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916.0. "Reference guide" by DUB01::OSULLIVAN_D () Tue Oct 06 1987 13:13

    I've seen several referencses to the "Penguin Book" in this notesfile.
    Can anybody tell me if it is a good (the best?) cd guide?  It's
    not cheap.
    
    -Dermot
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916.1CLT::ZEHNGUTTue Oct 06 1987 13:37110
    I don't have first-hand experience with Penguin or any other CD guide,
    but I saw a couple of postings on the usenet recently that recommend
    the Stevenson (sp?) Guide.  The postings follow (reprinted without
    the permission of the authors):
    
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Subject: Re: Choosing classical CDs
Posted: 20 Sep 87 06:55:42 GMT
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Tim Bray ([email protected]) flames the Penguin Compact Disc Guide and
writes (condensed by me for space reasons):
 
> Consider the J. S. Bach repertoire as a concrete example....I am sure that
> most CD and classical music literate readers would gasp, as I did. The Glenn
> Gould (not English) Goldbergs, the Neville Marriner (not dead) Musical
> Offering, and some others spring to mind. Totally omitted from the Guide is
> the wonderful unaccompanied 'cello suites by Janos Starker.
 
I think one of the problems here is the date of the Guide -- were the
performances above available on CD (or, available in England on CD) when the
Guide was released? One thing I noticed about the latest, CD version of the
Guide is that LOTS of stuff on lps got dropped in favor of the CD listings.
Much better than the CD Guide (in my opinion) is the "CompletePenguin Stereo
Record and Cassette Guide (now including Compact Discs)" In this earlier
version of the Guide there is far less coverage of CDs, but much better
coverage of recordings in general (the Marriner MUSICAL OFFERING is rated
number 1, for example, on pp. 31) Get this version if possible, since most of
the stuff is being released in CD versions now anyway. [And yes, you are right
about the general pro-British feel of the Guide. It is still very good,
though.]
 
> 3. Advice
 
Stevenson Compact Disc Review Guide
3330 Acacia Drive
Indianopolis, IN   46214
 
6 consecutive issues (1 year) for $16.00
 
Ever wonder what, say, reviewers in 6 or 8 different magazines had to say
about a performance? Mr. Stevenson must have, and decided to share the results
of his readings in a large (8 1/2" x 11", 192 pages) magazine, which contains
a brief listing of the various CDs available for a particular poece, a precis
of what the critical comments have been, etc. Most Useful! [Also includes Mr.
Stevenson's original reviews as well.] All Classical though (no Jazz, or Pop,
etc.), but if you are interested in Classical CDs, this is one to get.
 
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Subject: Re: Choosing classical CDs
Posted: 20 Sep 87 04:03:18 GMT
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] writes:
> My CD player is a year old now, and my classical library remains small.  I
> find that its growth is severely limited by the `which to buy' issue.  My
> classical tastes are mainstream, with pronounced chamber music, Bach, and
> Mahler bumps.  In a good music store, there often are *many* versions of what
> I want.  I suffer from neither digital nor analogue snobbery.  However, I am
> not interested in buying any more vinyl.
> 
> The answer, obviously, is to consult a good guide to the recorded reportoire.
> The purpose of this posting is threefold:
> 
> 1. To flame the `Penguin Guide to Compact Discs'.
> 2. To mention the `Stereo Review Standard Repertoire on CD'.
> 3. To solicit advice.
 
One source I've found useful is the Stephenson Compact Disc Review Guide,
a now bimonthly index to classical CD-reviews (every other issue
cumulative).  Reviewers rankings are evaluated on a -3 to +3 scale,
so you can tell when a disc has unanimous praise or mixed reviews.
Sometimes brief paraphrases of the reviews are included.
(If you subscribe to the various stereo magazines covered, you can also
go back and read for yourself; almost all significant British and US
magazines are covered.)  The current issue is 192 pages long and concludes
with an ``Honor Roll'' of some 150 cd's with consistently fine reviews.
(Based on those that I've bought from this list, it seems fairly reliable.)
 
An annual subscription is $30 (or just $16 if you only want the three
cumulative issues).  You should ask to start with the current issue, No. 9,
just out.  The address is
 
Stephenson Compact Disc Review Guide
3330 Acacia Drive
Indianapolis, IN 46214
 
As to the Penguin Guide, I agree it's coverage is spotty.  What with all
the recent mid-price reissues of old analogue material, however, I'm
finding that the earlier ``Complete Penguin Stereo Record and Cassette
Guide'' (1984) can occasionally provide insights where no others are
available.
 
David S. Johnson, AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

    
916.2Try Grammaphone magazine.DECSIM::KADKADECum dignitate otiumWed Oct 07 1987 13:4216
	I have a copy of the Peguin Guide and though its usefulness is limited
	by many omissions (perhaps because the recordings were not on CD when 
	the guide was published), it does review (and in my opinion quite 
	fairly) a large number of well-known recordings. I supplement the 
	Penguin guide, with a subscription to Grammaphone magazine, which 
	consists mainly of classical music reviews, in recent years the 
	number of CD reviews far outnumber the cassette and LP reviews. There 
	is one 	problem, however, with both the guide and Grammaphone, in 
	that they review many recordings not yet available stateside. In 
	particular labels like ASV and Hyperion are rarely available,
	Harmonia Mundi (the main exporter of these labels) does a very poor
	job of selecting releases in this country.

	Hope that helps,
	Sudhir
916.3go with what you've liked beforeDECWET::COOMBSWed Oct 07 1987 15:4322
    
    My methods are similar: I have the new Penguin, an old one from
    the mid-70s (covers the budget stuff very well), and pick Grammaphone
    up every moth for the new stuff. I also read a magazine called 
    Fanfare at the library since it provides more in-depth review with
    a greater time lag than Grammaphone.
    
    I read the Stevenson guide which the local record stores have lying
    around for browsers-- I find it tough to decipher and read, and
    out of date on the new releases. Best thing is to go through Schwann
    looking for people you've liked in the past: in my case Pinnock
    and Gardner for Bach, Handel... the Vegh, Lindsay, and Italian Quartets
    for chamber music... Colin Davis, Abbado, Marriner, Guilini, Szell,
    Bohm, or Previn conducting the BSO, Cleveland, Vienna, London, or 
    Concertgebouw, with the Berlin and Karajan as the next likely fallback.
    
    In other words, the guides will get you started, with some clinkers.
    Then what you've liked before in the same general repertoire is
    the best heuristic.
    
       John
                   
916.4Buy itALEX::CONNAlex Conn, ZKOMon Oct 12 1987 15:329
I basically agree with .3.  But the short answer to .0 is, for classical
recordings, the Penguin book is easily the best book of reviews I have
seen.  They have a far better understanding of what makes a great
recording than most of the books or magazines available stateside.  You
will never go wrong with a recording to which they assign a rosette.  
Only if they don't have any good recommendations for a given recording 
do you necessarily have to resort to the heuristics described in .3

Alex