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| 753.1 | Full length CD for $5.99 | PDVAX::P_DAVIS | Peter Davis (aka SARAH::P_DAVIS) | Wed May 13 1987 12:15 | 5 |
| I've got a "good news" story. Yesterday, in Strawberries in
Framingham, I saw many copies of the 1976(?) Broadway revival cast
recording of "Guys and Dolls" CD for $5.99. That's the lowest price
I've ever seen for any CD. This disc was priced at $9.99 when it first
came out (which, of course, is when I bought it.)
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| 753.2 | Sometimes you get the tracks... | AQUA::ROST | But are they friendly spirits? | Wed May 13 1987 12:52 | 36 |
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I have seen a few CDs which omit titles that are on the LP. Often
this is due to the LP running over 80 minutes or whatever the limit
of a single CD is. The record company, figuring noone will pay for
two CDs cuts a couple of tracks.
Sometimes, as in the case of "1999" by Prince, tracks disappear
even though there is room, and that is just a ripoff.
Anyway, here are some double-LP single CD albums that I have seen
where the CD contains *fewer* songs:
The Kinks "Come Dancing" (Arista best of)
The Jam "Compact Snap" (another best of)
Atlantic Rhythm and Blues Anthology (all volumes that
I have seen so far)
Prince "1999"
There are a few that do give you extras,though:
Jefferson Airplane "2400 Fulton St."
this best-of comes with 25 tracks on 2 LPs or
*35* tracks on two CDs.
The Lyres "On Fyre" this import CD contains the
entire domestic LP plus two EPs and a 45
B-side (ten additional tracks) making it
equivalent to a boxed three record French
release. The CD sells at Newbury in Boston
for three bucks less than the LP box!!
So occasionally there is justice.....
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| 753.3 | everything but the best... | STAR::BIGELOW | Bruce Bigelow, DECnet-VAX | Wed May 13 1987 14:08 | 16 |
| Well, this is not your usual rip-off, but it was enough to convince
me not to buy the CD...
I have the LP of the soundtrack of "Close Encounters". I really
like it, and my favorite track is not actually on the LP. The LP
had a little 45-sized record inside of it with the theme as released
for radio play (the one we all remember from when it was played
twice an hour for several weeks), and this is my favorite.
It seems that they decided not to put this on the CD; it only has
the tracks from the original LP, without the radio version. I decided
it wasn't worth $15.99 to get everything except what I wanted most,
especially when the radio version of the theme is available on several
other CDs, including Telarc and Philips.
Bruce
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| 753.4 | | PDVAX::P_DAVIS | Peter Davis (aka SARAH::P_DAVIS) | Wed May 13 1987 14:53 | 10 |
| I have an LP called something like "James Bond's Greatest Hits,"
which contain soundtrack recordings of the title music from the
first 13 films, plus various incidental music ("3 Blind Mice" and
"Underneath the Mango Tree" from "Dr. No", for example). All in
all, 20 tracks.
The CD version, released by the same company, contains only the
13 title songs. I consider that a rip-off.
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| 753.5 | | AUTHOR::MACDONALD | WA1OMM Listening 224.28 | Fri May 15 1987 08:37 | 3 |
| Not to mentioon the lousy quality of the recordings ... the later
ones seem okay (Live & Let Die, etc.), but the early ones sound
better on the TV.
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| 753.6 | Compact Disc Club Horror Story | NEBVAX::GOSSELIN | | Fri May 15 1987 15:17 | 28 |
| I've got a horror story to add. I belong to the RCA Compact Disk
Club, which after you fulfill your enrollment ageement (must buy
two full priced disks, after getting three for a pittance to join)
gives you a bonus certificate for each full priced CD you buy. The
bonus certificate allows you to buy any full priced disc ($15.98)
for half price (7.99). This policy also holds true for multi-disc
sets.
Anyway, I sent in a bonus certificate in March for the two disc
set of The Carpenters "Yesterday Once More" (no flames on musical
tastes, please). The order arrived today - but instead of two discs,
I only got one! At first, I checked to see if they crammed all the
selections on one disc. No sir! Only one disc! Even the liner notes
stuck in with this single disc refers to two discs! And the schmucks
charged me 18.97 (with 2.99 of that for shipping)! I'm so angry
I can't see straight....and now I'll have to fight with their totally
ineffective Customer Service group to return this ripoff. Right
now, the way I feel about this, as soon as I can straighten this
out, me and RCA are gonna part ways. I can't believe that they would
send this after two month's of waiting...what did they think, that
I wouldn't notice the difference?? Geez....
