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    Will the "White Album" be released as a double cd for mucho $$ or
    will it fit on one cd?
    
    _stew-

    
    I heard Aug. 25 for a release date. 

RE:  .1.  I recently timed the complete "White Album"; it comes to over 75
minutes if you allow for some (small) amount of time between selections.  That
would seem to make it impossible to get the whole thing on one CD.  (Although
if they eliminated "Revolution #9" from the remastering I have to admit I
wouldn't be too depressed...)

				--Q (Dick Wagman)

    re:.3, .1
     Yep, looks like two CDs, probably in a double-cd jewel box.  I
    also heard Aug. 25th, so that's probably it.  Yellow Sub. is coming
    out around the same time, but that will probably be the first of
    the CDs that I won't buy right away, with the whole second side
    being instrumentals.  'Hey Bulldog' is great, though.  This one
    should have impressive sound quality, I'm hoping.
    
    	Steve

    Rockit Records in Nashua has Aug 25 down as the date for both
    YELLOW SUBMARINE and the White Album.
    
    --- jerry

It is unfortunate that the one Beatles album that was done under pressure will 
get released on CD.  Well, actually, "A Collection of Oldies" was put out to 
pacify fans who had come to expect a new album every Christmas, and THAT 
mistake didn't get repeated on CD.  Still, Yellow Submarine has a neat cover 
even if the album is nonrepresentative of the movie and too much of a 
hodgepodge of different periods of the group's development to hold together as 
an album side.  I don't plan to buy it, however.  I'm going to wait and see if 
they're kind enough to the fans to take the A-side material (minus the theme 
song, which appeared on "Revolver") and integrate it with the other rarities, 
45's and EP's in their compilation that's supposed to come out later in the 
year (in time for Christmas).  It will also be interesting to see whether they 
eventually release EVERYTHING on CD, including "Love Songs", just to make more 
money.  Rock 'n Mania is of the impression that the White Album will cost MORE 
than two normal CD's, to take advantage of its cult popularity as the "best" 
Beatles album.


				Mark

    Hmmmm. just wondering and it doesn't make any difference to me but,
    wasn't "Magical Mystery Tour" supposed to come out before the "White
    Album" ?  I mean if you want to get technical about it and keep
    the releases in chronilogical order... Or, are the releases only
    what the British saw for releases and not the US ? And then what
    does that mean about the "Hey Jude" album of 'b' sides and whatever?
    And then there is the "Christmas Fan Club Messages" album....
    
    -TB

    re:.6
    MORE than a double-cd costs?  Unfortunately, it's too much in demand
    for consumers to boycott it.  For that price, they had better have
    some decent packaging, unlike the first 7 discs.
    
    re:.7
    Yes, they're going by the original British album releases.  Magical
    Mystery Tour was a set of 2 ep's in Britain, and Hey Jude never
    was released except as a single.  I'm glad to hear that Capitol
    is thinking of releasing a collection of singles and stuff not on
    the albums.
    I think we're lapsing into a generic Beatle's CD discussion, like
    in the original note.....
    
    	Steve

    I've got an idea that would make (maybe) the white album worth the
    price of a double cd set.  Why don't they include the gibberish
    found at the end of "Blackbird" that when played backwards is supposed
    to say, "Paul is dead now, miss him, miss him, miss him..." and
    "Number Nine" ("Turn me on dead man") and put those on the tail
    end of #2 cd backwards so we all can hear!  They could run out the
    cd that way!
    
    _stew-

    Actually, I read a joke some time ago suggesting they make
    CD players that would play tracks backwards so we could
    easily listen to all this "backwards masking" supposedly in
    the music (including the theme from "Mr. Ed"!)  Might make some
    sense out of Revolution #9!
    
    				Steve

    Anybody know the expected release date for the White Album in the
    UK?
    
    wrh
    

    
    ok i'll bite what was supposed to be in the theme from Mr. ed?
    What about starting a whole topic covering hidden messages?
    -j
    

    I In NY the DJs have started playing the white album.  No mention
    of whether it's a double or a single, but they did say that instead
    of the usual lack band on the side of the jewel case, this one is
    white (nice touch!).  Exerpts from the album over the radio sounded
    terrific.  The remastering seems to of caused a much rawer sound.
    Paul's bass and Ringo's drums seem much more intense than I remember
    on the album, even on a song like Dear Prudence!  It's really something
    to look forward to!  By the way, in NY they're announce release
    for next monday (24th)
    
    Debbie
                          

    Charles was playing cuts from the White Album this morning on WBCN.

