �75 ($135) in collectors circles already, and sure to increase
    in value in the future ;-)
    
    
1161.20Waht's Up With RCA?AQUA::ROSTJazz isn't dead, it just smells funnyThu Jan 12 1989 07:193
    
    What is this business about RCA Bowie material being out of print?
    Last time I checked it was still in the bins in the US.
1161.21Bowie Live - it's great!!!GRANPA::DLEADERDave Leader @EJOThu Jan 12 1989 16:268
    My favorite Bowie is the double live album.  Perhaps it has something
    to do with being recorded in the Tower theatre in Philadelphia (not
    a bad seat in the house).  The vinyl version is very dynamic for
    a live recording - the musician on the sax is Excellent.  I'd buy
    this on CD if it was available.
    
    Dave (from New Jersey - 10 minutes from Philly)
    
1161.22DECWET::THOMASEr, this *is* irrelevant, isn't it?Thu Jan 12 1989 16:424
    Can anyone tell me what album(s) China Girl and Modern Love are
    on?
    
    	Thanks ... Mike
1161.23Let's DanceXCUSME::MAKARAWICZS T A N D...Now face NorthThu Jan 12 1989 22:113
    re: -1                     ^
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1161.24Re. .23 - LET'S DANCE is on EMI America :-)AYOV28::DROBBHere at the dude ranch above the seaTue Jan 17 1989 02:374
    Re. .20, and the non-availability of RCA titles, I was referring
    to the situation as it is in the U.K. at present.  Would any of
    the U.S. noters like to post what titles are 'still in the bins'
    over there, and at what kind of prices?
1161.25Ziggy et al. -- not available?DECSIM::BERRETTINIJim, DTN 225-5671Tue Jan 17 1989 13:256
    I used to see all the Bowie RCA stuff (e.g., Ziggy Stardust, 'Heroes')
    on CD in Boston.  Now, I only see the very early and very recent
    non-RCA stuff on CD.  I think the RCA vinyl is still available here.
    I assumed the RCA CD's were out of print.  Any ideas?
    
    Jim
1161.26Of course they might both be wrong, but...BAGELS::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE/VMSTue Jan 17 1989 21:134
    According to Strawberries and Tower, they will be reissued later
    this year, starting July.
    
    A
1161.27The first purchase will *have* to be ZIGGY....AYOV28::DROBBHere at the dude ranch above the seaWed Jan 18 1989 03:1013
    Andy, does this mean that the supposedly torrid court case (between
    EMI America and RCA???) concerning who had the rights to his back
    catalogue, has been resolved?  Or did Rykodisc's bid for fame and
    fortune succeed? ;-)
    
    Also, does anyone reading this note buy a U.S.-based monthly mag.
    called International CD Exchange (ICE for short)?  I saw an ad.
    for it somewhere over here, and in the latest issue, there's an
    article about a CD b**tleg of previously unheard Bowie material
    from the late 60's!!!  Can anyone tell me anything about this, or
    indeed anything at all about bootleg CD's by Bowie?
    
    Dougie_who's_reportedly_saving_hard_for_a_multi-CD_player 8-)
1161.28CSSE32::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE/VMSWed Jan 18 1989 11:521
    I have no further details.
1161.29Live stuff? RCA have yet to do him justice 8-(AYOV28::DROBBHere at the dude ranch above the seaThu Jan 19 1989 03:4114
    Can anyone in the U.S. please tell me if the following 'live' releases
    were issued on CD over there? :-
    
    DAVID LIVE (RCA - 1974)
    STAGE (RCA - 1978)
    ZIGGY STARDUST _ THE MOTION PICTURE (RCA - 1983)
    
    All three are double albums, so they're more than likely to be double
    discs too.
    
    Also, have any CD singles by Bowie been issued in the States (CD3's
    or otherwise)?
    
    Dougie_who's_hoping_for_some_info._on_the_ICE_mag._mentioned_in_-2
1161.30BOWIE INFO GALOREISLNDS::ROBINSONFri Jan 27 1989 11:2640
    
    Well as far as I know the only of David's live albums issued on
    cd is STAGE (as a double cd) - I own a copy and I think it is
    from w. germany - I am relatively sure that the cd was not released
    in the US.
    
