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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

915.0. "VCR AND CD PROBLEM?" by VENOM::WATERS (The Legend of the Lakes) Mon Oct 05 1987 17:02

    Is the beam of light on a CD player harmful to the heads on a VCR?
    I had my CD on top of my VCR and now I'm getting a lot of snow in
    the picture!  It seems to be getting worst instead of better.  Has
    this happened to anyone else? If so, can you suggest I try something
    before I take it to the repair shop?  I had the same problem a couple
    of weeks ago and it cleared up after letting the movie run for 15
    min. or so.
    
    					Thanks for info
    
    					John
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915.1Is it On or Off?MEMV03::SNYDERMon Oct 05 1987 17:175
    
    The only way your CD player should interfere with the VCR is if
    it's turned on, there can be a problem.
    
    Are you having a problem with this with the CD player OFF??
915.2Move it...SRFSUP::GOLDSMITHLos Angeles shakes me up...Mon Oct 05 1987 18:3126
    
    You may have any of the following NORMAL problems:
    
    If your CD player's on:
    
    	o CD CPU and other electronics are creating enough RFI to freak
          out your VCR. This should only freak out the tuner, not a
          playback of a pre-recorded tape. This is a common problem
          with most digital electronics and TV.
                  
    	o The CD power supply is creating enough EMI to play havoc with
          the heads of your VCR. This is very, very rare, but I have
          seen it happen. This will be a problem with TV or tape.
    
    If your CD player is off:
    
    	o As said in .1, the only way it should interfere is if it's
          turned on. BUT, if the power supply stays "HOT", that is 
          it is always on, then it could also cause either of the above
          two problems.
    
    The only economical solution to these problems is to relocate the
    CD player.
    
    							--- Neal
                      
915.3ITS OFF...and I still get snow!VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesTue Oct 06 1987 09:2713
    The CD screws up the picture on the TV when it is ON.  I think the
    problem occured when the CD was on and the kids turned the VCR on
    that sit directly under the CD.  I moved the cd to the other side
    of the TV and put the receiver on top of it....The VCR is alone
    with nothing on top or bottom.  There seems to be little change
    in the snowy picture when the CD is turned on!  Is there anything
    I can try to get the picture clear on the VCR.  I tried cleaning
    the head but that didn't work.  I played with the tracking nob but
    still nothing.
    
    						Thanks,
    
    						John
915.4Also check your house wiringCHIRPA::OUELLETTEOnly half a heart awayTue Oct 06 1987 10:3715
If you can't tell the difference with the CD player off, I think
the problem is in the VCR and/or the  TV.  Maybe  you should ask
in the TV conference (which is on what node??).

You could try positioning aluminum    foil between the   various
components.  Machines with digital components have been known to
broadcast; the foil will help shield some of the components.

My CDP30 broadcasts  (only when it's  powered up) in the FM band
(a   subset of VHF)  and causes   my  reception  of  WFNX become
unacceptable (normally it's  just  marginal).  A friend's  apple
used to play havoc with his  monitor  until he installed a piece
of foil between the two......

R.
915.5Some more thoughts...VIA::SCHLUTERMay The Force Be With Your Every Hack!Tue Oct 06 1987 11:0836
This sounds very strange. I have about 10 components interconnected
in my home audio-visual system. The componnents are fairly close together
and the only thing I have to worry about is to turn the TV set OFF when
I record an audio tape (i.e. with a regular casette player), otherwise
I get a hiss on the tape. I have never had any problems with the VCR
at all. My suggestions for your problem:

    1) Unplug ALL your devices, except the VCR and TV set (any maybe
       your cable box). Record some material on a new tape and play
       it back. Still snow? Clean the VCR heads with a cleaning tape.
       remember, that dry cleaning tape don't work too well. Most
       cleaning tapes require you to drip some cleaning solution into
       the reel. Let this tape run for a while. DO NOT, UNDER ANY
       CIRCUMSTANCES, clean the VCR heads by hand or with a Q-tip. I
       tried this once in desperation and my VCR wasn't too grateful!!!
       The Q-tip method works great for regular tape decks, however.

    2) Still snow? Check a different tape, check your wiring. There might
       be a problem with the coax cable connecting the VCR and the TV. To
       check this, set your VCR TV/VCR switch to VCR, tune the VCR to any
       channel (if you have cable, this is probably channel 3) and tune
       your TV as if you were watching a tape (i.e. channel 3 or 4). Is
       the picture bad? then the problem is either with the cable or with
       the VCR RF modulator. Try using a different coax cable.

    3) If all this fails and regular TV reception is OK (by setting the
       VCR TV/VCR switch to TV), then you should probably take your VCR
       in for repair. Otherwise you should start reconnecting all other
       equipment (one by one) to see which one is causing the interference.
       Once you've isolated it, move it for away from the VCR and if that
       doesn't help, there might be a problem with that piece of equipment,
       requiring repair.

Good Luck,

Joe
915.6VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesWed Oct 07 1987 11:589
    Maybe it was something in the plug..I'll never know.  I went home
    last night and before I viewed the tape..I unplugged everythng.
    When I pluged it back in the VCR worked fine...I don't know what
    to make of it.  I'm going to run a heavy duty extension cord to
    another socket and plau the CD into that one.
    Thanks for all the suggestions...Something worked..I just don't
    know what???
    
    					John
915.7A little float?SRFSUP::GOLDSMITHLos Angeles shakes me up...Wed Oct 07 1987 13:297
    
    Ah!, Ground Problem!
    
    Sounds like you have a grounding problem to me. If it comes back,
    ground the chassis of your equipment to each other.
    
    						--- Neal
915.8TAKE TWO ASPIRIN AND CALL ME IN THE MORNINGVLS8::GOODWed Oct 07 1987 23:152
    	It sounds like the plug was wrong polarity and got reversed
    when it was unplugged.