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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
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Number of topics:1517
Total number of notes:13349

224.0. "Mistracking Yamaha" by GRAFIX::CHALTAS () Tue Dec 03 1985 09:16

My Yamaha CD-X1 seems inordinately sensitive to small amounts of dust
on the disk.  If the dust is near the beginning of the disk, it won't
play at all -- it tries, but skips, or just skips over the first several
minutes of music.  Dust further on doesn't seem to be so much of a problem,
although it may cause an occaisional skip.  I don't *think* my appartment
is inordinately dusty.  If I blow the dust off the disk it usually will
track alright, although it may take a few tries.  This happens at least
1/4 of the times I play disks!   Is the tracking out of whack, or was
I suckered into buying a real piece of trash?  Any other Yamaha owners
with this problem?  Yes, I'll be taking the thing in for service soon.

	George Chaltas
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224.1MMO03::SANDERSTue Dec 03 1985 09:2322
Look out George.  My Yamaha CD-X1 is in the shop right now.  You might want
to mail John ORAC::COVERT and talk to him about his problem, too.

My problem started a little like yours, only I would miss the first few seconds
of the first track.  Also, I would get a fluh-fluh-fluh-fluh sound on the
first four tracks or so of a disc (only one disc showed problems).

I took the deck to the shop on 21-NOV-1985 along with the disc that had 
problems.  I played the disc on another Yamaha (CD-3?) and it worked perfectly.
The shop had a Phillips test disc that had some tracks with errors built
in.  My deck could not track those cuts.  The shop seemed to think that I
might have two problems; one being mistracking, the other having to do with
the little turntable that the disc sits on.  They said that Yamaha had a
mod out for the turntable.

I called the store yesterday and they said that the part needed for the mod
was on backorder and didn't know when it would be in.

I, too, wonder how many CD-X1 owners are having/have had problems.

�Jim

224.2DELPHI::BECKTue Dec 03 1985 13:207
My CD-X1 had the "fuh-fuh-fuh" problem on about 20-25% of my disks. I took
it back to Tweeter under the warranty to have it adjusted. It's back now,
and the problem has disappeared entirely.

The story I was given is that a fair number of these units got jounced around
pretty good when shipped from Japan, throwing them out of alignment. Anyway,
mine's fixed now (for the time being...).
224.4MMO03::SANDERSWed Dec 04 1985 09:325
My first CD-X1 (which was stolen by swine thieves while I was away consulting)
worked just fine for the time that I had it.  Makes me think the rumor of
a bad shippment (mentioned previously) is true.

�Jim
224.5ARGUS::CORWINThu Dec 05 1985 02:2926
I have the same kinds of problems with my CD-X2.  It started out as an
occasional skip in one place that would usually stop after re-trying or
lightly cleaning the disc.  Then it was two skips, and got progressively
worse until either it wouldn't start playing at all, or it would start and
immediately flake out.  I finally couldn't put off the inevitable return to
the shop (also Tweeter).  He told me 3-4 weeks.  Knowing I couldn't live without
CD's for that long, I went across to Lechmere and bought another player
(Technics SLP-3), figuring I could return it in a month if I didn't want it (I
was in the market for a new player, anyway, for assorted reasons).  6 weeks
later, I still had the Technics (was happy with it) and Tweeter called me to
pick up my Yamaha.  They said it had been badly misaligned, causing the
mistracking.  I took it home, plugged it in to use in the bedroom for the time
being, and after a couple of uses (if that much!) it was skipping again.  Sure
glad I bought my second player.

By the way, what caused me to dread bringing my CD player to the shop was an
experience a friend of mine had.  He must have been without his player for 4
or 5 months, shortly after buying it, while he waited for them to ship it to
the right place and get it fixed. He eventually bought another player, planning
to use the first at work when it came back. The company told him they didn't
make it anymore and if he'd send them $x, they'd send him the new-improved
model. He told them where to go, and they eventually sent him the new player.

Jill


224.6BOEHM::ROSENBAUMSat Dec 07 1985 21:136
re. bouncing around on the way from Japan

Does the CD-X1 have shipping screws that must be removed to use it?  The
CD-2 has three.

Just wondering if Yamaha lowered the price a little by saving on them.
224.8GRAFIX::CHALTASMon Dec 09 1985 07:301
Yes, but the screws for my CD-X1 were missing.
224.9AJAX::BECKTue Dec 10 1985 21:438
The screws for my CD-X1 were present up to and including the first time I
tried to play a CD. Since it didn't sound too good, I decided to RTFM and
removed the shipping screws. I asked the guy at Tweeter (after the fact,
so as not to affect the warranty!) if that might have contributed to the
alignment problem, but he didn't think so. (If it's a delicate alignment,
I suspect that might have been the problem in my case, salesman's expertise
or no.) I'd definitely suspect misalignment if you have any problems with
it and DIDN'T have any shipping screws when it arrived.
224.10CD-X2 bites the dustSYBIL::CHALTASThu Feb 27 1986 10:118
    Well, My player was a CD-X2 after all, not an X1,  and my experience
    was
    exactly like that of .5.  I took it in to be fixed, it came back
    "fixed", but still didn't work.  I took it back to tweeter last
    night, and they exchanged it for a CD-300 (looks quite similar).
    So far so good -- I've played 3 disks on it so far without a glitch.
    
    	George
224.11The final outcomeDITTO::CORWINJill CorwinThu Feb 27 1986 14:2312
I posted reply .5 quite a while ago, and figured it was about time I let
you all know what the end result was.

I took the CD-X2 back for the second time (along with my friend's Nak that
had also broken down), and they gave me the choice between a new CD-X2 or
a Denon player (don't remember the model number) with a similar price.

I went for the Denon, since I had decided I was probably going to give it
to someone else, who might prefer having the remote control, and the random
access programmability that the Yamaha was lacking and the Denon had.

Jill