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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

994.0. "CD's at your library yet ?" by FRIEZE::MEANEY (JIM) Wed Dec 02 1987 15:22

    Last night I was picking up some books at the Waltham, Mass library
    on Main street and noticed that they have started to loan out CD's.
    
    They are on display in a rack near the front desk and are available
    for a loan of one week.  They also have a list available of their
    CD library, so if you don't see it on the rack, it may be part of
    their collection but out on loan.  
    
    I was wondering if many city and town libraries have started providing
    CD loans as a new service.  If your's hasn't, you may want to suggest
    that they do, and give them the name of a library that does in case
    they want to know how others have set their system up etc..
    
    Any other libraries in Massachusetts doing this ?
    
    
    JPM
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994.1Nashua Public LibraryTOOK::MICHAUDJeff MichaudWed Dec 02 1987 16:173
    Well as it has been said before, the Nashua Public Library has
    been loaning out CD's for a while.  Not quite in MA, just
    comfortable close :-)
994.2Sunnyvale, CA.WCSM::PURMALOh, the thinks you can think!Wed Dec 02 1987 17:0510
        Comfortably far from MA ;-), the Sunnyvale, CA library has been
    loaning out cd's for well over a year now.  They bought 200 CD's
    and started the program as an experiment.  They can be checked out
    for 2 weeks at a time.
    
        I don't think that they've bought any more discs, but they said
    that the experiment was a success.  I hope that means they'll be
    expanding their collection.
    
    ASP
994.3Here in the frozen north we got 'em!NCADC1::PEREZPeople are Hell -- Sartre'Wed Dec 02 1987 20:426
    Chillingly far from MA :^), the Minneapolis, and various surrounding
    county libraries have been lending CDs for at least a year.  They
    have several hundred that are ALWAYS out.  Lots of activity!  Its
    a great way to listen to music that you are interested in.
    
    D
994.4AKOV11::BOYAJIANThe Dread Pirate RobertsWed Dec 02 1987 23:547
    re:.3
    
    Minneapolis far from MA?? Nonsense. It's just down the road.
    Get on I-90, drive for a little while, and hang a right at
    Rochester (Minnesota). :-)
    
    --- jerry
994.5DAT figuresSALEM::MGINGRASNow I try to be amused . . .Thu Dec 03 1987 05:389
    When I asked the music librarian here in Manchester N.H., she told
    me she didn't want to invest her budget in CD's and was instead
    waiting for DAT.
    
    I think it's great that all 3 people in Southern New Hampshire
    who own DAT machines will be able to go the library and borrow
    her tapes.  In the meantime she continues to buy lp's that get pretty
    well shredded by the time the 7th borrower uses them.
    
994.6Sudbury, Mass.REGENT::POWERSThu Dec 03 1987 07:052
Deep in the heart of Massachusetts, Sudbury's Goodnow Library has just started
stocking and lending CDs.
994.7AMUSE::QUIMBYThu Dec 03 1987 10:422
    Acton, Watertown, and Winchester all have (small) collections of
    CDs.
994.8Lexington tooAIAG::BILLMERSMeyer Billmers, AI ApplicationsThu Dec 03 1987 11:301
Lexington's Carey Library has a (so far) small collection.
994.9More Bay Area SamplingsWCSM::ALVIDREZThe State of the ArtieThu Dec 03 1987 12:197
Palo Alto Main Library on Newell Road has some 400+ CDs and they are
constantly expanding.   They seem to have an interesting mix of all
musical styles from Montiverdi to Prince to Sinatra to Patrick O'Hearn.
They loan them out for three weeks.  Their display is on a small wooden
rack near the check-out counter.

AAA
994.10library won't buy any moreROLLY::ILYADISThu Dec 03 1987 14:2825
	The  Nashua NH library, as was said earlier, has a good  collection.
	The problem is that when I asked the girl behind the desk  when they
	would  be  getting  new ones she said basically it would be a while.
	She  did  not know why (she only works there - doesn't make policy).
	I have a few ideas why:
	
	1) They made a large  investement  (400+ cd's) and probably will not
	buy any for a while due to budget constraints.
	
	2) They are concerned about  the  upcoming copyright legislation and
	are holding back.
	
	3) They are waiting for the price to come down (aren't we all!)
	
	Granted the number of  CD's available is overwelming.  There is even
	no motivation to tape them  (tsk,  tsk).  In the days of records you
	had to take out the LP as soon as it came in if you wanted to hear a
	clean version of it.  And if you really liked it, it would have been
	a good idea to tape it, because the  next  time  you  took  it  out,
	yeach!  I've taken Vivaldi's Four Seasons CD out five times over the
	last six months -- and it sounds just as good  each time - why waste
	the tape.
	
