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	The delay is bucks.  Actually the buck of the people that
	bought the record collection.  A CD release of the collection
	lowers the value of the record Collection.  And Mobile Fidelity
	has been getting heavily into the "collectability" of their
	"Limited Editions" lately.  The "Woodstock" CD set is an
	example.  They are putting out good stuff though....

	Abbey Road:  I heard a copy of the Abbey Road import.  It
	was ok, but I thought that the Mobile Fidelity record was
	quieter.  Also the lack of a gap between the last cut on
	first side and George's "Here Comes the Sun" is a little
	annoying.  They needed to add a few seconds there.  The
	two very different styles clash.

					Alan

I agree with the lack of gap problem on the Abbey Road album (I have
the import).  I wish that they had reversed the sides or something.
                                                     
						-Dave

I bought a copy of Abbey Road.  It cost $23.99 at Rockit Records in Nashua.
It came from Japan, manufactured by Toshiba for  EMI/Odeon.  It is clean
sounding and I didn't notice the gap problem.  The salesperson told me that
this import was $10 more costly than the normal CD because it is hard to
get because there are all kinds of legal battles over who owns which Beatles
recordings.  I was dumb enough to buy the only other Beatles CD available,
Beatles First.  All I can say about it is that it gives you a benchmark to
compare later recordings with their first.  They matured a lot!

Jack

I believe that the ONLY reason there is a markup is because the disk is form
Japan.   I will be there next week and will lEt everyone know the REAL price of 
a beatles cd.

Mike

I was told by one source that the Japanese are charging list prices for all
the CD's in the stores, probably due to the high demand.

						-Dave

Last spring when I was there the CD's were not noticably cheaper
than they are here.

The CD PLAYERS, though, were much cheaper.

HELP!!!!!!!!

I'm in Maynard, and I haven't found anyplace in the area that has the Abbey 
Road disk in stock. Can anyone help me find/purchase it?

Thanks.
-pd

Rockit Records in Nashua, NH had it in stock a week or so ago.  They sell
it for $23.99.

j

I bought mine at Rock'n Mania in Framingham a long time ago, I don't know
if they are still carrying it.  Give them a call, they will probably order
it for you if they don't have it in stock.

						-Dave

According to the people at Rock'N'Mania, the disc can no longer be sold legally
in this country because the US distribution rights for CD have not yet been
negotiated.  They said that anybody with a Japanese Abbey Road should hold
on to it because it is now a collector's item.

Well, after looking in a couple o' dozen stores over the last month or so, I 
finally found a single copy of "Abbey Road."  In contrast to other opinions 
expressed here, I thought the transition from "I Want You" to "Here Comes the 
Sun" was quite effective ... almost as much as the transition from "Black 
Magic Woman" to "Oye Como Va" on Santana's Abraxas album. The pause itself is 
exciting!

I agree that the "Beatles First" is a sham ... the Beatles only performed in 
about half the songs, and then mostly as backup for Tony Sheridan. This is an 
archival item for compulsive Beatles fans, but is not generally recommended.

Still waiting for the MFSL collection.
-pd

Rockit Records in Nashua has a copy of Abbey Road - $100.
			Steve

Q Audio (Cambridge, MA) has a copy of Abbey Road - $50.

-- Ward

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THE LEGAL ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED!! I have been looking for a copy of 
Abbey Road for a couple of months.  I found it at a store in the Village in
Manhattan about a week ago, but the owner of the store who is a friend of
mine (I buy alot of audiophile albums from him) told me that EMI and the 
Beatles have settled.  You can buy the Japanese copy in NY for about $100,
but hesuggested waiting...American copies of Beatles CDs should be available
this spring.  He even said a collectors boxed set is in the works, similar to 
the original masters set.  LETS HEAR IT FOR THE "EFFICIENT" WORKINGS OF OUR
LEGAL SYSTEM!!!  It took a long time, but I'm certain it will be worth it!!

Debbie

This was in the newspapers Nov 29, 1985. Note the final section about
Beatles CDs.

	- Rick
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          Better Hurry To Replace Old Beatles Albums

                               Los Angeles Times




               If you have been thinking about  replacing  those  old,
          worn-out copies of "Meet The Beatles" or "Revolver," you had
          better hurry.