As far as the RCA Compact Disc CLub is concerned, my feelings are
NEVER AGAIN!!!!
Ken
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| 753.7 | CD Club Math Lesson | AQUA::ROST | But are they friendly spirits? | Fri May 15 1987 16:02 | 15 |
| Re: -.6
The CBS club is similar, about $3 for shipping. OK, take one disc
at $15.98. Get a second at $7.99. Add and divide by two. You get
$11.99, not great for a CD but not outrageous. Now add $3 for shipping
(including sales tax because its "shipping" not "postage") and you
get $14.99!!!!!!!
The only deal you get is your "freebies"....
Take your free ones, buy your two and quit.
Then join again...
It is the only way to deal with these turkeys....
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| 753.8 | CBS <> RCA | CLONE::G_SCHULTZ | Geoffrey Schultz | Mon May 18 1987 11:18 | 8 |
| Re .7
The CBS club has a much more reasonable shipping rate than that
of RCA. The 1'st disk is $1.67, the 2'nd and 3'rd around $1.00,
and after that they're $0.67 each. So, just save up your orders
and place a big order. But I agree, RCA is terrible!
-- Geoff
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| 753.9 | There is Always an Exception | AQUA::ROST | But are they friendly spirits? | Mon May 18 1987 11:30 | 7 |
| Re: -.8
The trick with CBS is that the price goes down *only* if they all
end up in the same box...if they have to ship an order of umpteen
CDs in umpteen boxes you pay $1.67 umpteen times.
A voice of experience.
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| 753.10 | Are we talking about the same company? | CLONE::G_SCHULTZ | Geoffrey Schultz | Tue May 19 1987 11:08 | 6 |
| Re .9
That's not my experience. And I've received up to 8 CDs in 1 box.
Also I know that if they're out of stock on something, you pay the
reduced price when they ship it.
-- Geoff
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| 753.11 | Another example... | CHFV03::TODD | Tom Todd, F.S., Champaign, IL | Wed May 20 1987 10:59 | 14 |
| Could anyone explain to me why a particular CD will vary so much in price from
store to store? In particular, I've been watching the releases of some of the
Genesis concerts. I ended up buying the 2 CD set "Three Sides Live" at Tape
World at the mall in Nashua for $22.99 (regular price $24.99 with a $2 off
coupon. Since then I've seen it at prices ranging from $23.99 to $32.99.
The other two 2 disc sets I've seen ("The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" and
"Seconds Out") seem to have similar variations.
The feeling I'm getting is that the distributors are giving the stores a break
on the wholesale price, and greed motivates the store to price it at what the
market will bear. Does someone know how this works?
Tom
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| 753.12 | | VLNVAX::KARLSON | Only 219 shopping days until Xmas! | Wed May 20 1987 11:17 | 14 |
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RE: .-1
You got it exactly. The wholesale prices (for the most part)
don't vary all that much. The prices differences you're seeing
are based on the stores pricing policy (read: greed).
How else do you explain, Rock N' Mania in Framingham having
the Beatles discs at $16.99 (on day of release) and Strawberry's
(which is about 100 yards down the road -- they *MUST* have the
same distributor) having them at $13.99, and other prices have been
reported from $10.00 to $18.99
-rjk
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| 753.13 | One Example of Wholesale | AQUA::ROST | But are they friendly spirits? | Wed May 20 1987 12:17 | 20 |
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As far as wholesale goes, a friend of mine works at the Rounder
Records warehouse.
They have three wholesale prices:
One to stores who deal direct with the warehouse.
One for distributors (such as one-stops) who buy from the warehouse
and resell to stores.
One for artists who wish to purchase copies for resale through their
own mail-order, at shows, etc. or for promotional purposes.
The cheapest of the three is the artist price, $7.50 per CD!!!!!!
The stores dealing direct pay something like $10, distributors about
a buck less.
Hope this helps.
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| 753.14 | Import vs. Domestic | COOKIE::ROLLOW | Murphy's Law applies. | Wed May 20 1987 13:13 | 6 |
| The pricing differences in some of the Genesis CD's may be that
the more expensive ones ($20.00+ for one disc) are the Virgin
imports, while the less expensive are the Atlantic domestic
versions. The Virgin releases often preceded the Atlantic
release by a year or more.
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