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Just this disk? You're sure you haven't set your CD player into "repeat"
mode?

Just a thought...

RE .1 -- Yup, just this disc (at least, so far).  I don't think our
CD player (Sony D5) even has a repeat mode...(does it?)

							-- Nina

						

No, the D5 doesn't have repeat.  (I wish it did!)
			Steve

I also have a D-5 and the CCR Chronicle CD (released by Fantasy in Bezerkly,
CA) and my CD/D-5 does *NOT* repeat.  Your CD or D-5 may have problems.

As for the CD itself, if you like CCR or John Fogerty, this CD is a must.
Hardly any hiss (considering its age), very clear sound, and lots of separation
(I think I said all the "proper" buzzwords :-)  At 68":09 of playing time
it is the longest playing CD I own (out of about 30) and of my most frequently
played.

mad matt

For the author of .0, it may be the longest playing CD of all time.

Cheer up. It could have been a Slim Whitman CD...

re .2, .0:

So its a D-5? Mine developed a problem last spring. It would pick a random point
on the disk, play to that point, then skip back to previous point. When it got
to the same place on the disk, it would perform an identical skip. This would
repeat forever, just as if you had selected a repeat phrase function (which the
D-5 certainly doesn't have). This would happen somewhere in the first two
tracks. Changing disks, or stopping and restarting the disk, would make the same
thing happen again, but in a different place each time. I took it back to the
dealer who screwed around with it for 2 weeks, and then sent it back to Sony.
Another month there and it was fine. 
                                    
I would check the disk out on another player, and try other disks in the D-5. If
it isn't reproducable on other players, and especially if you see similar
strange behavior on any other disks in the D-5, I would send it back to Sony
while it is still under warranty. I doubt if anyone other than Sony has the
ability to fix this beast, at least at this time. 

RE .5 -- A Slim Whitman disc?!?!?!  Gag me.....(better yet, gag him!)

RE .6 -- So far, this is the only disc we've had this problem with (knock
on wood).  I am going to lend it to someone else and see whether he has
the endless-playing experience.  If our other discs start exhibiting the
same behavior, I guess we'll have to have the player checked out.

							-- Nina

re .0

I just bought the disc in question and had no problem with it.  It is definitely
a first-rate disc.  It is even labeled as DDD.

If you have this repeating problem consistently with the disc, and your other
discs are all playing with no problems, you'd better skip letting someone else
try it out and get it back to the dealer ASAP before you're out of luck
returning it (unless you're good friends w/ your dealer, maybe).  I've known
a few lucky people who were able to return defective discs after the return
period has expired, but I think this is probably the exception.  And the stores
were not department stores.

Jill

re .8:

My disk is labeled as AAD, not DDD.  Who produced your disk?

Curious,
matt Thomas

I second the question. I can't believe that a CCR album would have been
digitally recorded, or even digitally mixed.

--- jerry

Re: .9,.10

I couldn't believe it either, but I checked, and mine is also labeled DDD?
The label is "Fantasy" (which is probably an apt name if it is really DDD).
There is no copyright information on the disc.  The disc was manufactured
by Polygram in West Germany.  Actually there is a warning that "Copyright
subsists in all recordings issued under this label. ..." on the insert,
and there is the typical Polygram information around the circle of the
disc stating the message about "...unauthorized broadcasting..." and such
but nowhere is there a "Copyright (C) 19??" to enforce it.  The disc
number is 821 742-2 if anyone is interested.  The insert states that Credence
disbanded in 1972, and there hits were from 1967 to 1972, so I don't see
how it could be DDD (unless they all got together and re-mastered their
hit songs!).

On that note, does anyone know when the first Digital Recording was made,
and when the first Digital Recording was released (on analog media)?

Note that the disc has very little hiss, and they will probably get away
with passing it off as DDD even if it isn't.

					I'm so confused!
					-Dave

For some reason, the junkyard that is my mind  says the first released digital
album was in 1975 by RCA, artist was Melissa Manchester.  This is off the
top of my head with no supporting docs.  I cannot vouch for its validity.

Is my the also disk that is labeled AAD?  I list all the boring details about
the disk (it is not where I currently am) later.  

matt

The first popular digital recording was Ry Cooder's "Bob 'til You Drop".

As I am slooking at my CCR CD, it is AAD, made by Polygram, label is Fantasy.
Some numbers on the disk are (to the right of hole):

	+-----------+------------+
	|    AAD    |  FCD 623-  |
	|	    |    CCR 2   |
	+-----------+------------+
	|(180 002-2/|  Made in   |
	| 821 742-2 | W. Germany |
	|           |by PolyGram |
	+-----------+------------+


On the back of the disk is "821 742-2 01 #"
                            

matt

The only explanation I can think of is that the label was made up incor-
rectly as "DDD" and some unknown number of discs were pressed and issued
before the mistake was caught and corrected. This occasionally happens
in the book world (an example I can think of offhand is that there are a
few thousand copies of the first US edition of Tolkien's SILMARILLION
that lists one of his previous books as FATHER GILES OF HAM rather than
FARMER...). The DDD copies may well become collectors' items. I find it
odd, though, that there's been no mention of this in the audio press (or
has there?).

While I can believe that the songs may have been digitally remixed and/or
remastered, I can't believe that they were digitally recorded. The best
that the disc could possibly be is ADD.

--- jerry

Question for you all: whether it is AAD, ADD or DDD, it sounds as if you all
are satisfied with the audio quality. GREAT! How about the performances? As
a former DJ (1968 - 1970) I would love to have all the songs that are on that
disk on one, rather than having to buy several, but I really want the ORIGINAL
versions, not the "Gee we think it sounds better this way" stuff. For example,
SIMON AND GARFUNKLE'S GREATEST HITS substituted newer arrangements - many 
"live" for the old standards, much to my disappointment. Or maybe I am the
only one who has the "Gusto" label LP of CHUCK BERRY'S GREATEST HITS!!

					Bruce

Re: .16

Well, if it means anything, "Heard it Through the Grapevine" (or whatever
the actual title is, I don't have my disc with me) was somewhere over 11
minutes.  I believe that they are all the originals, and as previously
stated, it is probably an error that it is marked DDD.  The insert doesn't
say much, except pointing out when their albums were released, along with
making mention of some of the hits from those albums.  I also haven't checked
to see if the background hiss is more pronounced on some titles (which might
indicate different masters being used).

						-Dave

The background hiss does vary from track to track and some media (from 
the master) imperfections can also be heard a couple of times (not very
noticeable).  The insert implies that each track on the CD came from its
corresponding album.

Also I have seen other CCR albums showing up in local record stores (in LA).
(Willie and the Poor Boys, Cosmos Factory, etc)

matt

re .4 & .5 ( Longest-Playing CD )

Longer CD's are

Frankie Goes to Hollywood -- Welcome to the Pleasuredome

This was a double record album, but a single CD, and they substituted
a longer and better version of "Two Tribes", and made some other improvements.
Especially to the sound.  Anyway, the CD is 71 minutes long.

Bob Dylan -- Biograph

3 disks of Bob Dylan music over the past 20+ years, most of the best stuff,
quality better than I thought was possible for most of the older stuff, and
very good for the new stuff.  All 3 disks are just over 72 minutes long!
                                                 

I thought they had Beethoven's 9th symphony in mind when they were kicking
around how long to make CDs.  I think that's 76+ min.   

- M