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Created:Mon Feb 17 1986
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194.0. "ANALOG VS. DIGITAL" by NISYSE::HOLLAND () Fri Oct 11 1985 08:42

	I am just entering the market to purchase a cd player.
Well last night while looking the salesman told me not to buy
a certain deck because it was analog not digital. The digital deck
(sony) was a $100.00 more. Was this salesman just trying to get me
to buy a better deck or is there a big difference between
analog or digital?

Ken Holland
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194.2SPEEDY::LIONELFri Oct 11 1985 09:057
Giving the salesperson some credit, he may have been referring to the
filtering method used.  Digital filtering is, in theory, better, but I
think few people could tell the difference between two otherwise
well-designed players.  I would not pay $100 more just for digital
filtering; features make more difference.  The Sony players, though, are
very good.
				Steve
194.3FURILO::JOHNSONFri Oct 11 1985 09:0518
I would presume (assuming he was not a bozo) that we was referring to the
manner in which the player filters the output off the disc. Two methods
have been employed to filter the unwanted components from the final converted
output - multi-poled analog filters (after the DACs) or some sort of Digital
filter accompanied by a much less complicated analog filter at the end
of the signal path.

There have been many discussions concerning the pros and cons of each 
method.  Sony used to use multi-poled analog filters -  now on their 
third generation players they have begun using a digital scheme.

As far as what's better I personally believe the quality of the components
used is more important then the method.  Digital filtering is cheaper
(if the analog filters are done right) and therefore it is a preferred
method.  Given high quality components I believe you can get satisfactory
audio output from both methods.
                                                       
peter
194.4THORBY::MARRAFri Oct 11 1985 09:2021
   not in answer to the question but...
   
   I would heavily suggest learning as much about the CD theory as possible
   BEFORE talking to sales persons.  They (the sales persons) will try to
   talk you into buying anything they can sell you. Anything.  
   
   Pick up a couple of older audio/stereo review/high fidelity/digital audio/
   rags at the local library and read the articles about it.  You would need
   to go back about two years to get the theory, and then track the changes
   as the designs get better.  One really nice thing to look at is the style
   that Audio uses to test the CD players.  They use the same graphs for
   EACH cd player they review.  The best two are the single pulse test, and
   the square wave test.  Notice how the waves look as the technology gets
   better.  The first 'square waves' were no better that 200$ cartridge square
   waves. while now (4x oversample dig/ana filter) they come extreemly close
   to square.  The filtering can be seen in the pulse test.  the first ones
   'ring' for about a week, while the new ones ring very little.
   
   enjoy your shopping..
   
   				�dave