Conference marvin::uk_music

    REM also rumoured I read.
    
    BTW - Neil Young has already played stuff from Sleeps with Angels live
    - he did say he wouldnt play 'hey hey' again, but he did at the Bridge
    benefit shows.  I think.
    
    Mikef

    
    might you be persuaded this year Mike ? space on the Wagon-train is
    going fast !
    
    G

    Yeah - finance and house permitting (just brought a white elephant),
    I'll be going.  I'm worried that these could be the last days of the
    festivals, and opportunities to walk around in silly hats may be
    slipping away...
    
    Mikef

try ascot.

hth

    
    Mike, bring the White Elephant with you %^) someone (dressed in Orange,
    and with a shaved head I believe) turned up at the gate last year with
    a Sacred Cow, after a bit of discussion it was allowed in - so why not
    an Elephant ?
    
    G
    

    REM have denied that they will be appearing at Glastonbury this year.
    Previous US commitments apparently.

    
    My friend who works at the festival each year got his 'call up' papers
    at the w/e (it's on for the 23/24/25 June, for those who didn't know).
    The letter he got says Michael Eavis has been quite ill in the last few
    months, but it's still on... no mention of bands (as usual) and no
    details yet of ticket/security arrangements or capacity. Mike (the
    friend) thinks they'll stick with same the style of tix as the last two
    years, although the Police want better control of passouts - their
    latest idea is to photograph each person needing a passout against a
    date/time background ! who's gonna pay for that I wonder ? and what
    happens if you go back to a different gate ? 
    
    No news yet on the stage either, they were supposed to be building a
    new Pyramid, but I'm sure there'd have been pictures of it by now if it
    was ready....
    
    Graham

    If anyone has an address or telephone number for the organisers 
    could they post it here, as I may be interested in helping out
    at the fest. this year.

    
    most of the 'helping out' is organised via CND/Greenpeace. I have a
    friend who works at the festival every year on Communications, -
    coordinating staff on Gates, etc - He got notification a few weeks
    back, asking him to confirm availablity and giving dates for meetings
    etc.
    
    I'll see him this evening, so if you like I'll finds out who you need
    to get in touch with - you may neded to be a member of CND/GreenPeace
    tho.
    
    Alternatively, you can get in as a litter picka - I think entry is
    free, melas and a field to camp in are provided, and you get a rota to
    work to which basically means filling x bin-liners then the rest of the
    time is your own - definitely recommended if money is short.
    
    The confusion over the CND/GreenPeace thing, is because it always used
    to be CND but GreenPeace seemed to take over the organisational aspects
    a couple of years back.
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    Graham

    
    I asked my friend about helping out - He's not an authority on this,
    but he has been doing it for a number of years - he says your best bet,
    would be to approach your local OXFAM organisation...
                                                                           
    They use OXFAM volunteers because they're used to doing unpaid work,
    and can generally be trusted. If there are any problems then there is
    obviously some come-back via the local OXFAM organisation.
    
    Graham
    

    Stone Roses are confirmed as the Saturday night headliners for this
    years fest.
    
    mikef

    One hopes not...
    
    mikef

    Wonder if Robert Plant will be on vocals...
    
    Andy
    

>    Wonder if Robert Plant will be on vocals...
    
    Nah Andy, Derek St Hubbins and a drummer who blows up.
    
    barry.
          
       

    Also confirmed - The Cure, Simple Minds (?), PJ HArvey.
    
    mikef

    

>>>    Also confirmed - The Cure, Simple Minds (?), PJ HArvey.
    
    			^^^^^^^^
    
    much tho' I like the band, I do hope they bring better weather with
    them this time round... still, the sight of hundreds of Cure fans
    wandering around in the mud for two days did have a certain comic aspect...
               
    BTW. at this rate demand for Tix will be *very* high - any news on when
    they're available ??
    
    Graham who hasn't seen a music paper in a while..
    
    

    No news on when tix go on sale yet, but I imagine they will mostly have
    gone by lunchtime when they do...
    
    
    mikef

    
    Ordered our tix today, the recorded message is a bit of a nuisance but
    otherwise okay.
    
