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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
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263.0. "TEMP PROB WITH SONY 610ES" by NERMAL::LAURENCE () Tue Jan 21 1986 17:43

I HAVE A SONY 610ES WHICH WAS PURCHASED OVER A YEAR AGO.  IT WORKED PERFECTLY
FOR ABOUT THE FIRST 8 MONTHS, THEN DEVELOPED THE FOLLOWING PROBLEM.  WHEN
THE UNIT IS COLD IT WILL SKIP AND JUMP AROUND, IF I LEAVE IT ON FOR ABOUT
20 TO 30 MINUTES THEN IT WILL WORK FINE.  SOME DISKS SEEM TO BE WORSE THAN
OTHERS WHEN IT DOES THIS, BUT ALL WILL PLAY FINE WHEN THE UNIT WARMES UP.

I TOOK IT TO BE REPAIRED, AND THE REPAIR SHOP REPLACED THE "READ HEAD". 
NOW, IT WORKS BETTER, BUT STILL DOES THE SAME THING BUT NOT EVERY TIME IT
IS USED.  I GUESS I WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK AGAIN.

ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE HAVING A PROBLEM LIKE THIS?  ONE OTHER PERSON HERE
IN COLO SPRINGS THAT HAS A MITSUBISHI PLAYER HAS TOLD ME HE HAS A SIMILAR
PROBLEM, BUT HE HAS SOME DISKS THAT ALWAYS SKIP (ONLY ON HIS PLAYER, THEY
WORK FINE ON MINE -WHEN WARM)
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263.1LATOUR::APPELLOFWed Jan 22 1986 07:532
See note 260

263.2CRVAX1::KAPLOWFri Jan 24 1986 19:3630
Nope! 260. is the opposite problem. This one sounds like it gets better with
use, not worse. Unfortunately our D5 just started doing this also. We bought it
early December, 1984. In January 85 it developed problems, and the dealer just
swapped it for a new May the problems returned, and after his service tech
diddled with it for 2 weeks, they sent it to Sony for another month. Last month
the one year warranty was up. This week it started doing the same thing again. 

My wife teaches, and we bought the D5 so she could take it to school each day,
and listen while grading papers, etc. Even after giving it a long time to warm
up to room temperature (2 days at home), it would play a few tracks, and then
get stuck in a "repeat loop" type mode. The D5 has no such feature. If you go on
to another track on the disk, it did the same thing. Strangely enough, she did
not take it to school last semester. It seems that it works fine in the house,
but if we use it as a portable it has problems. It IS supposed to be portable,
isn't it? I mean, thats why we bought the thing, and for the full $299 that it
went for back then. 

It does this on all disks, about half way into the disk, track 6 being typical.
Last time it was around track 2 that the problem showed up. At any rate, after
trying at least half a dozen disks, I took the "Digital Domain" (29 cuts
totalling almost 60 minutes), and repeatedly ran the "head" from track 1 to 29
and back, about 10 or 20 times. After doing this it now seems to be behaving. We
will see if the problem comes back when she takes it to school again next week.
 
I think that either the bouncing around, or the cold outside is doing something
to the stepper motor, causing it to stick. Cycling the head back and forth
several times seems to clear it up. When Sony had it last June, they replaced
2 parts a "motor assy, sled" and "rack", whatever they are.

Stay tuned for the further adventures of the D5.
263.3NERMAL::LAURENCEMon Jan 27 1986 10:0721
RE: Response .2    

Thanks for the input.  I don't know if your problem is the same as mine or
not.  

It has been very warm here in Colorado the last couple of weeks, and I have
had no problems at all with my 610 during this time.  It sure does appear
that the player is very sensitive to temperature.  I forgot to mention in
the original note that I did not have this trouble during the summer when
the house stays a lot warmer.

I guess I will take my unit in to the dealer again, but I don't have much
confidence in them being able to fix it.  This brings me to an interesting
point, I don't know if many people are aware of this, but all SONY ES series
components have a full 3 year warranty.  Those of you looking at SONY 
products might want to shell out the extra bucks for the more expensive
unit for this extra peace-of-mind.  At least I have lots of time to keep
taking it back in hopes of getting it fixed.

Dennis

263.4ESPN::SMITHTue Jan 28 1986 08:0713
We have had a similar problem with our CDP302.  We bought in in March 85
and around December 85 on about 1 out of 3 discs it started skipping.  It
happened about 10 minutes into the disc for about 5 minutes (around track
4).  It didn't seem to matter which disc it was, so it was definitely the
player.  It didn't seem to have anything to do with the environment either,
since it happened when it was raining, snowing, cold, or warm.  Luckily it
is still under warranty (just barely) and is in the shop now.  They have
had it over 3 weeks and I miss having it!!!  Has anyone else had this problem
with this Sony model???  Are there any particular parts that should be replaced?
I am very skeptical about repair shops (they are authorized Sony repair center)
and want to try to avoid repeat performances of the problem.

Donna Missing_my_CD's Smith
263.5ULTRA::HERBISONWed Jan 29 1986 18:5712
I have a Sony CDP 101 that I bought two years ago.  Just after
I turn the machine on the first disc played will sometimes start
skipping.  If this happens I just take the disc out, blow dust
off of it (this probably doesn't do anything except make me feel
good) and put the disc back in.  Everything works fine the second
time (or, in rare cases, the third time).

I have not noticed a correlation between this and the discs, the
temperature, the humidity, or any other conditions.  I never took
this player in to be looked at because the problem was never more
than a minor irritation.
						B.J.
263.6CURIUM::ANDERSONThu Jan 30 1986 13:1312
Well, I'm not sure whether my experience with my Sony CDP102 fits in
the 260.0 or the 263.0 category, but I have also had a disk repeat
near the beginning, on about a 1 second cycle.  Like a couple of
replies to the original notes (inc. -.1), just removing the disk and
replacing it seemed to be the fix.  I did notice that by turning down
the audio I could hear a faint "tick" coming from the player at
exactly the repeat rate.  I guess just about all of the Sony players 
have this kind of a problem.  Since I have not had to take it to the 
shop to have any repairs, I would still have to say that I am pretty 
satisfied with the unit.

					- Will
263.7PENNSY::MACNEALFri Jan 31 1986 08:122
I received a Sony CDP-30 for Christmas and haven't had any problems with it 
yet.  I hope these notes aren't an omen of things to come.
263.8SPEEDY::LIONELFri Jan 31 1986 12:162
I've used my Sony D-5 daily for 8 months now with nary a glitch.
				Steve