    As far as the availability of the RCA stuff in collector shops you
    can find the titles going for between $30-$50 and I have yet to
    see a copy of Ziggy.  In the New England area I haven't seen a
    new RCA title in a looong time.  Although last month I did pick
    up a used copy of ChangesTwo for a steep $10 (he he).
    
    I haven't seen any bootlegs of Bowie stuff but would exect to see
    a boot of the King Biscut show cds that are currently selling
    at $350 for 2 discs.  I would, however, love to see a boot cd
    of the Slaughter on 24th St. (I think that's the name) - *DEFINATLY*
    the best bowie boot (blows away the '72 show) - and I have at
    least 60 of them.
    
    I would have to agree that the last album wasn't all to good. 
    But I think that TONITE was excellent - very relaxing - great.
    
    The two promo cd eps from the last album are pretty good also.
    
    Finally, Bowie HAS NOT yet signed a deal for hit back catalogue.
    He was talking to EMI (whom I would not like see get the rights
    due to their lousy packaging - see the US kate bush discs) but
    now seems to be talking to Ryko Disc (for a long time) it seems
    that they are talking about doing a release-a-month like the
    Beatles discs and adding EXTRA TRACKS and B-SIDES to the discs -
    that would be incredable - but to the best of my knowledge bowie
    does not have too many unreleased tracks or b-sides - just
    a very few alternative versions (Heroes) and a bunch of his
    songs sung in different languages.
    
    will
    
    
    
    
1161.31|-) MORE Bowie Info. (-:AYOV28::DROBBAngular banjos sound good to meThu Feb 09 1989 08:3551
    - re. -1, Will, I think the b**tleg you are referring to is SLAUGHTER
      IN THE AIR, a double album from the L.A. Forum, April '78.  An
      excellent set indeed, with much more atmosphere/energy than the
      more commonly applauded Santa Monica, Oct. '72 concert.
    
    - as far as I know, the KBFH CDs have not yet been b**tlegged, but
      with the prices as they are, it's only a matter of time....I sure
      wouldn't like to be one of the first to buy a boot thinking it
      was an original :-(
    
    - the battle for the rights to his back catalogue rages on.  Here
      in the U.K. at least, latest reports say that the front-runners
      are Polygram and EMI (incidentally, all future Bowie releases
      for EMI will be on the EMI Manhattan label, as opposed to EMI
      America).
    
    - I learned from a new-ish U.K. Bowie fanzine (ZI DUANG PROVENCE -
      title taken from the first line of the song GLASS SPIDER), that
      Bowie has been considering releasing a (potentially) double album
      of demos and outtakes, including selections from loads of material
      which he recorded with Brian Eno.  
    
    - Will, in -1, you stated that "to the best of my knowledge, Bowie
      does not have too many unreleased tracks".  Well, I don't know
      about Bowie, but I certainly have plenty of material of his in
      this category - here's a sample :-
    
      THAT'S A PROMISE       -      late '60's outtake
      LITTLE TOY SOLDIER     -       "     "      "
      WAITING FOR THE MAN    -       "     "      "
      RIGHT ON MOTHER        -      early '70's   "
      BOMBERS                -       "     "      "
      LONDON BYE-TA-TA       -       "     "      "
      RUPERT THE RILEY       -       "     "      "
      SHADOW MAN             -       "     "      "
      I'VE GOT LIGHTNING     -       "     "      "
      ALL THE YOUNG DUDES    -            1973    "
      YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT     -             "      "
      FROM ME
      TIRED OF MY LIFE       -             "      "
    
      Not bad for starters - there are *plenty* more.  Most of the above
      are of at least VG quality, and indeed some of them are perfect
      studio quality (having been pressed direct from the master tapes
      ;-)  If anyone would like to know any more details concerning this
      unreleased stuff, don't be afraid to ask!!
    
    - one question before I sign off....what are the two promo CD EPs
      mentioned in -1, and what is their price/availability?
    
    Dougie_the_avid_Bowie_collector_of_some_17(gulp!)_years_standing