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    Sounds like salesman brain-fade.
    	
    Go back in two weeks.  If you don't get a good demo, don't go back
    again.  Go somewhere else.
    

    Maybe he put the disks upside down (or actually, maybe he put them
    upside up). I seem to recall from another note in this file that
    this player wants the disks the label side down...
    

    I am seriously interested in buying one. Are people still happy
    with them?
    
    					-Bill-
    

    
    		The problem, as identified by one of the replies,
	was a new salesperson loading the CD right side up (which
    	is with this player is up-side-down.
    					-Bill-

    I'm one of the folks who entered a note earlier on about the M6.
    
    Problem probably was the salesperson's error of putting the disc
    in upside up. (Can't understand why anyone would make a mistake
    like that.)
    
    During demo of the M6 at Geppeto's the day I bought mine, the machine
    tracked very well on a horribly scratched disk that some of the
    machines would shut off in the middle of.
    
    I'm still happy with mine.
    
    Jim

    The PD-M6 is on sale this week in Lechmere for $350.

    - Paul (can't be happier with mine)

    
    	I had a look at Lechmere in Framingham but it seems they
    	only had the standard price so either the sale is over
    	or this was the wrong Lechmere.
    	If anybody out there sees this unit on sale please send
    	a mail ASAP. I'm ready to buy at the right price.
    
    	Thanks
    		Peter

    
    Well, I have a raincheck for that store for the sale price you can
    have.  It'd probably mean you'd need to pay cash, tho.
    
    I'm in Stow, live in Maynard.  You want it?  It's yours.  Sale price
    was $349, and it's good for another 5-6 days (in stock).
    
    Let me know.

    I bought my Pioneer last January (of 1987, not 1986)--it was the
    new model that just came in that week, but it has a magazine for
    loading six CDs at a time. I've mentioned this before in another
    note, but it might not hurt to repeat it: when I first installed
    the unit, I needed cables about 4-5 feet long to reach my preamp.
    Now I have the preamp mounted vertically on the side of my shelves
    (this eliminated all traces of hum that the amp used to induce!)
    so I only need about 10 inches of cable--which I upgraded. The
    difference is almost unbelievable. I love this machine more and
    more with every new release of an old favorite LP on CD.
    
    Jack Truslow
    

    RE. .9
    
    	Can you tell me what the differences are between the pre and
    post January '87 Pioneer PD-M6's? Just curious.. I have one of the
    original units and would like to know what enhancements (if any)
    the newer units contain?...
    
    regards,
    

    Re. .10
    I'm sorry--but the old model was not in the store when I went in
    to buy it (the Sunday that the sale was announced in the Boston
    Globe). I had to take a rain check and wait until the following
    Wednesday for the new models to come in.
    
    I can describe the unit I bought, though, if that's any help. It
    has two magazines, one for a single disc and one that holds six.
    It can be programmed to play the bands in any sequence you like
    on both the single- and the six-disc magazine. It can be set to
    play bands in random order (I've never used this feature and have
    never seen any reason for having it). It has remote control. It
    can fast-forward and fast-backup with sound. It can be placed in
    pause and then be restarted from where it left off. It can skip
    bands by the pressing of a button. It cannot read second-level (index)
    hits--only the major band divisions. It's front-loading and requires
    that the discs be inserted "up-side-down" (as in the older models
    I've read about). It can jump to any band you like while it's playing--
    you simply push a button to indicate the disc number and then the
    button(s) to indicate the band number and push PLAY. (There's a
    separate bank of buttons for disc number and band number.) It has
    the "Pacman" light-up displays to indicate which disc is playing
    and displays the band number and time elapsed in large digits.
    
    There are probably more features than these, but these are the ones
    I use. By the way--I think the model number is longer than PD-M6.
    Does PD-M6100 sound far-fetched? I apologize for being so vague
    about all this--but I just stumbled across your query by accident
    today. Usually typing NEXT UNSEEN just takes me to the next note.
    But for some reason it's showing me responses that I never saw when
    I type it in today.
    
    Cheers,
    Jack Truslow
    

    re .11	You seem to use the term "bands" for what are
    conventionally described as "tracks".  The Pioneer model replacing
    the PDM 6 is the PDM 60, there are models above and below it, I
    think they are 40, 50 and 70.  Each has the 6 pack and single magazine
    capability, I think the 40 does not have a remote control.  Also,
    Pioneer players (generally) do not provide any indexing capability.
    This is a level of song/tune/movement separation below "track",
    not all disks have it so its not a big deal.  FWIW, I may sell my
    PDM 6 soon in order to buy a Sony 10 pack player, nothing wrong
    with it, just itchin' for something bigger and new.
    
    	Reg
    

    re .12
    		Just to clarify the statement in .12 about "Pioneer
    players (generally) do not provide any indexing capability."
    This is true of ALL 6 pack/changer players, so I'm told by a
    salesman.  This is not true of single players/non changers.
    Many of these have the indexing feature.
    
    Don