    On the Band front, it'll be interesting to see the Ozrics on the main
    stage, I'm used to seeing them in small venues (like big tents) with
    just a couple of hundred people !
    
    We intend to be in Glastonbury for breakfast on the Wednesday, then
    hopefully get one of the site landrovers to tow our trailer in for us -
    it beats dragging it the last half mile or so...
    
    To mark the 25th anniv, we're thinking of replacing our flag poles with
    a helium balloon this year - the flags and lights can be hung of the
    ropes holing it down instead - and Bugsy and Dunc are still trying to
    sort out a Laser and Generator to take with us.
    
    I still haven't heard how many tickets there are this year, does anyone
    else know ??
    
    G
    

    
    Has anyone received their Glastonbury tix yet ? I got mine 3 days after
    ordering, by recorded delivery. However, they're not the numbers that
    the I was told I would get, is this going to cause a problem ??
    
    G.

    Yes, I think it will cause a problem, it sounds like you have been sent
    my tickets by mistake.  send them on down to me and I'll look after
    them...
    
    mikef(still trying to persuade his SO that she does not want to go...)

    
    Mike, they're on their way....
    
    How do I get my tickets then ?
    
    Have you told Karen that all those strange folk from Leek are going ?
    that should put a stop to any ideas she has of going this year %^)
    
    G. 

    
    	Okay here's a stupid question - I take it when you say my SO you 
    are talking bout your wife or girlfriend - but what does SO stand for.
    

    Sorry - creeping Americanisms...
    
    SO = Significant Other.  in my case, wife.  
    
    Mikef

    Any of you guys know what the line-up is yet ?
    
    I arrive back in England the weekend before the festival, my ticket is 
    waiting for me and I'm itching to know what fun awaits me.
    
    Any details entered in here (high-lights would be fine) will be 
    gratefully received. If you can find me on sight and sober me up, I'll 
    be happy to buy you a beer !!
    
    Thanks in anticipation...

Mudlarks..fear not technology has come to the rescue. A web page exists.

http://www.crg.cs.nott.ac.uk/~nlc/glast/glast.html


Peace,

Stuart

    
    thanks Stuart !
    
    looks pretty interesting, are you going too ?
    
    Graham

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>    thanks Stuart !
    
>    looks pretty interesting, are you going too ?
    
>    Graham



     I think I'll have to pass on that...what with the arthritis etc.


     Stuart

    
    a newsflash on the Web Page says The Cure may be pulling out of Sunday
    night to be replaced by Led Zeppelin with Jason Bonham on drums !
    
    G

    HOW DO YOU ACCESS THIS WEB PAGE ??!!
    
    J

    see .26
    
    of course you'll need acess to Mosaic or lynx or some-such tool to be
    able to access the WWW first of all.
    
    Graham

    Good news...I'm now going to this years festival.  Anyone else apart
    from Graham going?  
    
    mikef

    
    John Squire has broken his collar-bone and shoulder blade in a fall
    form his mountain bike, so the Stone Roses will not be appearing at the
    festival after all....
    
    G.

    Orbital have been confirmed as guests on the main stage for saturday
    night - and will probably  become the headliners if the Stone Roses
    stay away.
    
    This is good news after last years blistering set by Orbital (hot
    contender for best gig of all time ever according to Volume ;-) ).
    
    mikef

    
    
    >This is good news after last years blistering set by Orbital (hot
    >contender for best gig of all time ever according to Volume ;-) ).
    
    In the finest of festival traditions, I have to say I don't remember
    a thing. ;^)
    
    barry.
    
    

    
>>>    In the finest of festival traditions, I have to say I don't remember
>>>    a thing. ;^)
    
    
    ...nor me, I was in a 'field of my own' at the time - or at least thats
    what my mates told me on Sunday afternoon !
    
    The Shamen instead of Leftfield  too....
    
    g.

    
    ...also, the Stone Roses still want to play the festival. John Squire
    is seeing a doctor again today to see if it'll be possible.
    
    If John can't make it I know someone who could stand in for him....
    