    Re: .12
    
    Supposedly the Mr. Ed theme contained "someone sung this song
    for Satan".  It's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of,
    though the guy who wrote the song was thrilled, as he got
    royalties every time a radio station played it during this latest
    craze.
    
    When I was in college, I played Revolution #9 backwards on a tape
    deck, and couldn't hear anything specific.  The great thing about
    the human mind is that it can hear (and see) familiar patterns
    where no patterns really exist.
    
    					Steve

    Re/ stuff encoded backwards:
    
    On the original Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention "We're
    Only In It For The Money" album, the liner note made reference to
    a verse that had been censored from the song "We Are The Other People,"
    but which was hidden backwards on the other side of the album. 
    Sure enough, it was there.
    
    On the cd re-release, the verse has been restored to it's rightful,
    forward place in the song.

    Re: .13
    
    When I bought the White Album, I ended up buying a German
    pressing and was very suprised when I got home and opened
    it up.  It was pressed on White vinal!
    
    Too bad they didn't make the top of the CD(s) itself
    white (or did they).
    
    	6 more days....

         Back in 1968 when Paul was rumoured to have been killed in
    a car crash in 1966 and a Canadian was to have taken his place,
    My uncle sent me some tapes from Hawaii. The station was playing
    some of the Beatles songs backwards. My uncle taped them for me.
    I played Revolution number 9 numerous times. There is no doubt that
    the Beatles were playing games with us. I'm pretty sure it was John.
    They definitely backward masked a car crash and flames burning and
    a bunch of other things. After I'm so Tired there is backward masking
    of John saying Paul is dead now miss him, miss him, miss him. There
    is a whole lot of other clues. It started with Sgt Pepper all the
    way to Abbey Road. I was taken in then but I think it was kind of
    neat now. 
    
          I know this doesn't belong here but here goes anyway. Just
    as I thought the hidden messages of the Beatles was ingenious. I
    thought Stairway To Heaven backwards masking is not. I've definitely
    heard 7 different satanic messages while playing the song backwards.
    I know for a fact Jimmy Page is into black magic which is fine for
    him but I don't want to be subjected to it. If a recording artist
    wants to sing about satan then let him do it up front not inserting
    backwards messages to try and trick their fans. I think playing
    games is fine but let's not get carried away. 
    
                                                  Rich
    
    

    re .18
    
    well, don't play it backwards and you won't have to 'be subjected
    to it'

Okay I'll bite.  What sort of messages?  Page has certainly taken the rap
for a lot of things (Plant's son dying of some unknown diesease, Bonham
drinking himself to death, living in Aleistar Crowley's house - a known
satanic figure) but...

I always thought backwards messages (ie Mr Ed) were people looking for
something where nothing existed.

					Tim

  
    ...the White album *is* a double CD.  It's in an all-white jewel
    box and comes with a natty little booklet (the contents of which
    are unknown to me since I don't have the CDs, but Tower Records
    in London placed an advertisement for it in this month's Q-mag.
                      
    	     				Ian!	

       I'm a great fan of Led Zepplin and have all their discs. I could
    care less that Page used backwards masking. Like someone said who
    plays records backwards except if they are looking for something.
    I was just stating that the satanic messages where there. Just like
    Lennon backward masked on the white album. I thought it was ingenious.
    I still think Page to be a great guitarist but does he sit there
    every night thinking everytime stairway to heaven is played his
    satanic messages are being unknowingly heard. Messages which say
    Satan is God and 666. Personally I think the guy is an idiot but
    I still enjoy his music. Someday he'll have to answer and it won't
    be one of his fans that's for sure.
    
            Oh by the way I can't wait to play the White Album. I just
    hope they give some kind of discount and don't stick us for 32 bucks.
      
                                               Rich!

    RE .22   About getting stuck ($) for the White Album.
    
    I checked with my local store, Atlanta CD.  They will be selling
    the White Album for $24.95 and Yellow Submarine for $12.95.  This
    is for the first week.  Then the price goes back to $29 and $15.
    
