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644.1 | Why DAD? | STAR::JACOBI | Paul Jacobi - VAX/VMS Development | Tue Feb 17 1987 13:32 | 13 |
| I noticed a note on the box that explained the first two albums
were AAD, and the third was DAD. Why DAD? This means that the
source was a expensive multitrack digital tape. Then it was mixed
onto a poor ol' analog two track. Why wasn't it digital mastered?
Did you notice much hiss?
I own the first two LP's, but would consider buying the set to get
the third, plus a clean copy of the first two. (I think that was one
of the last LP's I bought.)
-Paul
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644.2 | I'm always a day late and a dollar short! | BOHR::CASSONE | Dom Cassone UPO1-3 DTN 296-4797 | Wed Feb 18 1987 16:46 | 4 |
| Thanks for the information, but it is a little too late for me.
Last week I just bought the 3rd CD in the set.....I wish that they
had released it in a double CD from the start, but then again they
wouldn't have made as much mony from people like me!!!!
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644.3 | Clean Sound, Definitive Versions? | ROYCE::ROWLEY | Strolls | Thu Feb 19 1987 04:00 | 18 |
| re .1
Both the AAD and DAD sections as clean as whistle, no
discernable hiss. I don't think they messed around on these
recording sessions. They used the best of "proven" technology
available. The whole sound and production quality is excellent and
on par with the quality of performance.
As to the content, I understand that the last 11 tracks
(previously released as "For Sentimental Reasons") were also the
last recordings by Nelson Riddle. I can't help feeling that
some of these recordings will become the definitive versions of
the songs in the CD age. With thirty two tracks to choose from
it is a little difficult to remember all the titles, let alone
pick out any for special mention. They are all so good !.
Hoagy Carmichael's "Skylark" sticks out in my mind. I'll post
more when I've had a chance to listen longer. Anyone else?.
Strolls
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644.4 | A RIDDLE FOR YOU | KAOO01::NORRIS | | Thu Feb 19 1987 11:45 | 10 |
| I am a newcomer to the CD scene, and as such have only compiled
a "library" of seven CD's. Be this as it may...I could'nt agree
with you more. Three of the CD's in my so far limited repertoire
are the Ronstadt, Riddle combinations, and I LOVE THEM. The content
is traditional and the sound is pure heaven!
I highly recommend the set as an addition to your collection.
Neil Norris
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644.5 | Nelson's on the mark - Linda misses | CASEE::CLARK | Ward Clark | Thu Feb 19 1987 18:24 | 17 |
| Let me start by saying that I like a lot of what Linda Ronstadt has
done. In fact, one of my most favorite LV discs is a Randy Newman club
date on which Linda sings two incredible songs.
Her recordings of late with Nelson Riddle are another story. I've been
a fan of the songs for a LONG time. While it's nice that Linda has
giving these old standards long overdue exposure (in this age of "I
only sing my own songs"), I'm not thrilled with her versions of the
songs. They don't hold a candle to the (mostly lost) performances by
singers like Carmen McRae, Chris Connor, Lena Horne, Anita O'Day, ...
Linda's recordings remind me a lot of the GRP recording of a modern
edition of the Glenn Miller Orchestra called "In a Digital Mood". As
I've indicated elsewhere in this conference, this new recording is
missing the spirit of the original recordings.
-- Ward
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644.6 | GIVITALISSEN | KAOO01::NORRIS | VETTE | Fri Feb 20 1987 10:27 | 16 |
| Ward,
That is an interesting viewpoint, and lets face it, we all have
our favourites. Yours are however the firts negative comments I
have heard to date concerning these compilations. In fact Nelson
Riddle thought enough of Linda Ronstadt to come out of seclusion.
I for one am glad he did, and I'm glad Linda was there to greet
him.
Let me recommend to others that they sample the some of the following
tracks, "Round Midnight", "Straighten Up and Fly Right", and "Little
Girl Blues", you wont regret it and you'll get a feel for the flow
of the other pieces in this compilation.
