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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
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734.0. "The Dawn of Mid-Price CDs???" by AQUA::ROST (His vorpal blade went snicker-snack) Fri Apr 24 1987 09:50

    
    Apparently the rcord companies are beginning to catch on about prices.
    
    In addition to the $10 VOX disks with their *cardboard* packages,
    CBS has entered the fray with both "Great Performances" classical
    titles and "Collector's Editions" (translate as Nice Price rock)
    at $10.98 list.  I also saw an ad for Phillips and DG "budget" CDs
    at a store price of $9.99, I think the titles being from the Jubilee
    and Festivo catalogs.
    
    Also there have been rumors of WEA and others cutting prices on
    "classic" rock, but I have yet to see any (although Manchester Compact
    Disc who advertises on WMDK out of Peterboro, NH touts such titles
    for $11.99).
    
    This is good news for archivists but so far new releases are still
    sky-high.
    
    Interestingly, I've noticed that some retailers are quite arbitrary
    in their pricing.  Some titles which are single disk sets of double-LPs
    seem to fluctuate widely from store to store...A good example is
    the Ryko Zappa CD of "We're Only In It For The Money/Lumpy Gravy"
    which I have seen at $14.99, $18.99 and $22.99 (???).  Brings a
    new meaning to "what the market will bear".
    
    Anybody out there who can confirm these new mid-price lines other
    than the CBS?
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734.1COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri Apr 24 1987 13:237
All the Philips "Silver Line Classics" and the Deutsche Grammophone mid-line
CDs were on sale at the Harvard Coop at $9.99 last weekend.

Electric Gramophone in Sudbury also had them, and, as usual, had them $3 more
expensive than in town.

/john
734.2Just mid-price or mid-fi too?AIAG::BILLMERSMeyer Billmers, AI ApplicationsFri Apr 24 1987 14:1710
Also, the COOP occasionally has $3 off sales which puts most CDs at $13
and if you belong to the COOP you get about 10% off that at year's end...

I've heard real bad things about the engineering of CBS discs. It's not just
cardboard packaging that makes a disc unacceptable at a given price. So, 

1. Have others had this experience with CBS?
2. Are other major labels (TELARC, Archiv, etc.) coming down too, or is
it just mid-fi disks that are mid-priced? (I noted .1 mentions DGG and
Philips, but this was just a "sale" price, no?
734.3Cheap CD's are here to stay!BISTRO::HEINIf We don't Have it,You don't Need it!Sat Apr 25 1987 05:2251
>                                          (I noted .1 mentions DGG and
>Philips, but this was just a "sale" price, no?
    
    No. This offer is going to last. At least for some months, but
    probably for ever. A similar offer is avaiable here in Europe at
    comparable prices which, I believe, is the first time.
    The explanation from a store here is that the music  presented
    is _Culture_ and thus they can use a special 7% Tax instead of
    the (in France) usual 33% !?!?
    The prices for those CDs are around; 25 Dutch guilders,
    75 French Francs, 18000 Italian Lires (should be 15000?)
    The series available at that price are now:
    
    	Philips:	Silver Line Classic	
    	Deutsche Gram.:	Galeria
    	Decca:		Ovation
    	Erato: 		Bonsai
    	Hungaroton:	White Label
    	Harmonia Mundi:	Musique d'Abord
    	Chant Du Monde:	CLub
    	Pickwick-IMP
    	Polygram:	"Special Price" (pop records with special
    			removable jacket around standard inlay,
    			Titles Include:
    			Bee Gees,	Best Of Vol 1
    			Bronski Beat	Hundreds and Thousand
    			JJ Cale		Troubadour
    			Carmel		The drum is everything
    			Dire Straights	Communique
    			Kitaro		Silver Cloud
    			Level 42	Level 42
    			Shadows		XXV
    			Donna Summer	Walk Away
    			Tears for Fears	The Hurting
    			Flashdance
    			Local Hero
    		    	Midnight Express
    
    	The Philips & DGG series are all 'Digital Remasterd'; ADD
    	Pickwick on the contrary offers all new recordings; DDD
    	Erato Bonsai feature all 60+ minutes of music.
    
    	In the same timeframe we also received a series of very-
    	low priced CDs with Extremely bad quality. All proven 
    	million seller old best of pop disks. Prices aorund 60FF.
    	Pure waist of money. Unfortunatly I don't remember the
    	lable now. Something like 'black gold'. Yuch.
    
    			
    Hope this helps,
    		    Hein van den Heuvel, Valbonne
734.4CBS ok by meDSSDEV::CHALTASand what about Naomi?Mon Apr 27 1987 12:344
    re .2
    I've a bunch of CBS CdD's -- no complaints so far.  Not
    "extra-super-audiophile-minimalmiking-othergoodbuzzwords",
    but quite decent.
734.5CBS QUALITYFDCV09::XXDEV3Fri May 01 1987 16:523
    I too have many CBS CD's and have only one complaint.  Simon &
    Garfunkels Greatest Hits has a lot of tape hiss, but I believe that
    is the result of poor master tape quality to begin with.  
734.6Watch Out For OverpricingAQUA::ROSTAre we having fun yet?Wed Aug 19 1987 15:3314
    
    
    A note on mid-priced CDs...
    
    Be careful when buying these.  I have seen a number of them clearly
    marked with the CBS "Collector's Series" logo or the equivalent
    from other labels, yet the store was asking full price!!!
    
    I wouldn't suggest arguing with the clerk (I once got exasperated
    over a guy who tried to charge me $7 for a sampler LP clearly marked
    by the manufacturer "Do not pay more than $0.99") just go to another
    store for it.