    Also...  a slight change of topic.
    
    They had a release date of Sept 22 for Magical Mystery Tour.  I
    asked if this was legit, and they said it is correct.  They just
    got the information for distributor.  Maybe this means we will see
    Hey Jude this year.
    
    Dale

    
    
      Shouldn't it be called The White CD now?
    
      Just a thought
    
                                            Mike Z.

    re:.24
    
    Why should it? "Album" to me refers to the "software package",
    not the hardware package, thus, it is not synonymous with "LP"
    or "record".
    
    re: MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR
    
    Maybe they decided to release the American version of MMT after
    all. Good, if true, since I like that album as it stands.
    
    --- jerry

    
    Is not the correct title simple "The Beatles"
    
    DFW

    It was the public who originally came up with the name "White Album",
    not the Beatles.  But I'm glad they did, its less confusing that
    having to say "The Beatles" album.  The Beatles themselves often
    reffered to it as "The double album", as it was their only double
    one.
    
    	Steve

Expect competition the week the White Album comes out.  If you don't buy it 
that week, you might as well forget about a discount in the future.

I espect MMT will be the British EP.  If not, hopefully they'll use the long 
version of Penny Lane (available only on German pressings, of which I have a 
copy) and the true stereo of "Baby, You're a Rich Man", as well as the longer 
version of "All You Need Is Love".


				Mark

    I had rented some video tape about the beatles at one
    time.  They said that the album "The Beatles" (ie.
    White Album) was a pretty ironic name for it, since
    it was the one album where it really wasn't "The Beatles"
    as one.  It is their own individuals that show up on
    this album.  I'm not sure, but I think each of the
    four had their own side on the album.
    
    Any one have anymore light on this one?

    While it's true The Beatles were no longer a band as they had been,
    but rather acted as session-men for each other, it would be wrong
    to say each of them got 1 side (or the time equivalent) of the album.
    George and Ringo inevitably got the short end of the stick.
    
    Edd

    
    Of all their albums, the White Album is the least of a group effort.
    On different occasions, different members walked out calling it quits,
    only to return in the next few days.  Someone mentioned earlier that
    when one member had a song, the other three acted merely as session
    men.  Actually, that's probably only true for Ringo, and maybe John.
    As for Paul, I'm pretty sure that he was his own session man. 
    
    What I like most about the album is that each member (John and Paul in
    particular) was able to work outside the confines of the group. John
    didn't have to make his songs fit with Paul's and vice versa. The
    result is an album of songs, each different, which truly reflects each
    member, and yet the flow of the album is incredibly smooth.  It's
    as if they've allowed us to see the group as a whole, by examining
    the individuals.
    
    I can't wait for next week's release.  My only question now is:
    
    
    			Abbey Road???
                                                    

         I think the movie Jeff is refering to is the Compleat Beatles.
    The movie also stated that the Beatles decided to go back to the
    group formula with their great vocal harmonies on Abbey Road. I
    think they knew they were heading for a split and wanted to go out
    with a strong group effort. I read someplace that Paul used to play
    a lot of drums on different Beatles songs. I think A Day in the
    Life and Sgt Pepper were two of them. Also I read that Ballard of
    John and Yoko was Paul and John playing all the instruments. Even
    though the White Album was not a real group effort it is truely
    an incredible album containing I think 30 songs. Excluding Revolution
    #9 (which I think was Yoko's contribution) I think every song was
    great and different in some ways from anything they had recorded
    before. I can't wait to play the White Disc.
                                                  Rich
    

        Re: .31
        
>    			Abbey Road???
        
        According to a list of release dates I got ages ago (but
        has been accurate so far), Abbey Road and Let It Be are
        scheduled to be release on CD in October 1987.
        
        					B.J.

    I was just in Harvard Sq. today, and some record store had
    a hand-made sign in the window saying the 25th for the
    White Album, and a price of $22.99  I hope that will be
    the average price for week 1 of the release.

    Asked a friend to pick it up at a large record store in Oxford
    (England) today. She says its labelled "Special Edition" and is
    very big!? (She knows what an ordinary double jewel box looks like).
    Its should be big for 24.95 PDS! (37 DLRS). Be interesting to see
    what the packaging is actually like.
    
    wrh

    
    An ad from Lechmere's in this morning's Boston Globe....
    
