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684.1 | How long is the instrumental part on your CD? | CLT::GOOD | Michael Good | Tue Mar 31 1987 23:21 | 14 |
| Since no one has replied who has both the LP and the CD...
I have the LP of The Pretender but not the CD. "The Fuse" has about
90 seconds of instrumental after the last "Say yeah... Yeah, yeah"
phrase. Is that longer than on the CD?
I have 3 Jackson Browne CD's - Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky, and
Running on Empty. There are no problems with the music on any of those
CD's. The tracks are done wrong on Running on Empty, though. For
example, Stay is lumped together with The Load Out, and the intro to
The Load Out is put at the end of the preceding track. No lyrics are
included either.
Michael
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684.2 | The Load Out + Stay = 1 song | CASEE::CLARK | Ward Clark | Wed Apr 01 1987 04:48 | 12 |
| .1> The tracks are done wrong on Running on Empty, though. For
.1> example, Stay is lumped together with The Load Out, and the intro
.1> to The Load Out is put at the end of the preceding track.
I suspect that the lack of a separate track for "Stay" is that the two
songs run together and it was not possible to find an appropriate
beginning for "Stay".
Putting the intro for "The Load Out" on the previous track was an
artistic blunder.
-- Ward (whose favorite J.B. song is "The Load Out")
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684.3 | Mobile Fidelity _vinyl_ ends abruptly | CASEE::CLARK | Ward Clark | Wed Apr 29 1987 05:37 | 21 |
| From: EXODUS::LEVY "Jon Levy"
Regarding "The Fuse," from Jackson Browne's album "The Pretender":
I own the Mobile Fidelity half-speed mastered _vinyl_ version of
this recording, and it exhibits the same abrupt ending as your CD.
Although I haven't checked this, I'd be willing to bet that the
standard LP version is _shorter_ than the "abrupt ending" version,
the difference being the choice of the remastering engineer not
to impose the fade-out that was _added_ *after* the final two-track
master tape was created.
I wonder if the fade-out was something JB asked for after mixdown, or
was imposed by someone at Asylum?
Jon Levy
P.S. I intend on picking up the CD version sometime soon.
Feel free to post the relevant parts of this message to the note
file...
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684.4 | CD version seems shorter than LP version | CASEE::CLARK | Ward Clark | Wed Apr 29 1987 05:54 | 15 |
| I was able to compare a taped copy of the LP release of "The Fuse" with
my new CD release.
I first tried just listening to the two endings, one after the other.
I found it impossible to tell which was longer because the the song
ends with a long, repeating instrumental figure.
I then tried playing the two in parallel, quickly switching back and
forth. Since the tape and CD didn't run at the same speed, it was
tricky to keep them synchronized (by occasionally pausing the slightly
faster CD). After several attempts, it seemed to me that the abrupt
end to CD version of "The Fuse" is due to about 5 seconds being chopped
off. What's lost is 5 seconds of fading instrumental.
-- Ward
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684.5 | Same length, but no fade-out on CD | BAVIKI::GOOD | Michael Good | Thu Sep 29 1988 13:27 | 10 |
| Despite the warning in this note (or maybe because of it?) I picked up
a CD copy of The Pretender. I counted the measures after the last
"yeah, yeah" chorus in "The Fuse". In both the CD and LP versions
there are 48 measures. The difference is that there is a fadeout in
the LP but not in the CD. Since the abrupt ending sounds pretty bad,
and Asylum claims to be trying to duplicate the original recording as
much as possible, I'd claim this is a defective CD. (I think they also
cut off the beginning of the attack of the first chord in "Here Come
Those Tears Again".) I'm going to try to exchange this as a defective
CD.
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