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559.1 | a non-technical response... | NATASH::WEIGL | Turboferrets - racing for answers | Fri Dec 05 1986 11:51 | 6 |
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ain't the case on my system. Brothers In Arms is one of the best
discs I've ever heard, and is very well balanced. BTW, this is
also true for this disc on a "super-system" (AKA BIG $$), down at
natural sound. Seems like one of your components ain't up to par
with the disc....
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559.2 | | NHL::NEIL | Peter C. | Fri Dec 05 1986 12:27 | 6 |
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RE .0
I'll go along with .1 - it's the best of my (limited) collection.
P.
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559.3 | Something else to think about | RENKO::PROPPER | | Fri Dec 05 1986 12:46 | 11 |
| There is a difference in another aspect also. When an album is cut
on vinyl the highs are compressed and the bass is pumped up. As
my understanding goes (someone please correct me if I am mistaken!),
this to make the grooves pack better on the album. What you are
getting on the CD is the true dynamic range of the music as it was
recorded. It could be a case that your ears aren't used to have
those types of highs in your music. I also enjoy Brothers in Arms
quite a bit and have found other albums to be similar in that I
was used to the compressed version of the music.
John
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559.4 | LP equalization | DSSDEV::STRANGE | Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite | Fri Dec 05 1986 12:59 | 15 |
| I believe that when an album is CUT, the bass is attenuated and
the treble is boosted. As .3 said, If this were not done,
the grooves would
be so wide (due to lateral variation) that you could fit only a
few minutes on each side of an LP. When the LP is played back,
the bass is boosted and the highs are attenuated using a standard
equalization circuit. This should restore the equalization properly.
If the LP has attenuated highs, it is the fault of the equipment
or of the mastering process of the record. An LP and a CD taken
from the same master should sound very close to identical as far
as equalization.
re: base note
I also have the Brothers In Arms disc, and I agree that it is one
of the best recordings on CD--sounds great!
-Steve
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559.5 | sssssssssssssssss | JON::MORONEY | Welcome to the Machine | Fri Dec 05 1986 13:04 | 3 |
| .4 is correct, and another reason of doing it that way is to reduce hiss.
-Mike
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559.6 | | NSSG::KAEPPLEIN | | Fri Dec 05 1986 13:06 | 13 |
| I found the disk bright, both on LP and CD. Its pretty clean and
not really nasty, just a typical treble boost pop producers like.
There is also some nice tight, pretty deep bass which helps to balance
out the treble - though your speakers (and amp) may not fully convey it.
I have a Philips player (one of the 14 bit models - I don't remember
the model number mapping to Magnavox 2041) that is modified and
sounds good. If you replace the electrolytic DC blocking capacitors
with polypropelene's you can reduce mid-range harshness and add
a little detail. That $20 change will get you most of a Mission
or Meridian.
The CD150 would make a nice system with your good amp and speakers.
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559.7 | Let me toss in my $.02 | NATASH::WAGNER | | Fri Dec 05 1986 16:38 | 17 |
| I know nothing about the design and specs of the CD150, however,
I and a friend once did an A-B of our two players on his system.
His player had 2X oversampling and digital filtering, mine was the
more mundane 44.1k Hz sampling freq. with analog filtering. There
was a noticeable difference in the way that these players reproduced
the high-end material on a CD which I would characterize as a
raggedness and increased brightness in my player. On such things
as baroque strings on "original instrumentation", my player had
a harshness which was not present on his. You almost felt like
you were only getting the higher frequency range of the material.
It could be that you were experiencing the same phenomenon in your
listening tests. For myself, there is some music which I would
rather listen to on a turntable (or my friends CD player) than on
my CD.
Jim
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559.8 | | COVERT::COVERT | John Covert | Sat Dec 06 1986 09:46 | 5 |
| Brothers in Arms in one of the CDs I listened to just before and just after
making the switch to polypropylene on my Yamaha CD-X1 (amp: the Carver Receiver,
speakers: JSE 1). The difference in reduced harshness was quite noticeable.
/john
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