    Sale price for the White CD is $21.98, regular price will be $24.98.
    
    Also "Yellow Submarine" and all other Beatles on sale for $11.98.
    
    Probably till Saturday.
    
    I expect some reviews tomorrow!!!!!!
    
    

    RE: .35
    
    It turns out that HMV in the UK are doing a "limited edition" version
    of the White Album that comes in a 12" square x 1" box with a 12 page
    booklet (12" square) with some history of the recording of the album
    (haven't read it yet). This is in addition to the double jewel box and
    booklet that are contained inside. PLUS (and I could hardly believe my
    good fortune), a THE BEATLES badge!!! (I wonder what they imagine the
    average age of the purchasers of this stuff to be?). 
    
    Yellow Submarine was also out in the UK yesterday, with the guy
    in the shop reporting that someone went into one of the HMV London
    stores and bought 19,000 PDS worth (45,000 DLRS!). It would be a
    shame if it didn't turn out to be a collectors item!
    
    wrh

    I got IT!  Stopped by Lechmere this morning on my way to work
    and I bought it for $21.98 (regular price is $24.99).
    
    Before I went to Lechmere I called both Lechmere and Strawberries.
    Strawberries wanted $25.?? (no sales price available).  Both
    were Nashua Stores.
    
    I was a little surprised to find out that it is two seperate
    jewel boxes.  When people in this topic kept saying a double
    jewel box, I thought they ment one double sized box (like
    for Billy Joel's Greatest Hits).
    
    The pull out on disc #1 has a number printed on it (my number
    is 309002).  Does anyone else have a different number?
    
    The jewel boxes are White, as are the side of the cd's
    where the printing is on (the lettering is black).
    
    It doesn't say whether it is AAD or ADD as far as I can see.
    
    The booklet with disc #1 has the lryics for all the songs, as
    well as some very weird pictures.  The small poster sized
    pictures (4 of them, one of each of the beatles) that came
    with the LP are only pictures in the booklet.
    
    I can't wait to get home and play it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RE:< Note 861.38 by TOOK::MICHAUD "Jeff Michaud" >
                              -< Two Jewel Cases >-

>    The pull out on disc #1 has a number printed on it (my number
>    is 309002).  Does anyone else have a different number?

Got mine at lunch today too.  I'm working from home now and
listening to it as I write this.  Sounds great!  My number is
285610.  The most impressionable song I've heard so far is "Dear
Prudence".  "Glass Onion" sounds excellent as well.  Back to the
CD...

Dale

    
    Re: .38, .39
    
    Oh, a limited run of *1 million* copies......   :-)

    
    Just got mine, I'm glad they are in two boxs! So far, what I've
    heard sounds great. I got #79454...
    
    						--- Neal

    Okay, I admit it.  I didn't buy Yellow Submarine for the
    Beatles songs.  I bought it for the George Martin stuff.
    The Beatles songs, as a matter of fact, were never on my
    hit parade, however, I have always been fond of the George 
    Martin material.  I always thought it was nice that he got
    a side of an album to show off.
    
    The sound of the orchestra is wonderful.  The arrangements 
    are lush and conjure images of the animation.  BTW, the
    home version video of Yellow Submarine is due for release 
    very soon.
    
    
        re: .38
    
    the 'wierd pictures' are from the poster originally issued
    with the LP that had the lyrics on the other side.  All they've
    done is pare it down into smaller sections. 
    
    I get the impression that it is AAD given the amount of hiss
    at the opening of Martha My Dear (the first song I wanted to
    hear).
    
    I wish they had split the one book into two.  
    
    #397696

    If I recall correctly, the original pressing of the LP was
    numbered as well. I was surprised and pleased to see that
    they did the same thing with the CD. And the white jewel-box
    inserts were striking!
    
    Oddly enough, BCD did *not* have them in this morning; their
    sign said the 26th! Newbury Comics hadn't gotten them into
    the store as of about noon, either, though the guy said they
    expected them in later in the afternoon. Strawberries had it
    for $25.99, Discount Records for $22.99, and the Coop for
    $21.98 (and YELLOW SUBMARINE was $12.99).
    