	
994.11booklet worth more than the CD itself?ALIEN::MELVINTen zero, eleven zero zero by zero 2Fri Dec 04 1987 13:0211
re: .10

	I heard a rumor that there is an overdue charge (X) for returning
	the CD late and an overdue charge of (3*X) if you return just the
	CD booklet late :-)


	Four Seasons?  Definitely a good choice!  Especially the WINTER
	movement.

-Joe
994.12Sons of Knute Lending Library in Minneso'taWCSM::ECTORThe 8th day God created BeatlesFri Dec 04 1987 13:328
    
    
    re.3  I understand the Sons of Knute, in Lake Wobegon are lending
    	  discs, too. Any truth to this ??  -')
    	
    				The Cruiser
    
    
994.13But the late fines are incredible!NCADC1::PEREZPeople are Hell -- Sartre'Sat Dec 05 1987 22:4714
    re -.1
    
    While I cannot personally attest to the accuracy of the claim that
    the Sons of Knute Lending Library loans out discs, I have also heard
    from other sources that they have the FINEST collection of Scandinavian
    glockenspiel music in the area.  It is supposed to be perfect with
    a dinner of lutefisk and lefsa!  
    
    re -? about Minnesota not being far from the East coast...
    
    If this is true, I shouldn't have any problem scooting out to Colorado
    Springs to get the Amanda McBroom CD I can't find here!
    
    D
994.14MEMORY::SLATERWed Dec 09 1987 15:036
    Where do libraries get their CD's? Are there channels where they
    can get a discount? Is there any inter library CD loan system that
    anybody knows of? Is there any library industry literature about
    stting up CD programs?
    
    Les
994.15List Price at LibrariesCASV01::WRESINSKIFri Dec 11 1987 12:5217
    A couple of years ago I had to pay for an LP (which I placed on
    the Return desk, but since it was a popular album, some slime lifted
    it before the Librarian could get to it.)  They charged me $7.98
    or $8.98.  Outrageous!  I offered to replace it myself because I
    could get it from almost any retailer for less than list price.
    
    As for CDs, my local library has the price -- usually $15.98 or
    $16.98 -- printed on the sticker which includes the Dewey number, 
    title, and artist.  It's difficult for me to believe that public 
    libraries are paying full price, but these stories seem to indicate 
    so.
    
    Why don't they join clubs?  Or I'd be happy to let them use my
    Publisher's Clearing House circulars:-)
    
    
    >R.Michael
994.16AMUSE::QUIMBYWed Dec 16 1987 11:5815
    Re:  .15
    
    Libraries certainly get a discount on their purchases (I had an
    aunt who was a librarian, and she got discounts on her *personal*
    book purchases).
    
    As a matter of policy, though, they probably feel entitled to some
    compensation for the additional aggravation of ordering a replacement
    book or record, putting labels, stamps, and numbers on it, etc.
    
    I would agree that this is fair -- although when someone else ripped
    off the album, it would be annoying.
    
    dq
    
994.17They are there to lend, not to sell....BETHE::LICEA_KANEWed Dec 16 1987 13:497
    
    Libraries also don't want to become a discount music store.  If
    they charged you their price, it would be possible to take out a
    CD, and if you liked it, you could keep it and pay the discount
    price.  Probably less expensive than the used CDs at BCD.
    
    								-mr. bill
994.18Vivat Library CDs!CASV01::WRESINSKIThu Dec 17 1987 10:1513
    Re:.16  libraries charge list for their effort.
    
    Good points.  They are certainly entitled to that compensation.
     I just never accounted for that because the replacement cost was
    so close (as in _identical_) to the catalog list.
    
    Re:.17 ripping off libraries for the cheap price.
    
    Yeah, never thought about that.  But, then, I'm basically an honest
    person and rely on NOTES to expose me to those who can come up with
    schemes like that :-)
    
    >R.Michael
994.19Libraries in central Mass.TALLIS::WADEWed Jan 06 1988 11:016
    Some of the libraries in central Mass now have CDs which circulate
    out of Worcester (each library gets a package for a few weeks, then
    it moves on).  Selection is mostly top 200 classical and equivalent
    pop.  
    
    paul
994.20Marlborough, MALEDS::DEROOTue Aug 30 1988 21:534
    Marlborough Public Library has a small collection of CD's.
    
    JD