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| 69.1 | Still no G&S | PDVAX::P_DAVIS | really SARAH::P_DAVIS | Thu Apr 10 1986 18:08 | 1 |
| Still nothing, eh? I'm waiting too.
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| 69.2 | D'Oyly Carte "Pirates ..." | PDVAX::P_DAVIS | really SARAH::P_DAVIS | Tue Apr 22 1986 12:13 | 7 |
| I saw a few copies of a 2 CD set of "The Pirates of Penzance" at
the Harvard Coop yesterday. It's an AAD recording on London Decca,
by the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company.
Needless to say, there's now one less copy.
So far, this is still the only G&S I've seen.
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| 69.3 | | PDVAX::P_DAVIS | really SARAH::P_DAVIS | Mon Apr 28 1986 18:30 | 5 |
| According to ads in Grammophone, a D'Oyly Carte recording of "The
Mikado" has also been released on London/Decca. I haven't seen it
in the U.S. yet.
-pd
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| 69.4 | Try Lechmere | MAGIC::HAGEL | A. R. Hagel ZKO2-2/R32 381-2536 | Fri Mar 13 1987 17:35 | 3 |
| You might want to try Lechmere in the Pheasent Lane Mall, they seem
to have a few CD issues by D'Oyly Carte.
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| 69.5 | Mikado and a couple others are available | BAVIKI::GOOD | Michael Good | Mon Mar 16 1987 12:34 | 8 |
| The Mikado and a couple of others (Pirates? Gondoliers?) are available
at most stores with a decent classical selection - The Coop and Newbury
Comics both had them in Harvard Square, for instance. These are the
Royston Nash / D'Oyly Carte versions. I've read that some earlier
D'Oyly Carte versions have been released but have not seen them
anywhere yet.
Michael
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| 69.6 | humbug | DSSDEV::CHALTAS | | Mon Mar 16 1987 17:28 | 10 |
| I heard the new D'Oyly Carte / Nash disk of 'Mikado' on the radio
this weekend. It's OK, but it contains music only, no dialogue.
This makes it fit on one CD, but you can't follow the plot.
Since (in my humble opinion), Sullivan's music is little more than
icing on the cake of Gilbert's words, I wouldn't buy the disk.
(I wouldn't buy "Die Zauberfl�te" without dialogue either)
Harumph!
George
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| 69.7 | Yes I've got them on my list... | MERLYN::BILLMERS | Meyer Billmers, AI Applications | Tue Mar 17 1987 13:03 | 1 |
| But the true Savoyard would have *memorized* the plot anyway, nyet?
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| 69.8 | who needs a 2nd trombone anyway? | DSSDEV::CHALTAS | | Thu Mar 19 1987 08:46 | 13 |
| True, and the True Savoyard would have also memorized the
*music*, so he wouldn't buy the disk at all, nyet?
The point is, that I find the words (including dialogue) to be
by far the more interesting part of the work. The music is
quite secondary -- necessary, but not as important. I suspect
that Mr. Gilbert could have written some delightful plays on
his own. Mr. Sullivans music (for example his Irish Symphony),
is a crashing bore.
George
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| 69.9 | The second fiddle does! | MERLYN::BILLMERS | Meyer Billmers, AI Applications | Thu Mar 19 1987 13:04 | 10 |
| Yea, but the way I sing (hum, whistle, ...) if I subject myself to my own
memory of the music it is torturous.
I agree that the best part of G&S is their delightfully dry-witted humor.
But the music makes that so much more listenable. You wouldn't really rather
just have CD records of Gilbert plays, now would you?
I find it a pity that they couldn't have released Mikado both ways; a single
disc music-only version and a double disk version, perhaps filled with
something short. Like they did with West Side Story.
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| 69.10 | They were both forgettable | SSGVAX::LUST | Reality is for those that can't handle drugs | Mon Mar 23 1987 10:05 | 19 |
| RE: .6 & .8
The sad truth is that neither of them could aspire to greatness
alone. W.S. Gilbert did indeed write several plays which are generally
as well-received as Arthur Sullivan's symphonies. Sullivan's greatest
claim to fame other than the G&S operettas is "Onward Christian
Soldiers", while Gilbert isn't known for anything else.
It would appear that Gilbert's words are so memorable precisely
because they were written as a foil to Sullivan's music -- together
they are wonderful, by themselves they tend to fall flat. I
particularly enjoy the musical caricatures of other composers (Handel,
Rossini, etc.) but not of and by themselves, words and music here
I find to be logically inseperable.
Dirk
P.S. I wouldn't buy an orchestral-only version of "Die Zauberfloete"
either.
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| 69.11 | | SARAH::P_DAVIS | Peter Davis, X-NYer | Mon Mar 23 1987 11:53 | 12 |
| There is a ballet, "The Pineapple Poll", which is essentially a
compilation of Sullivan's music. I believe it was done by Charles
Mackeras, and there's a recording of available on CD. I can check
the label/order number if anyone's interested.
I don't agree that Sullivan's music falls flat by itself. I think
most of it is, at the least, very evocative, and some of the melodies
are quite beautiful. My favorite is "The Sun Whose Rays ..." from
"The Mikado," but there are others as well.
If you listen to "The Pineapple Poll," you'll get a good taste
of Sullivan's music out of it's usual context.
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| 69.12 | More Sullivan without Gilbert | KATYA::FISHER | Bill Fisher | Tue Apr 28 1987 12:58 | 11 |
| I just picked up a CD containing 9 of the G&S overtures and one Sullivan
Concerto (DiBallo). It is on Nimbus 5066 and is performed by the Scottish
Chamber Orchestra.
It is a beautifully sounding disk that I would highly recommend for
anyone who is into Sullivan's music. The engineering is very good
except for a extraneous noise in "Ruddigore" (I think it is the sound
of the pages being turned). The only major overture missing is Mikado.
They also have a minor mistake on the program listing: Pinafore is
swapped with Iolanthe.
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