    Sounds great.
    
    --- jerry

    In Colorado Springs, Disc Jockey and Musicland have it for $22.99,
    Independent is selling it for $21.88, and Sound Warehouse is asking
    a whopping $25.99.
    
    I'm impressed with the sound and the packaging.

    
    Got mine at Lechmere in Framingham...the last one in the bins!!!
    It's too bad they didn't include wallet-sized pictures of the Fab
    Four, instead of copying them into the booklet.  For 11.99 I had
    to get Yellow Submarine (It's All Too Much is worth the price of
    admission), but I was disappointed to find that they did not include
    the art and story found on the back of the Lp; there were, however,
    liner notes by Derek Taylor.  But, hey, as long as the music sounds
    good...

"Yellow Submarine" was packaged slightly differently in the U.K. than in the 
U.S., and I didn't notice any differences between the insert and the jacket 
for the vinyl.

I have not listened to "The Beatles" yet, nor do I know my number.  I bought 
the original when it first came out, but sold it many years ago when I bought 
the imports.  Since this was the one import I never found new, I have never had 
a good copy as mine was scratchy (still superior to the U.S. pressing, 
though!).  I am PARTTICULARLY looking forward to hearing "Birthday", and of 
perhaps being able to make out more of what's going on in "Revolution 9".

As for "Yellow Submarine", I decided for $11.98 that it was worth it, even 
though the album wasn't done (originally) the way it should have been, as a 
true soundtrack movie.  I will have to say that, thus far, this album has 
impressed me the most of any!  The clarity on "All Together Now" gives that 
song an entirely new meaning (I used to think it was hunky-dorey, but now I 
see it as a highly accurate period tribute), and "Only a Northern Song" seems 
more clearly to have come out of the "Revolver" mold than before.  This, due to 
McCartney's bass playing and Ringo's subtle percussion work.  These two songs 
sound completely different to me now.

I was disappointed in "Hey Bulldog", which sounded identical to the U.K. vinyl 
(which is great, but I was hoping for new insights) and ESPECIALLY "It's All 
Too Much".  The latter is a piece I never cared much for until recently, and 
only then after hearing pre-Steve Perry Journey's rendition.  On this disc, 
McCartney's drone bass line is so boomy in tonal quality and so dark sounding 
that this piece loses all its warmth (Harrison's vocals also sound deadpan on 
this particular number, whereas one would expect more emotion).  It DOES sound 
different from the vinyl, but sounds worse to my ears.

The big surprise was "All You Need Is Love " (I'm ignoring "Yellow Submarine", 
which I did not listen to to verify that it was the same mix as on "Revolver").
This song drove me crazy last night, but perhaps it was meant to!  The beat is 
all over the place!  Actually, there was a consistency to it, and I think it 
was intentional, to give it a drugged-out sound.  I never noticed this before, 
but haven't listened to it in awhile since I don't like the song (funny, since 
it was one of my early favourites).  McCartney seems to be playing slightly 
behind the beat, consistently, but then gets ahead of the beat on the cadences.
This gives the entire piece a sound of rushing, like a sloppy high school band.

I'm almost embarassed to admit it, but George Martin's score was a lot better 
than I remembered, and was actually quite enjoyable except for that ridiculous 
"theme and variations" treatment of "Yellow Submarine" at the end.  This music 
sounded great on CD, very natural and very much benefitted by the high S/N.

I still maintain that much of jazz is hurt by CD technology, but it is becoming 
clear to me that much of music that is dependent mostly on mid-range for its 
effect is FAR superior on CD, particularly in terms of vocals and orchestral 
instruments.

I did not notice whether either CD was AAD or ADD, or whether it was even 
marked as to which it was.


				Mark

    I think the U.K. releases of many of these discs have had fancier
    packaging than the U.S. ones.  I know the first four Beatles' cds
    were available together in a 12" square box (BCD had a copy). Also,
    "Sgt. Pepper's ..." came in a cardboard slipcover.  It doesn's surprise
    me that they should have fancied up the "The Beatles" album as well.
    Personally, I prefer they single jewel boxes, since they fit in
    my Add-'n'-Stack drawers, but it would be fun to see the other
    packaging.
    
