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Tell your friend to listen to the Nakamichi before he buys one of
the others.  I think he'll be impressed.

/dave

Try the Yamaha CD-2, and compare it to the ReVox unit.  I doubt the extra
granola is really necessary.

Brian CYGNUS::LAMBERT

Unfortunately, the granola appears necessary. In the demo I heard, the
Nak nuked the Yamaha.

/dave

Re: .2

He's compared the Yahmaha to the Revox and the Revox came out on top.  
Additionally he's tried the Revox against the Kyosara and thinks he
likes the Kyosara better.  He said he couldn't skip it no matter what
he did with it.  Additionally he took the cover off and said it was a
work of art.   (Although the Revox is also nothing to sneeze at).

Steve

He hasn't said anything about the Nakamechi so I'll pass the info on.

Thanks... Keep the comments coming.

I have a Sony CDP-400 ($700) which is the same unit as the 610-ES except
it is silver and not black.

It has a full function remote. Data connector (un documented) on the rear.
Separate attenuator for the headphone jack. Two sets of line outs. One
has a volume control. The volume can be controlled via the remote.

It has index support and most every other bell I could find.

I love it.

(lynx)

	Compact Disc Players are like Cartridges, the differences between
	them (at the higher end) are the differences between what you can 
	hear (and tollerate) and what you can afford.  Of course the
	psychilogical need for a 'best' piece of equipment is a LARGE
	role in the game.

	I've heard lots of people say that the NAK is no better than the
	YAM.  But have any of these people spent a week with the both
	of them useing each one each day endlessly??  I seriously doubt it.

	To acuratly tell which piece of equipment is better you MUST take
	it home, listen to it in YOUR environment through YOUR system with
	YOUR CD's or whatever.  When I bought my equalizer (which has since
	been put back into the box and into storage - got sick of it)
	I took home three different ones for a week each.  I started with
	the Nikko EQ-10 then the SAE Parametric and finally the Sound-
	craftsmen, which I kept (and is for sale if anyone is interested).

	The Nikko didn't let me adjust separate gain contolls;
	The SAE was too noisy and too much of a pain in the ass;
	The Soundcraftsmen was just right..

	What I mean here is that you cannot tell what a piece of equipment
	sounds like by the specs or by listening in the store.
	You gotta take it home!!!!!!!

				dave
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Well, it sounds like the extra granola is worth it.  I hope that CD machines do
not go the way of turntables.  What I mean by that is, "You have to have a Linn"
or "You need to stick 150 pounds of silly putty inside, and place it on a
wobbly table for the best results"...

Just what sound difference can be detected in a ReVox Vs. Yamaha test anyway?
Does the better unit actually image better or present a more solid sound stage,
or do the differences center around a cleaner sound?  I'd love to know.  I find
the sound of my Yamaha to be very good, and I can't imagine it sounding any
better.

Brian CYGNUS::LAMBERT

The Nak has a cleaner, airier high end. It has none of the time/phase
anomalies of some machines.  It's image is broad and seamless (not very
deep, though). 

I have had it at home now for 2 nights and put a total of 10 CDs through it
over and over willl comparing it to every other player I could beg or borrow.

But I wouldn't even think of undertaking this mess in a store. I need to listen
at home with my system to understand what's really happening.

Linn??  They don't know what state of the art in turntable design is, and
yes, CDs are headed down the same path of nameplate hype.

/dave

	re .8 (sorry i missed the name)

	I would be highly interested in your experience with the NAK.
	What did you find better/worse than which cd player.

	This machine sounds like the one i'd most likely get after i buy
	my house next april.

				dave
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see note 56 in this very file.  the nak is the best i've heard.

/dave

re .-(several)
How much do you want for the equalizer?

(lynx)

	It was 250 new so I guess about 100 should do the trick.
	Has all packaging, manuals, and used thrice equalizing record.

	There is really nothing wrong with it - no added noise or hiss,
	I just do'nt like EQ's any more...

				dave
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