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1043.0. "Beach Boys CDs?" by DELNI::CORCORAN () Fri Jan 08 1988 07:33

    Has anyone out there seen either the Sunflower or Holland recordings
    on disc? Although they were originally released on Capitol, I vaguely
    remember hearing that some other label may have released them on
    CD. Thanks.
    
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1043.1As far as I know, no Holland yet.FROST::EDSONDFri Jan 08 1988 09:556
    re: .0
    
    I've been waiting for the Holland recording since t=0!  I have not
    seen it yet and I've been looking hard for this one.
    
    Don
1043.2COMET::STEWARTBeep if you BopSun Jan 10 1988 12:3030
    The only Beach Boys LP to be released  on  CD  thus far is California
    Girls.  This was originally released on vinyl as  Summer  Days/Summer
    Nights.    There is one track missing:  I'm Bugged  At  My  Old  Man.
    Though  the release doesn't really miss this track it is historically
    imperfect.
    
    Both  Holland  and  Sunflower  were  originally  released  on  Warner
    Bros./Brother Records.  Warner's  owns the rights.  Since the parting
    of the Beach Boys with  Warner's  was  not a happy one and also since
    Warner's has been exceptionally slow in  releasing their catalogue to
    CD I'm not certain when these two titles will appear on CD.
    
    So  far, the only Beach Boys recordings  out  on  CD  are  the  three
    greatest hits packages from Capitol, two of which contain no material
    from 1968 on.  The third contains many things  that  are on the first
    two plus some stuff from Pet Sounds.  Another release  is from an old
    German  version  of  Surfin'  Safari  that  is  interesting  only  to
    collectors like  myself.    Another is a 'collaboration' release with
    Jan and Dean of early 60's material.
    
    I'm expecting Pet  Sounds  to be released soon but I'm not holding my
    breath.
    
    California Girls can be  found for 10.99.  My favorite track on it is
    Let Him Run Wild, a largely unknown Beach Boy tune that deserves more
    recognition than it ever got.
    
    Overall, the sound quality is not bad, but neither is it great.
    
    =ken 
1043.3COMET::STEWARTBeep if you BopSun Jan 10 1988 12:3726
    Oops!  Guess my memory isn't what it used to be.
    
    The Beach Boys also have a  self  titled  CD  out.    It  is the last
    release  to  date.  Curiously enough, since  it  was  released  after
    Dennis' death, it features a drum machine on  all but one tune.  This
    is curious from the point of view that even  though  Dennis  was  the
    'official'  drummer,  over  the  years he had rarely played drums  on
    their recordings.
    
    This  CD  contains  a  track  not on the record, Male Ego.    It  was
    released  as  the  backside  of  the  single, Getcha Back.  The songs
    Getcha Back  and  California Calling are the only real throw-backs to
    the Beach Boy roots with most everything else being arranged to sound
    like the '80s.
    
    Yes, the vocals are there but the backing tracks contains a different
    sound.  This is due  to  the fact that the Beach Boys did not produce
    this recording.  Steve Levine is  credited  with the production while
    Julian  Lindsay  is  credited with the arrangements.    A  long  time
    relationship with Stevie Wonder is represented here with  I  Do  Love
    You.  Stevie is also featured on the tune playing Drums, Bass, Fender
    Rhodes and Harmonica.
    
    The CD is DDD and sounds very good.
    
    =ken
1043.4Endless SummerVISA::BIJAOUITomorrow Never KnowsMon Jan 11 1988 01:5714
    I got one CD of the Beach Boys titled "Endless Summer"
    
    I has 21 tracks, including "I get aroung, California Girls, Good
    Vibrations" ...
    
    Bought it in England 3-4 months ago.
    
    
    Pierre.
    
    PS:
    BTW, can any one send me the lyrics of the above mentionned songs ?
    I'm french, and would like to know a bit more about what they sing 
    (more than the 75% I can understand). Tnx.
1043.5"Made in the USA"REGENT::POWERSMon Jan 11 1988 09:4425
"Made in the USA" is a 25-track Beach Boys CD with material ranging from 
(almost) the beginning (Surfin' Safari), through the car songs,
the single version of "Be True to Your School", a few from Beach Boys Today
and Summer Days..., up through "Heros and Villains" and ending
with two unreleased tracks, "California Dreamin'" (the Mamas and Papas tune)
and "Rock and Roll to the Rescue."

That's a good cross section, but to a dedicated Beach Boys fan from the '60s
(like me) there's never enough.  Some day I may pop for Summer Days...
and Pet Sounds.  I'd like to find Beach Boys Today (cheap).
That was a great transitional album, from car songs to dance songs leading
up to what became Pet Sounds.  (Fast songs on one side of the record, 
slow songs on the other - a split that loses its effect on CDs).

The Beach Boys (almost) never mastered in true stereo, unfortunately,
since Brian was deaf in one ear.  That detracts from the allure of CD
versions of the material to me.

It's too bad there is so much overlap across their compiled materials.
Capitol always messed up this stuff - there must be two dozen LP versions
of the "Best of the Beach Boys."

well, getting off the track.......

- tom powers]
1043.6Even the Beach Boys did re-recordings !WARNER::ECTORComplaints cheerfully rejectedMon Jan 11 1988 14:2512
    
    
    re. a couple back
    
    If the "Endless Summer" disc is the approximation of the lp of the
    same name, then there are re-records of many of the original hits.
    I recommende the "Made in the USA" compilation, since it contains
    the originals.
    