    -pd

    I can't find a number on my DISC 1 booklet?  Where is it printed?  Have
    I gotten one of the second two million or what?  The DISC 1 booklet has
    all of the words and pictures that I remember from the poster
    distributed along with the 4 8x10s that were in the LP release. 
    
    I also have scratched the white paint on DISC 2 (it still plays fine
    though).  The book for DISC 2 is a little slim isn't it?  
    
    re .-1: I too prefer the two-single-jewel-boxes package - it fits into
    everyone's CD racks easier. 
    
    GAS
    

RE:< Note 861.48 by VINO::GSCOTT "Greg Scott" >
                         -< Do I have a numbered set? >-

>    I can't find a number on my DISC 1 booklet?  Where is it
>    printed?

Mine is printed just below the title "The Beatles", with a black
stamp it looks like.

Dale

    	Since I've only ownedone copy of the "White Album" since the
    early (a red vinyl Japanese import) and it got MUCH playing on
    every type of stereo imaginable, I was quite excited about getting
    this disc.  Although I believe it could have been cleaned up more
    listening brings back many memories.  It's a little odd to listen
    to  double tracking of voices, instrument placings, etc., considering
    what the group was going through at that time.  BTW, if you haven't
    listened to the disc or the lp REAL carefully, plunk on your headphones
    and listen to the bass on the song "I Will" it's great ;-)
    	So, now I go back into my music room and put on "Yellow Submarine"
    which is being traded to me for an early Beach Boys import by =ken=
    who is more of a Beach Boys fan than Beatles fan and bought it for
    me anyway, but still really likes the Beatles.
    
    n disc #3942584258  I also own the lp No. A025869
    
    _stew-

    	Re: My Last
    	
    	Typing from home tonight and the system is retyping for me...
    badly!  Anyway that's disc #394258 and the lp # is correct.
    
    _stew-

        re .45 and "Got mine at Lechmere in Framingham...the last
        one in the bins!!!" - I just got it from Lechmere in Woburn,
        and they had millions...well, maybe several hundred out
        on the floor.
        
Jim Stratton
        

    I'm listening right now - it's been a long time since I've
    heard some of these - and now I can figure out the words to
    Savoy Truffle!  Wunnerful!
    					Steve

    I got mine yesterday (# 370721) and haven't yet heard it all, but
    what I've listened to sounds very good.  I checked a couple of places
    here in Rochester and the going price seems to be $23.98.

No serial number on mine either. (bought at Lechmere in Framingham)
I was disappointed, I thought they must have left that feature off
until I read  these notes yesterday.  I went home to look for it, and sure
enough, it's not there.

Who is that bass on "I Will"?

- tom] (white album vinyl serial number A2311871)

PS: From yesterday's Boston Globe (over the wire from the Baltimore Sun)
the dates for the upcoming Beatles CDs:  
              Magical Mystery Tour, 26 September
              Abbey Road and Let It Be, 20 October

    RE: .53
    	Interesting thing about "Savvoy Truffle"  This song is about
    Eric Clapton (according to George Harrison's book, "I ME, MINE")
    and his addiction to candy, particularily chocolates.  Hence the
    line, "you'll have to have them all pulled out after the Savvoy
    Truffles."  I guess Eric has/had very rotten teeth because of this
    addiction.  The book even had a picture of the box of candy that
    the song came from and sure enough, they're all there!
    
    Re: .55
    	That's Paul "playing" bass.
    
    _stew-

    Got mine on Tuesday at PooBah Records in Pasadena, CA for $21.94.
    
    I'm surprised at the wide range of serial numbers, and the fact
    that some don't seem to have serial numbers at all.  Anyone know
    anything about the serial numbers?  Why is mine so low compared
    to others - does it have something to do with being so close to
    Capitol?  Why do others not have a number at all?
    
    -Bob

    re .57: Everyone who has one of the non-serial-numbered sets got
    it at Lechmere in Flamingham.  Maybe they got a "special" run? 
    Did anyone else get a non-serial-numbered set not at Lechmere
    Flamingham?
    