    Graham

This year we are going to be driving down to Glastonbury for the first 
time. At the moment we are looking at two options. One is to drive down
on the Wednesday night and arrive at the site at around 8 on Thursday morning.
The other option is to leave early Thursday morning and arrive at the site 
around 5 on Thursday afternoon. What I would like to know is what sort of delays
can we expect if we arrive at these times.
    
Last year we flew down to Birmingham and got a lift to Glastonbury. We arrived
at the site at around 11 PM then spent about 4 hours in a traffic jam.


Cheers
Allan 
    

    I strongly urge you to go on Wednesday evening because on Thursday
    the traffic becomes horrendous (not to mention the smell) If you go 
    on Wednesday there is much less of a trek to the campsite from the car
    park.

    
    Definitely Wednesday night - the earlier the better. We're usually
    there from breakfast time on Wednesday, by Thursday lunchtime the place
    is really beginning to fill up. 
    
    How many of you are going anyway ? we'll be in the field between the NME
    stage and the Jazz stage (around 2h,3.5v on the Glastonbury Web Page
    Map) - roughly 50-100yds off the railway track - come and look us up if
    you like, although how much sense you get out of us will depend on how
    late you leave it %^). There should be a couple of aircraft type lights,
    a yin&yang type flag and SYF flag on a pole above our camp, Mike Fiddler
    will probably be with us too. 
    
    Graham 
    
    BTW, make sure you arrive from Glastonbury, is you trty to drive in
    from the other side you usually get sent down a one-way system of
    single track roads & lanes which is much slower.
    

    I'm trotting along on thursday morning, and hopefully approaching from
    the south, it shouldnt be too horrible then.  Of course, the earlier
    you arive, the further you are from the car park exit, so the longer it
    takes you to get out on monday...
    
    mikef  

    Page and Plant will appear at the fest on the 25th, according to the
    NME...
    
    mikef

    ...also in the NME, a list of which sets will be on tv/radio.  Mark
    Radcliffe will broadcast his show on thursday night from the site, with
    Julian Cope as a guest.  With any luck the archdrude will hang around
    for one of his vague acoustic sets. 
    
    mikef

    Hmmm. Worst Glastonbury queuing experience anyone? 1987 for us. Started
    in a country lane at 9:45 on the Thursday evening and ended up in a
    muddy field at 7:00 next morning. Last year was okay, about 3 hours on
    Thursday afternoon and a band called the French Funk Federation were
    queuing behind our car. A groovily attired mob you could say. 
      
    I'm not going this year and I'm now suffering sever bouts of angst
    as the date draws nearer. If Eavis is hosting a 26th next year then 
    I'm definitely going with an 8 year and 5 year old in tow... and they
    can look after me. ;^)
                                                                  
    barry.

    
    all day to get out in 1993 - 7+ hours to travel the 1 mile to the
    Road... Last year we sort of beat the system, this year hopefully we'll
    do the same.....
    
    Graham
    
    BTW can we have a quick head count/name check to see who's going ?
           

    re-1...can I follow you out?
    
    I'm going (unless I throw a sulk).  We ought to have a  UK music at
    Glastonbury photo, and maybe turn it into a GIF.
    
    mikef

    
    you should be able to follow us out okay, just a matter of looking like
    you know what you're doing and where you're going... still we're not
    even there yet !
    
    I'm all for a UK_MUSIC at Glastonbury Photo, If we get one set up, I'll
    get it scanned when we get back (I now know how to work the scanner -
    honest! thanks to Martin).
    
    G.
    
    BTW, have you got any Tarpaulins or Groundsheets you could take ??
    

There's exciting, innit!  A little UK_MUSIC adventure!  You'll find me throwing 
roses at Bjork at the Reading festival should anyone be attending.......missed 
the opportunity for Glasto, and Phoenix (not bad line-up this year) is on the 
British Grand Prix weekend.

    re .39,.40
    
    Thanks for the traveling info. This year there are nine of us going
    down. We normaly camp up from the circus tent in one of the fields with
    the pylons right at the fence. Been there for the last 3 years and
    havent had anything nicked so will probably go there again. Our tents
    are non descript bluey greeney things so I doubt youll find us although
    we always seem to end up in the Krishna tent at around 2 am for some
    serious Hari Ramma.
    