    				The Cruiser
    
    
1043.7COMET::STEWARTMon Jan 11 1988 17:2848
    The Endless Summer was Capitol's way of cashing in on the Beach
    Boys after they had left the label.  It was released in 1974 and
    contained material from the LPs Surfin' Safari, Surfin' USA,
    Surfer Girl, Shut Down Vol. II, All Summer Long, Beach Boys Today,
    and Summer Days/Summer Nights.  It also contained Good Vibrations.  
    There was no acknowledgement to Pet Sounds, Friends, Wild Honey,
    Smiley Smile or 20/20.
    
    The release came at a time when the Beach Boys were trying to make
    themselves relavant in the early '70s.  The best-of collection sold
    so well that Capitol followed it up the next year with Spirit of
    America.  This LP contained hits from the same group of LPs focusing
    mostly on the earliest releases.  It does however contain a couple
    of tracks that never appeared on an LP, A Young Man Is Gone (an
    a cappella tribute to James Dean), Spirit of America, and The Little
    Girl I Once Knew.
    
    Barbara Ann from the Party LP is included as is Tell Me Why (the
    Beatles tune).  Break Away is the only 'real' post '68 release
    represented on the two best-of collections.  Still nothing from
    Pet Sounds, Friends, or Wild Honey.
    
    The good news is there is no duplication between these two collections.
    However, Made In the USA contains many duplicates from the first
    two collections.  The first 14 tracks are contained on either Endless
    Summer or Spirit of America.  The last 11 tracks are either new
    releases, California Dreamin' and Rock'n'Roll To The Rescue, or
    have not been released on a best-of package thus far.
    
    The good news is that there are four tunes from Pet Sounds, Sloop
    John B., God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline No.  20/20
    is represented by Do It Again, and Smiley Smile is further represented
    by Heroes and Villains.
    
    The wierd thing is that Rock And Roll Music and Come Go With Me were
    originally released by Warner Bros on the MIU LP (mid-to-late 70s);
    Getcha Back was on The Beach Boys released on CBS, and the other
    two seem to be recorded specially for this package on Capitol even
    though the Beach Boys record for CBS now.
    
    What makes this weird?  There is still no representation of Friends
    or Wild Honey.  And, oddly enough, there is no representation of
    Surf's Up, Sunflower, or Holland even though Capitol crossed label
    boundries to create the Made In The USA package.
    
    Oh well....
    
    =ken
1043.8"Pet Sounds" Is Out NowAQUA::ROSTI feel your innuendoMon Jan 18 1988 13:2512
    
    Re: .2
    
    Well, Capitol seems to be making amends for their terrible reissuing
    with the Beatles.
    
    "Pet Sounds" is out on CD, and at budget price!!!!!
    
    For those in New England, this week (1/18-1/23)  Lechmere's has
    it on sale for $8.98.
    
     
1043.9REGENT::POWERSTue Jan 19 1988 06:503
Is "Pet Sounds" one of the ones Carl Wilson re-mixed into stereo
a few years after it came out?  There was a two-record re-release
at some point in the early '70s with "Carl and the Passions"(?).
1043.10DONNER::STEWARTTue Jan 19 1988 09:5031
    re: -.1
    
    Pet Sounds, to my knowledge, was not remixed for Stereo.
    
    It was originaly released in May of '66 as a mono recording
    from Capitol.
    
    Capitol let the Lp fall into relative obscurity releasing a
    best-of collection directly afterwards.
    
    After the Beach Boys left Capitol in the early '70s one of
    the first things that was released on their new label, Warner's,
    was Carl and the Passions/So Tough coupled with Pet Sounds, which
    Warner's had acquired. 
    
    A note on the Lp stated that Pet Sounds, in this release, was
    in mono the way that Brian had mastered it.
    
    Warner's then released Pet Sounds on it's own keeping the original
    cover photo but changing the color scheme.
    
    They never released Carl and the Passions/So Tough on it's own,
    however.
    
    Warner's did not do much better of a job promoting Pet Sounds than
    Capitol did.
    
    I believe that Capitol now owns the rights, again, to Pet Sounds.
    
    =ken
    
1043.11what's the current Beach Boys catalog?REGENT::POWERSMon Jun 13 1988 08:0619
> < Note 1043.8 by AQUA::ROST "I feel your innuendo" >
>                          -< "Pet Sounds" Is Out Now >-
>    Well, Capitol seems to be making amends for their terrible reissuing
>    with the Beatles.
>    
>    "Pet Sounds" is out on CD, and at budget price!!!!!
>    
>    For those in New England, this week (1/18-1/23)  Lechmere's has
>    it on sale for $8.98.
>

What's become of this release?  I saw it advertised at the time,
but Lechmere ran out of stock before I got in.  I haven't seen
it anywhere since.  What I have seen are the three compilations
noted in earlier replies, "Summer Days..." (retitled) and "The Beach Boys."

Has anybody seen anything else, or know of what's supposed to be out?

- tom]
1043.12Made in the USAAYOV29::KIRKPATRICKMon Dec 19 1988 01:2911
    Made in the USA.
    
    On my copy of this CD, the sound of the intro bars to "good vibrations"
    fluctuates. 
    
    There is also another track, can't remember the name, where there
    is a little crackling on the intro. 
    
    Are the flaws on the master, or have I a bad copy ?
    
    Ian K.