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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

464.0. "MOWTOWN - Rules again !!!" by PUZZLE::ECTOR () Thu Sep 18 1986 16:31

    
    In case those of you that don't subscribe to Digital Audio haven't
    yet discovered - Motown has done itself proud again. First they
    hit us with almost full discs of their own compilations. Some stuff
    so obscure that only the most ardent Mowtown fan would buy it, some
    so readily available in other forms no-one cared. Well they've really
    provided a service this time, by coming out with 2 albums on a single
    disc. 
    
    Just bought a copy of Teena Marie's "Irons in the Fire/It must be
    Magic" disc, using a full 73.52 (poopoo to you that saw the max
    data at 72 minutes). The series covers the spectrum of Mowtown artists
    such as the Supremes, Four Tops, Temps, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye
    and on, and on....  The first set of releases is 40 two album discs
    with a plan for another 40 in the next 6 months. Some of the albums
    are good pairings, others not so good, but God love 'em....somebody
    out there hears us. Oh, by the way, the price is right too !!! I
    get mine at a California chain called FEDERATED for $11.97 apiece.
    The plan, according to the article in DA&CDR is to keep the price
    in line with that of a single CD. Gonna try the Supremes CD next
    - it has the "I hear a Symphony" lp doubled with "Baby Love" - the
    CD covers also use the original albums cover art. Neat stuff for
    the collectors in the crowd.
    
    				The Cruiser
    
    
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464.1Probably a lot more that 72 minutesSALLIE::BLIZZARDMike Blizzard, Woburn FSLThu Sep 18 1986 17:543
	Isn't it probable that they can fit so much onto these disks because
	most of the material is in MONO?  
464.2ONE FOR EACH EAR !!!!PUZZLE::ECTORThu Sep 18 1986 21:5312
    
    
    Beg to differ....in the case of Teena Marie, it's all in very exacting
    stereo. Also, I believe that Mowtown has always been one of those
    labels that prided itself on it's stereo...I own MANY of the early
    albums (back to '59 for the first Miracles lp - featured hit was
    Bad Girl) which are all in stereo. Not being tekkie, don't think
    stereo/mono would have a different effect like it does on records,
    where tracks are on either side of a groove, but I'm not sure.
    
    				The Cruiser
    
464.3AKOV68::BOYAJIANForever On PatrolFri Sep 19 1986 01:339
    How much of a fan can you be if you can't spell "Motown" right?
    
    (I know, it's tacky to point out spelling errors, but I couldn't
    resist.)
    
    Also, I don't know of anyone who claimed that the max time on a
    CD was 72 minutes. 74 was the figure I've always heard.
    
    --- jerry
464.4Mono=longer?DSSDEV::STRANGEFri Sep 19 1986 10:499
    In response to reply concerning MONO recordings...
    
    I don't believe it is possible to produce a longer CD simply because
    it is mono.  I would assume that the Left and Right tracks are
    interleaved in the digital encoding (along with a lot of housekeeping
    data for the track number, clock, etc.)  Whatever the max. length
    is, it should be constant for all CD's made by all manufacturers...
    -Steve
    
464.5Yes, Jerry - it is MOTOWNPUZZLE::ECTORAl Ector, Santa Clara, CaFri Sep 19 1986 13:2921
    
    Thank heaven for guys like Jerry....of course it's MOTOWN (an acronym
    for Motor City). I suppose this needs a trivial bit of explaination.
    Being from Chicago (Home of "real" soul music - Chess/Checker/VeeJay,
    et al), it became kind of a joke to add the "W" in writing about
    MO"W"TOWN to elongate the sound. So I admittedly added it in jest
    without letting anyone else in on the Yuk Yuk.
    
    Now for the "meat" of the subject. I did acquire the Supremes double
    CD "Where did our love go"/"I hear a symphony" AND one called "Every
    Great MOTOWN Song: The 1st 25 years, Vol I & Vol II" - not only
    are they good CD's with negligible (if any) hiss, but the selection
    on the latter is (as Tony the Tiger would say) GRREEEAAATTT!!!
    
    Recommend anything in the series highly - also in the last mentioned,
    a catalog was included. Go fer it !!!
    
    
    				The Cruiser
    
    
464.6Another mono==>longerSKYLAB::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO1-1/D42Fri Sep 19 1986 13:317
    Another comment about mono=longer.  You are right that if songs
    are mono, you should be able to pack in twice as much info.  However,
    that would presume that the CD player was clever enough to be able
    to interpret that differently-packed data.  I doubt any manufacturer
    would put that into a player.  There are just too few mono recordings.
    
    Burns
464.7Yet another mono-->longerDSSDEV::STRANGEFri Sep 19 1986 17:4014
    Yet another comment about mono=longer.  If a CD player DID incorporate
    reading mono discs to save space, it would have to run at half the
    speed that it normally does, since the tracks have to be the same
    width.  It would also require a different interpreter to read a
    mono disc.  Also, there would have to be some way for the player
    to realize that a certain disc is mono instead of stereo, thus the
    discs would have to be specially made for this purpose.  It would
    be far too expensive to go to that kind of trouble simply to get
    mono.  Mono discs look the same to a CD player as stereo ones, they
    just have the same (close, anyway) data for the left and right tracks.
    
    Sorry for diverging from the topic at hand...
    -Steve
    
464.8re: mono CD's...SMLONE::RYANTo CD or not CD...Mon Sep 22 1986 12:461
	see note 359