    Cheers
    Allan

    
    Mike, just got your mail but we can't get e-mail out of the building
    at the moment, so I thought I'd reply here instead as most of it's
    relevant....
    
    I take my camera every year, it's safe enough as long as you don't let
    it out of your sight ! and the case is always handy for carrying things
    in.... 
    
    We'll have a few small stoves between us for a brew, but probably
    nothing more elaborate than that - the food stalls, cafe's etc start
    opening from Wednesday onwards so you won't starve, just bring your
    favourite tea or coffe and a mug - actually, I suppose 'Cup-a-Soup'
    would be more appropriate given the Wolver'ampton connection %^)
    
    As far as parking goes, I'm not sure you'll get much choice, I think
    you just get diverted all over Somerset until you arrive in the field
    they're currently using - I do remember 5 or 6 years ago that the car
    parks to the East were a long way off, we had a twenty minute walk to
    the gate !
    
    Maureen hasn't mentioned anything yet about the CAD system, I may
    find out more tonight.
    
    Graham 
    

    
    Mike, once again we can't get e-mails out of the building and I don't
    have a VMS mail address for you...
    
    Weather's looking great - keeping out of the sun will be the biggest
    problem. Beer prices aren't too bad (I reckon �2/pint or less this
    year) but you get stuck with whateva they're selling and you have to
    queue up, if you take your own you get to choose and it stays pretty cool
    under the trailer - probably cooler than the stuff they'll be
    selling...
    
    See you Thursday lunchtime, have a good trip !
    
    G.

>    Mike, once again we can't get e-mails out of the building and I don't
>    have a VMS mail address for you...
    
How about that string of characters in the top left-hand corner of his last 
note?!

g

    
    I heard at the w/e that Pulp have been confirmed as replacements for
    the Stone Roses on Saturday, and contrary to earlier rumours (probably
    started by me !) The Cure will be playing.
    
    Graham 
    

>>> How about that string of characters in the top left-hand corner of his last 
>>>  note?!
    
    ..oooops ! I was trying to decipher it from his All-in-a-mess mail
    address, still Notes seems to be faster anyway, and is related to this
    topic %^)
    
    G.

    Apparently Warrington is as b*ggered as CHEFS.
    
    
    hth,
    Matt.

    Well....I'm looking forward to seeing the Cure...(sorry Graham..).
    
    Just starting to get the Glastonbury vibe together now.  Ommmmmmmmmmm
    
    
    mikef  
    

    
    Mike, I'm looking forward to seeing them as well - they were great last
    time too (apparently) - I think the rumour startyed because the
    Guitarist (or maybe Bassist ?) quit a few weeks ago...
    
    G.

    re-1
    
    Thats about normal for the Cure...
    
    mikef

    Pulp have been confirmed as the headliners for saturday night.
    
    Looks like Saturday n Sunday are going to be wet n cold...I'm off to
    Tescos to stock up on binliners (essential festival fashion statement).
    
    mikef

    Apparently, Martin Gilks, the drummer from the sadly defunct Wonder
    Stuff, joined The Cure to become their drummer, he left after a week
    due to the chemical excesses of Mr Smith & Co.

    >due to the chemical excesses of Mr Smith & Co.
    
    what, like too much make up n hair gel?
    
    :-)
    
    mikef

    I am now the proud owner of a gaudy bright green bum bag in which to
    store my wordly goods this weekend...so keep an eye out for me on tv!
    mikef
    

    Funky Mike Fish said that this weekend was going to be lovely and
    sunny - temperatures up to 25C and blue skies. Mid you, he said there
    wasn't going to be a hurricane....

    Not sure if I would prefer the rain...the heat gets to be a drag and
    makes the loos unbearable...better take a clothes peg I guess.  
    
    mikef

    The numbers 2 and 8 sprang to mind when Polly Harvey appeared on TV
    wearing a pink cat-suit, gold stilettos, and the merest hint of
    eyeshadow.

