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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

570.0. "CD vs. record length marketing?" by NATASH::WEIGL (Turboferrets - racing for answers) Sun Dec 14 1986 22:40

    Has anyone heard anything or read about the popular music industry
    thinking about putting MORE MUSIC on the CD's now that they have
    this nice longer-playing format?  I've been doing some checking
    on discs vs. records (and also watched the "extra tracks" notices
    in this file), but it seems that the recording companies haven't
    really begun to differentiate between music on records vs. CD's.
    
    I for one am reluctant to buy things that are, say, 35 min total
    for the same price as something that's closer to 60 min.  This may
    mean that my pop collection will remain in vinyl, and classical
    migrating to CD since I feel "better" about paying the CD premium
    if I'm getting more music out of it.  
    
    Any chance that we'll see either 1) better use of the CD format
    with longer recordings, or 2) price differentiation based on length?
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570.12 for CDAPOLLO::GOODWINSend lawyers, guns, and money... Mon Dec 15 1986 12:194
    A few artist are starting to record for CD vs records. The two I
    know of off hand are Joe Jackson. His album NEW WORLD is one CD
    but takes three album sides. The second is Dire Straits. The Brothers
    In Arms record is a remix of the CD. 
570.2PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiFri Dec 19 1986 20:566
Some of the Frank Zappa CDs that are coming out have packaged as one CD what
was originally issued as two separate LPs.  For example, LUMPY GRAVY and
WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY were released together on one CD, as were
APOSTROPHE' and OVERNIGHT SENSATION.

--PSW
570.3Master of Margaritas tooTHEBAY::WOODRIDyslexia? What's Lysdexia?Fri Dec 19 1986 21:193
Jimmy Buffet seems to be starting that with some of his older albums too.
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Richard
570.4AKOV68::BOYAJIANA disgrace to the forces of evilSat Dec 20 1986 02:138
    In some instances, they can get away with it, if the lengths of
    the LPs are short enough so that two of them are under 74 minutes.
    
    Motown has released a number of its 60's groups' (Temptations,
    Supremes, etc.) albums 2-to-a-disc. And I recently picked up a
    single disc with 2 B.B. King albums on it.
    
    --- jerry
570.5ASIA::MCLEMANJeff McLeman, Workstations DevSun Dec 21 1986 22:254
    If you notice, Journey's "CAPTURED" is one CD but was two Records.
    
    JEff
    
570.6And one moreCUPOLA::HAKKARAINENDeck us all with Boston CharlieMon Dec 22 1986 09:172
    Keith Jarrett put out a 60 minute cd of his two-lp K�ln concert.
    Unfortunately, one of the lp sides got tossed in the transfer.
570.7Industry plays with pricingOMEGA::QUIMBYMon Dec 22 1986 14:255
    The Kink's recent two-record retrospective is available on one CD,
    *minus* a couple of tracks, for about 1.5 x the cost of a regular,
    single CD.  I found this annoying.  
    
    dq
570.8QUARK::LIONELReality is frequently inaccurateMon Dec 22 1986 15:097
    I recently purchased Paul Winter's "Callings" on CD.  As it is
    2 LPs on vinyl, when I saw the "extra-length CD" I figured that
    they had put all the material on both LPs onto one CD.  Apparently
    not so - the CD is only 50 minutes!  I didn't compare the TOC of
    both versions, though, to be sure.  I don't consider a 50 minute
    CD to be "extra length"!
    					Steve
570.9 More for your $$MQFSV1::LEDOUXThis space left blank intentionallyMon Dec 22 1986 18:2613
    For "Extra lenght CD" do not forget "The Boss" Bruce Springsteen
    3 CD ,or 5 vinyl! All CD around 71 min each.
    
    	Also "Remakes" of Deutsche Gramophon, they Re-mastered good
    	old Tschaikowsky 1st, 2nd and 3rd symph along with some ballet
    	music (This one's a jewel), all done by Von Karajan,  all these 
    	records with some material adds up to average  65 minutes
        each.  All are ADD but is great for Tschaikowsky/Von Karajan
    	lover.  Example, the Ballet Music use to be "sleeping beauty"
    	and the "Swan lake",  on CD they have added Nutcraker Suite.
    	
    	/Vince
    
570.10AKOV68::BOYAJIANA disgrace to the forces of evilMon Dec 22 1986 23:016
    I recently bought a B.B. King CD that has two live albums on
    one disc. Definitely over 70 minutes, but I don't recall the
    exact figure. BCD has another B.B. King "twofer", but I haven't
    picked it up yet.
    
    --- jerry
570.11PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiTue Dec 23 1986 22:474
Bob Dylan's BIOGRAPH is another example of a 5 LP set put onto 3 CDs at
~70 minutes each.

--PSW
570.12Dan.REMEDY::KOPECHacks R UsWed Dec 24 1986 09:534
    "Decade of Steely Dan" is about 63 minutes... I don't know if it's
    on vinyl or not. 
    
    ...tek
570.13Take a loanFRSBEE::ROLLATue Dec 30 1986 12:036
    I wonder what they'll do with the early BEATLES albums.
    some of them only have 30 min. of music.
    
    Ouch my wallet
    
    Mike
570.14Double Headers?LA780::GOLDSMITHReserved for Future Use.Tue Dec 30 1986 12:1411
    re .-1:
    
    There has been talk of releasing some of the earlier Beatles albums
    2 to a CD. This might make more sense unless they charge double
    for them...
    
    BTW, all of my import CD sources confirm that the first 4 British
    albums will be released in England in June.
    
    							--- Neal
    
570.15PSW::WINALSKIPaul S. WinalskiSat Jan 03 1987 00:416
I just got a Joe Walsh CD that includes the two albums THE SMOKER YOU DRINK
THE PLAYER YOU GET and YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH A SICK MIND.  They are part of
the MCA Records "Two On One" series.  The CD runs 72 minutes or so and cost
$14.99.  That's about the same price one would pay for the LPs.

--PSW
570.16Creedence, alsoNHL::NEILPeter C.Mon Jan 05 1987 16:035
 CCR's "CHRONICLE" is a single CD from a two album set. I don't remember
what the total length is though.

P.
570.17That doesn't surprise meNRLABS::MACNEALBig MacTue Jan 06 1987 12:523
    CCR's "Chronicle" will fit on one 60 minute cassette tape.  It's
    one of those double albums that was too long for a single album,
    like the Beach Boys' "Endless Summer".