    GAS

    re .58: like I said earlier, I got mine at Lechmere in Framingham
    on Wed. night just before they closed.  It was the last one in the
    bins but it has a serial number.

    re. .58

    I got my un-numbered set at the Framingham Lechmere. In my opinion
    the un-numbered ones will be the real collector's items. :-)

    
    Bob!, you got me by close to 10,000. Rats!, that's what I get for
    buying in Orange County... :-)
                              
    The first n hundred thousand were numbered, the rest will not be.
    Just a little bounus for those who bought them first.
    
    Anyone notice the "The Beatles" on the front of the package is slanted
    just like the album was?
    
    							--- Neal

Re .38:

>    I was a little surprised to find out that it is two seperate
>    jewel boxes.  When people in this topic kept saying a double
>    jewel box, I thought they ment one double sized box (like
>    for Billy Joel's Greatest Hits).
	
	I couldn't  resist anymore, so I got my copy today. However, here in
	Sweden  the two discs come in a double jewel box just like the above
	mentioned Billy Joel album. It also seems the number runs lower here
	as  well.  My copy has #61885. The price however, leaves a lot to be
	desired. A quick conversion makes it come out to about $40!
	
	- GL -
    

    Re: .38, 62
    
    In the US (it seems) the double jewel boxes are a pain because they
    don't fit the standard 2 foot x 4 foot anti-theft cartons! Elsewhere
    (in Europe at least) double jewel boxes are quite common - especially
    for classical music. (I've got a Bach collection of 4 CDs in one
    "double" box - mind you, the book is separate). Also I think that
    the serial numbers are a bit lower (where were the US CDs actually
    manufactured, by the way?), mine is in the 20,000s.
    
    Most CD storage systems in Europe come in single and double versions
    so that its no problem from that point of view.
    
    wrh
    

My Genesis discs are European.  I don't like that format, as its less 
flexible, the direction of lettering on the spine reverses for the second 
disc, and the second disc is on bottom instead of top (or on the left instead 
of on the right).

My White Album has no number, and was bought at Lechmere in Framingham.  The 
book is also damaged as thet tried too hard to squeeze it into the case.

I listened to side one last night.  Sounded completely identical to the 
British import vinyl.  Maybe, as with Sgt. Pepper, the way this album was 
produced left little room to manoeuvre in terms of remixing.

Not that there was a need for remixing on this album, for the most part.


				Mark

    For those who like to miss the rush...
    
    I bought THE WHITE ALBUM this past Saturday at Lechmere, Framingham.
    Not only was it stamped, but the rather friendly clerk charged me
    just $19.95, to boot!  She knew what she was doing, so I didn't
    get any pangs of guilt by being charged $2 less than the sale price.
    Anyway, if you want a stamped copy, they seem to have tons.  Must
    have received their second shipment over the weekend.
    
    BTW, someone mentioned the originality of the CDs 'The Beatles'
    grey stamp on the front cover.  I have two copies of the album version,
    one is grey stamp as suggested is original; the other is white relief.
    Anyone know anything more about this?
    
    Dan

    The original was stamped into the cover with no colouring, just
    "THE BEATLES" in relief.

    
    My understanding was USA = Grey Stamp, UK = Relief.
    
    My old US copy is Grey, my newer German DMM copy is relief.
    
    							--- Neal
    

    
    
    All original issues of The Beatles had the name in relief, uncoloured,
    then a dot followed by the sequence #, somewhere in the lower right
    quadrant of the jacket. If your old U.S. numbered copy has grey
    relief, then you had it stacked next to a cheap back cover of another
    album. I've seen South American, European and Asian issues from
    the original issue set and even though the records differed in vinyl,
    labels, etc., the jackets were standard.
    
    The discs are still going for $22.99 at the Tower chain in Calif.
    The Yellow Sub discs for 12.99.
    
    
    				The Cruiser

I bought the U.S. album the day it came out.  "The Beatles" was in relief, no 
colouring.

The CD has different shades of grey for volumes one and two.  Did anybody else 
notice this?


				Mark

RE:< Note 861.69 by REGENT::SCHMIEDER >

>The CD has different shades of grey for volumes one and two.  Did anybody else 
>notice this?


Mine too.

Dale

    Sofar the Beatles CD's released have been numbered in sequence,
    but for the "White Album" and Yellow Submarine they have skiped
    one. Any reason for this, are they holding something back?
    
    Svein.
    