               Capitol Records is notifying record distributors in the
          United  States that it is taking "final orders" on 10 of the
          label's early Beatles LPs.

               Does that mean the Beatles are no longer profitable?

               Hardly.   Some  industry  observers  believe  that  the
          Capitol  move  is  part of a plan to once again tap into the
          continuing interest in Beatles music.   As  soon  as  he  10
          albums  disappear  from  stores,  Capitol will bring out the
          seven original British versions of the  early  Beatles  LPs,
          they said.

               "Collectors will rush out and buy all the old  albums,"
          said  one  record  distributor here, who asked that his name
          not be used.  "And the same collectors will rush out and but
          the new albums."

               Don Zimmermann, president of  Capitol  Records,  denied
          that  the  switch-over  is  a  strategy to boost sales.  The
          purpose, he said, is to make Beatles album packages  uniform
          worldwide.

               The reason  for  the  confusion  is  that  Beatles  LPs
          through  1966's "Revolver" album were released on Parlophone
          Records in England, but were repackaged in  different  sales
          territories around the world.

               "Back in the early days, whatever seemed to make  sense
          in  any  particular  (worldwide  sales) territory was done,"
          Zimmermann said.

               In the United States, what made sense to Capitol was to
          remove  one  to  three tracks from the British LPs, and save
          these leftover songs for compilation albums like  "Yesterday
          ...   And Today." The Beatles complained bitterly about this
          action, which forced fans to buy an extra  three  albums  to
          get all the group's songs.

               Slated to disappear from record bins in  coming  months
          are   "Meet  the  Beatles,"  "The  Beatles'  Second  Album,"
          "Something New," Beatles '65," "The Early Beatles," "Beatles
          VI," "Help!," "Rubber Soul," "Yesterday ...  And Today," and
          "Revolver."
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               In their place will  be  the  Beatles'  original  seven
          British  albums:  "Please Please Me," "With the Beatles," "A
          Hard Day's Night,"  "Beatles  For  Sale,"  "Help!,"  "Rubber
          Soul," and "Revolver."

               Although  the  same  titles  were  used  for  the  U.S.
          albums,  the  British  versions  of  the  last three LPs had
          different song selections.

               Considering the group's well-documented anger over  the
          repackaging  of its material, some Beatles fans are bound to
          suspect that  the  new  move  by  Capitol  was  one  of  the
          conditions  set by Paul McCartney for returning to the label
          this month after several years at Columbia Records.

               Zimmermann  said  it  was  not  a  condition   set   by
          McCartney, not a gesture of welcome by the label.

               "That (the signing) had nothing to do with  what  we're
          doing," he said.  "We had been planning this for about three
          years; long before we were close to  any  negotiations  with
          Paul.   It  may well work out that way (as a welcome), which
          is very pleasing.  But it wasn't a consideration."

               Nor,  apparently,  did  McCartney's  signing  have  any
          direct  tie  to what Zimmermann said will be the forthcoming
          release of the Beatles' first compact discs  by  the  label.
          Capitol is reportedly very close to marketing the disc.

               First releases, Zimmermann said, will probably  include
          "Abbey Road" (which was available briefly this year on CD in
          Japan), the "White Album,"  "Sgt.   Pepper's  Lonely  Hearts
          Club  Band"  and the two compilation packages, "The Beatles:
          1962-1966" and "The Beatles:  1967-1970."

    Has anyone seen or heard the live in concert album by the Beatles.
    
    I'm told the CD sells for about $30.00 and the concert was recorded
    in Japan.

    This is probably the 1966 Budokan concert, a popular
    boot album for many years.  It seems things like this
    are more legal in Japan than they are here.
    
    If it's like the album, the sound quality is excellent,
    but the performance is terrible.  It does have an
    electric version of "Yesterday", probably the best (and
    most listenable) cut.
    
    Scott
    

    I purchased the CD mentioned in 100.16 and it is 2 concerts at Budokan
    Hall. Concert 1 is on June 30 1966, Concert 2 same place on 
    July 1,1966.
    
    Comments:
    
    Sound quality is OK
    There is an enormous amount of repitition .... both concerts (same
    songs)
    
    The CD is on the DOCUMENT record label 
    
    I payed $15.00 for it not the 29.50 that was asked.