HABBY
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644.7 | The opinion expressed is MINE! | GOLD::ROLLER | | Fri Feb 20 1987 12:09 | 6 |
| Everyone has their own opinions, personally, I've never heard
"When you wish upon a star" sound better. If there is any way
to wear out a cd, that track is in trouble. : )
Ken Roller
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644.8 | | SARAH::P_DAVIS | Peter Davis, X-NYer | Fri Feb 20 1987 12:55 | 12 |
| I agree with the opinion expressed in .5 ... I think Linda Ronstadt's
versions are ok, but these songs are standards, and most have been
done (better, in my opinion) by other artists. As a collection,
I think "'Round Midnight" is good, but taken individually, I think
there are better recordings of most of the songs.
Obviously this is a matter of taste. I happen to find Ronstadt's
singing a little too "saccharine-y". There are lots of CDs of great
singers now, so if you like the "'Round Midnight" material, you
should listen to Mel Torme, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan, Fred
Astaire, and many others, usually in the Jazz section of the CD
bins.
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644.9 | Come on you guys..... | ROYCE::ROWLEY | Strolls | Wed Feb 25 1987 15:31 | 26 |
| Sure, there are many excellent interpretations of these songs
elsewhere, they are standards. I have a large collection covering
a wide spectrum. Indeed, I am a great fan of Ella Fitzgerald who
herself has recorded most of these songs. My original comment
point was that the quality of performance and production is
extremely high throughout this collection and some tracks in
are the best recordings I have heard of a particular song.
Some of the preceeding replies have a deprecatory tone about them,
something I have noticed in NOTES files generally. I like to feel
my comments have been encouraging and positive, to generate interest,
not to see my name on a screen.
We all know people have different tastes. If anyone is interested
in the great standard songs then this is a collection not to be
missed. I have never bought a Linda Ronstadt disc/record before
and I rate 'Round Midnight highly alongside my collection of female
vocalists recordings.
I think I'll go home and listen to it now !!
Strolls
(Yep! that "Wish Upon a Star" is something else !!)
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644.10 | Well, let's open this one up again...fer grins | WCSM::ECTOR | Every little bit hurts - B.H. '64 | Mon Oct 26 1987 18:41 | 52 |
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I realize that the original base-note is over 8 months old, but
I'm just now catching up on a years worth of missed notes - normally
I'm in records and more recently in Beatles notes. I felt that someone
that is a "real" Ronstadt fan needed to plug into this and add a
critique with maybe a different perspective.
I, too, have a somewhat negative reaction to the discs. Not from
a sound perspective, but rather one relating to performance. The
Riddle orchestra leading, as always, is close to perfect. His apparent
influence on Ronstadt's vocal output is what really weakens the
set in my estimation. "Strolls" claims to have no other Ronstadt
collections, and this is what maybe differs his stance from those
of us that disagree.
Linda has run the gamut - soft to racous country, feeling ballads
to wild rock & roll, light opera to ethnic Spanish and now 30's/40's
ballads. She's at her best in her early folk period with the Stone
Poney or during the "Queen of Rock" period beginning in '72 with
"Heart Like a Wheel" and ending in '83 with "Get Closer." Her vocals
range from timid story-telling to awesome drill-instructor-like
orders. The Riddle collection not only stole her voice, but caused her
to lose identity. And, unfortunately, Nelson was the cause.
They rehearsed for 3 months, then spent another 9 going over material
- the best of which was never released because she held so much
trust in Riddle, she held back another 2 albums worth of music.
Sad to say, it was "girl-group" music (Andrews, McGuire sister music),
sung with her 3 backup singers from her rock days, but Riddle didn't
like it.
Listen closely, it's almost as if she's straining in an attempt
to hold back. The orchestra at times is almost over-bearing. If
my memory serves me right, Riddle did this with many artists, except
Sinatra, cause Frankie insisted it'd be his way or no way. Even
Nat King Cole seems much subdued during the time Nelson conducted
behind him, considering his vocal prowess in his later material
(or earlier with the trio). "When You Wish Upon a Star," beautiful
as it may be on it's own merits, is classic Ronstadt subdued. She
just barely makes the final note, cause her throat is so constricted,
while trying to get that high note.
I'd strongly recommend listening to other Ronstadt, then listening
again to the Riddle collection. For a good example of her dynamic
range, listen to "Easy For You To Say" from the "Get Closer" lp.
As much as I love her, the Riddle collection just ain't the Ronstadt
I know.
The Cruiser
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