    Re: .-1

    Wasn't the ``Magical Mystery Tour'' EP released *before* ``Yellow
    Submarine?''  That may be the CD (due out Sept. 22) with the missing
    number.  That is, I think the numbers are in chronological order with
    respect to the original release dates of the vinyl.

    John

        My CDs are numbered:
        
        	The Beatles Disc 1	CDP 7 46443 2
        	The Beatles Disc 2	CDP 7 46444 2
        	Yellow Submarine	CDP 7 46445 2
        
        JimB.

    So thats why, my copy of the White Album came in a double box and
    had the number CDP 7 46443 8, and Yellow Submarine CDP 7 46445 2.
    Did not think it was normal to have separate numbers for each disc
    in a double album. Anyway thanks for replies.
    
    Svein.
    

    I picked up a copy of the UK release of the White Album.  It came
    in a double box, not the 2 boxes as in the US release.  It also
    has a glossy booklet made of thicker paper than the booklet from
    the US release.  I got #3421.  Are these numbers part of the 1 million
    released or does the UK have its own numbering system?
    
    Debbie
    

    	I went to a Beatlefest in Denver over the weekend and noticed
    a dealer selling 2 different boxed sets of cds.  These were the size
    of a large lp anthology but the first was marked "The Beatles On
    CD"  and the second was obviously "The Beatles" being in a white
    box with the Beatles embossed on the front.  I didn't get a chance
    to price them or find out what they were, I believe these are British
    imports (did I read this in a previous note?) but don't know why
    the big boxes...anyone know?
    
    _stew-

    I also thought that the "missing number" was being "held" for
    MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR, but then I noticed it on the second disc.
    
    re:.76
    
    I don't know about the White Album, but the first four Beatles
    albums on CD were also available in the UK all together in an
    LP-sized box, as a limited edition, presumably with some other
    goodies. BCD had at least one copy of this (they may still have
    it), but I don't know what they're asking for it.
    
    --- jerry

    RE: .76
    
    See .36 about the HMV box for THE BEATLES.
    
    wrh

    
    
    Just in case anyone fell asleep reading through this file, here's
    the score up to now:
    
    NODE::USER			DISC #			ALBUM #
    
    TOOK::MICHAUD		309002
    COOKIE::CHAVEZ		285610
    SRFSUP::GOLDSMITH		079454
    PRANCR::STEWART		397696
    AV0V68::BOYAJIAN		162832
    CSC32::J_PARSONS		220551
    ROLL::KRAKAUER		313376
    PRANCR::LEVETT		394258			A025869
    EXIT26::STRATTON		368176
    QUARK::LIONEL		312771
    USR0V1::THOMPSONP		370721
    REGENT::POWERS					A2311871
    SRFSUP::LONGO		069315
    STKHLM::LIDEN		061885   (Sweden)
    BMT::SAUR			003421   (U.K.)
    WCSM::ECTOR (ME)		100249			0726631
    
    Looks like the 2 Southern Californians have the lowest disc #'s
    stateside, but the European people either got a regionally numbered
    batch or have the lowest due proximity to EMI (Parlaphone).
    
    				The Cruiser
    
        

    re .80	Well, I didn't realize anyone was keeping a list, maybe
    if I'd waded through .0 - .79 I woul;d know more of whats went on.
     Anyway, I have # 340900 Lechmere Nashua N.H. Sept 14th, for what
    its worth.
    
    	Reg
    

    	With This Topic going on, I don't beleive that being close
    	to EMI Parlophone gets you the lowest numbers.
    
    	Near the East Coast, in Montreal I got 012229.
    	(For CDN$28 = US$20.00) (+9% Tax)
    		Note: In U.S. Type wrapping (2 Separate Jewel boxes)
    
    	Vince.

    CD: 177000     
    
    LP: 150205
    
    2nd copy of LP: 473471

    Maybe the initial excitement has waned a little, but I don't find
    these numbers very interesting anymore!
    
    BTW, on the HMV notes (additional to the CD booklet) they mentioned
    that the original LP appeared to be serially numbered, but wasn't.
    The only way to find out about the CD, however, is to list all numbers
    until we find a duplication (if any). I'm not suggesting that we
    should - but maybe it could be a separate note so that uninterested
    parties could skip it (please!).
    
    wrh