Quite frightening, I thought.  The crowd didn't seem to know what to make of 
it...

    All the other DEC Glasto contingent are, I presume, in a state of
    "recovery"? Ha! Ha! It's always a bit of a culture shock coming
    back into work after 3 days in paradise_without_the_toilets.
    
    barry. 

    Culture shock....yup...!   Just being indoors is hard to cope with.
    
    mikef
    

    
  >>  Culture shock....yup...!   Just being indoors is hard to cope with.
    
    ... I haven't got used to it yet, I slept in my tent in the Garden last
    night as a sort of therapy.
    
    G. 

I hope you lot have had a jolly good wash. I , for one , don't want any
of those unappealing hippy habits permeating my work areas.

Stuart

    Were the organised gangs of thieves at work this year? Silly question.
    Or should I say is Eavis doing anything apparent in trying to curb
    this problem? More steward presence per camping area would'nt be a 
    bad idea without wanting the whole thing to become too officiated.
     

    I imagine there was a lot of thieving, although I didnt come across
    anything directly.  There were quite a few stewards wandering through
    the camping areas at odd times...but as I'm sure you know, its a
    massive job to 'police' the campsites.  
    
    mikef

    
    Without going over the top on security, I think they do as much as they
    can. There are lock-ups for people with valuables, and there are a lot
    of security staff walking around who can be called on if needed, the
    big problem is that tents are easy to get into - whether you use the
    door or not. Apart from a half bottle of Jack Daniels which was lifted
    from someones pocket, our group didn't have anything nicked apart from
    a lot of wood which we'd spent a couple of hours collecting.
    
    Two or three security guards wandered through our camp at about 2am one
    morning with a few unhappy campers, they seemed to be going to look at
    someones tent - presumably because something had been stolen. We also
    found a small rucksack and a few clothes scattered around one morning,
    as though someone had thrown them away because they weren't worth
    anything having nicked them from a tent.
    
    I've just read the Festival Review I bought for Mike yesterday morning,
    and in the middle is a picture of the site. It doesn't cover all of it
    (you can see our camp on it thanks to an 18' x 24' tarp we used as
    a shelter) but it gives an idea of how big the whole thinge is - perhaps
    Mike could scan it and then those of you who haven't been could see the
    bits they don't show on the telly.
    
    Graham
    
    

    If I can find a scanner I will...I'm still having trouble staying
    awake...
    
    Does it normally take this long to recover?  bleeaaaghghghghhhhhh
    
    If anyone wants to capture the essence of Glastonbury, I still have
    some dirty socks in my rucksack.  
    
    mikef

    Everyone who went to Glastonbury (and those who watched on telly), who
    was the best/worst act you saw?
    
    I watched the highlights on the telly, and I thought the
    Prodigy/Supergrass/Pulp were v.good and PJ Harvey useless.

    I have to disagree about PJ - her set was one of the live highlights
    for me...
    
    mikef

    re-1
    
    Oh, sorry, but I thought Pulp were floundering also.  I seriously wish
    I'd gone to see Banco de Gaia instead.  Apologies.
    
    mikef

    
    Banco de Gaia were the best of the festival for me, with Nik Turner on
    the Jazz stage and John Otway in the Cabaret Tent also worthy of mention
    - his act is predictable (I see it every year) but it's guaranteed quality.
    
    Some geezer on the Jazz stage was 'worst of festival' if there is such
    a thing, he was ranting on about changing the world and this and that
    on Friday afternoon - which is fair enough, each to their own and all
    that - but for some reason they let him have another go on Saturday ! I
    wouldn't have minded too much except that we could hear everything on
    the Jazz stage from our camp, and when we weren't at the camp or
    watching other bands we were at 'Don's Bar' - and yes, you've guessed
    it this is in the Jazz field, almost spoiled me Guinness he did...
    
    Graham.
    
    BTW, I'm not cricising what he was rapping/ranting about, just that he
    wasn't very good at it.

re. Peej;


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