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Title:Welcome to the CD Notes Conference
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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
Last Modified:Fri Mar 03 1989
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

262.0. "repair CDs?" by TROLL::CLIN () Tue Jan 21 1986 14:56

I made a mistake by offering to lend my neighbor some of my CDs, and guess
what, they came back defective!  Out of the five I lend him 3 were gonza.
He still have 2 or 3 of my records;  I think I'll go get it back tonight.

One of the 3 damaged contains music my a female Japanese singer whom I 
like very much (after I started listening to her music), and it can not
be replace except buying it from Japan.  Bum!

I looked at the playing surface, and there are no major nicks, dents, or
deep scratches.  It does have patches of very fine scratchs running 
in the direction of vinyl groves, which accounts for the greater damage
it causes.  It's of the nature that it's not sever to cause consistent
skip at the consistent spot, but once it gets there, the skip is always
inevitable.  

Are there anyway to fix them?  I really don't think so, but figure I'll
ask just for the hell of it.  Sh*t, am I pissed off.  

I think he leaves CDs lying around with the playing side facing down, and
the disc got pushed around the surface.  Anyway, I don't feel like telling
him, and of course I am never going to lend him any discs anymore.

Charles

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262.1LEFTY::CWILLIAMSTue Jan 21 1986 15:4810
Find a good plastic polish and buff the disk from the inside to the
outside radially. The kind of stuff you want you can probably get at
a motorcycle shop - it is used for cleaning visors. Unless the label 
side is scratched there is really nothing wrong with the disk. Try it
on a disk you really don't care about. It may take a few tries till 
you get it. I've also heard of people using toothpaste, but it is 
pretty abrasive. Good Luck!

Chris Williams

262.2GRAMPS::WCLARKTue Jan 21 1986 17:1128
I have been meaning to suggest this as a fix to someone. I dont have a CD
player but am interested in the technology.

One of the polymers for vinyl restoration/protection of automobiles might
give you the results you want without buffing. Products like Armour-All 
Protectant, do not actually dry, but spread out on a surface in a very thin
layer. I have used the Armour-All on my turntable cover and noticed a very
large reduction in in the number of fine scratches reflected by the bright
lites just above the turntable. If in fact the polymer actually fills in
the smaller scratches then this stuff would actually reduce the load on
your CD players focus servo, by reducing changes in refraction encountered
both with scratches and polishing them out.  

I checked with one of the CDROM folks here and they saw very little potential
for harm to the player once the stuff settled out (it is self leveling and
healing) as long as it is kept off the label side (it would probably soften
the label adhesive).    The reader head travels about 1 mm above the media
and most clamping systems are magnetic, so it should not interfere with
either. I dont know how to rate it with regard to dirt and fingerprints.

Someone might want to give this a try on a disc that is otherwise unimportant
to them and report back here before subjecting a one of a kind disc to this
treatment.  Come to think of it the Armour-All washes off every time I wash
the car, so maybe it can be tried anyway since its reversable with soap and
water.                                                                     


Walt                                                                    
262.3XENON::MUNYANTue Jan 21 1986 23:485
Brookstone sells a product called Mirror Glaze that does a great job of
fixing scratches in plastic.

Steve

262.4AKOV75::BOYAJIANWed Jan 22 1986 02:128
re:.0

Actually, I think you *should* mention the problem to your friend. At the
very best, he might offer to reimburse you something for the damage. At the
very least, he may be made aware that the myth about CD's being vulnerable
to nothing short of kryptonite is just that --- a myth.

--- jerry
262.5MMO03::SANDERSWed Jan 22 1986 08:467
RE:.0

I agree about mentioning it to your "friend".  What will she/he think when
they ask to borrow again and you say no (kinda without reason).  Clear the
air now to save big problems later.

Jim
262.6MANANA::DICKSONWed Jan 22 1986 10:512
The "friend" may have thought he was cleaning the disks and used the
old circular motion appropriate for LPs (but verboten for CDs).
262.7CRVAX1::KAPLOWFri Jan 24 1986 19:204
What! CDs damagable! Can't happen :-) (I had to get that in before someone
else did)

I agree with .6, it sounds like your friend "cleaned" them the wrong way.
262.8Micro-Mesh might workSTAR::ARANDARem Aranda (DTN) 381-1238 MS:ZK01-3/J33Sun Nov 02 1986 22:5111
    re:.0
    
    An untested idea, from one who suffers empathetically with you:
    There's a product called "Micro Mesh" used to restore aircraft acrylics
    among other things (its maker claims it will actually clean anything
    except glass and ceramics), which may very well allow you to restore
    your irreplaceable CD's. Micro Mesh is made by Micro-Surface Finishing
    Products Inc.; as I recall, the Pilot Shop at Hanscom (Bedford,
    MA) carries it.
    
    -Rem