Conference marvin::uk_music

Oh yeah,

If anyone listens to Kiss FM tonight, to MasterMix 8.00pm you'll get to
know what going on.





David


"Danny Rampling's on MY radio.."

    
    Check out Pete Tong on the "Essential Selection" on Radio 1 Friday 
    nights 7 -> 9pm. Also Sunday 8 -> 9pm. Live in the central Scotland
    area, Radio Forth "stepping out " with Tom Wilson Sat nights 5 -> 8pm.
    
    

    Oh yeah,
    
        Forgot to add..
    
        Watch out for TTF..Real Love
                      Bassheads..Back to the old school
                      Terrorize..Just a feeling

    I do like some Rave but the best I've heard in ages is the Bassheads -
    Is There Anybody Out There? - must be one of the best dance records of
    ALL time!
    
    				stuart
    

I really really like some techno stuff I've heard. But the trouble with the
rave scene, speaking as yer traditional pop fan who's been brought up to 
focus his attention on bands and personalities, is that all the rave artists
are so *faceless*. There are a myriad of names who exist for only one record
and then disappear again. Plus there aren't that many distinct personalities
anyway.

The KLF and the Shamen do have personality and continuity, but I guess they're
not mainstream rave artists.

For someone who's not clubbing it the whole time, it's very hard to get a grip 
on what's happening. Of course if you're not clubbing it, why bother? Because
some rave records are just dead dead good.

Incidentally, there's a good ravey bit in "Basic Instinct".


Rod

    
    Mr Mod,
    
    The title of this conference is UK_MUSIC, 
                                           ^^^^^
    which surely means that this topic should not be in here. Please delete.
    
    
    Pete Tong? Evidence that God has a sick sense of humour.
    
    
    	

    
    Re:6 "Leaving... the sooner the better"
    
    Keep your "please deletes'" to yourself. SOME people actually
    like this kind of music. If they didnt there wouldn't be a 
    note on it.
    
    
    
    
    

    re .-1
    
    Okay. Educate me. WHY do you like it? I like a fair cross-section of
    musical styles myself but I CANNOT see the appeal of this particular
    one. IMHO it has nothing going for it at all...
    
    SOME people like breeding dogs but I wouldn't expect to see a note on
    it in THIS conference because it has bugger all to do with music. I
    view THIS topic in the same light....
    

    
      RE:8
    
      Get a grip, this note is for people who like 
      Rave for there own reasons, not for a slagging match. Your
      entitled to your opinion but it has nothing to do with the topic.
      Im not going to explain why I like it for your benefit..If you
      CANNOT see the appeal go into another conference and burst their
      brains... Very boring...hurry up and leave.
    
    
    
    
      Anyway....
    
              If you can get radio Forth on your trany, tune in on
       Tuesday night at 10pm for The Time Frequeny & Oceanic, recorded
       LIVE last week at The Calton, Edinburgh. Was there myself
       and TTF stole the  show, even though they are the smaller of the two.
       
    
    
    
    
      
    
    
    
     

Any scene that can provoke a reaction like .6 and .8 has got to have something
going for it.

    Behave, unruly lot!
    
    One of the best rave mixers around must be Psychic TV, who 
    now seem to be spending most of their time in San Francisco. 

    Don't rush out and buy any old PTV record though, 'cos theyre 
    a versatile lot, and some of it's a bit strange.

    Try out "Tune In (Turn It On)" for starters, and thats an oldie.

    Dave

    Andy,  you should know better than to argue with this lot.  It's in one
    ear and out the other.  Just like the so called music that they listen
    to.  The term Rave and Crap have just about reached the same meaning in
    the dictionary.  It's just a shame that they can't see that they are
    all at the mercy of the corporate record companies.  They think that
    it's dead "underground"  but this is on of the largerst money spinning
    trends since punk.  Not all dance music is crap,  but most rave is. 
    Basic on the beat drum patterns and tonic triads pumping out so that
    minimal thought is needed to dance to it or even to make it.
    
    IMHO
    

    Hi,
    
>Incidentally, there's a good ravey bit in "Basic Instinct".

    Haven't seen the movie, yet, but according to Oliver Adams it's Rave the
    Rhythm, by Channel X. Who's Oliver Adams? He's the producer of the song
    ;-).

    He's from Belgium, by the way. The home of a LOT of great rave music.

    Andy ;^)

    
    
    Your replies and boring HAVE reached the same meaning.
    Its all getting a bit pathetic..probably like YOUR
    music tastes... 
    
    
    The Earthquaker... June 13th..Near Ayr..15,000 ravers cant be wrong.
    
    IMHO
    

    My musical tastes are just that.   Musical and with taste.
    
    Musically,  Rave music has to be the lowest form.  There is no real
    musical structure and certainly no composition.  Alot of it also walks
    a very dodgy line between  copyright and just plain theft.   It is
    about time a law was passed banning sampling to the extent that it is
    being used.  I know that it is an old subject and has been explored
    many times,  but I feel that it is getting beyond a joke now.  If you
    like to dance so much then why not listen to the original beats by AWB
    and James Brown  as opposed to second and third hand copies of the
    sample.  I sincerely hope that Talk Talk win the suit with alot of
    sampling co's  as well with EMI for screwing up their songs.  
    
    Many of you say that the programmers are really clever etc.  But wise
    up lads n lasses.  You can buy the mixes that they use from mail order
    companies in the back of any music paper.  There ain't nothing clever
    about that.  
    
    On the subject of D.J.'s at raves.  I saw D J Mikee (yep M I K doubwwl
    E) last year,   as I wanted to get an unbiased view of the Rave Scene. 
    He was complete shit,   all he did was shout two or three times into a
    mike.  He never mixed live records together,  and sat down for the
    whole GIG.  He also did about a half hour slot.  If I ever went to see
    a band and they only did half and hour then I would demand my money
    back etc.   I love dancing just as much as the next bloke,  but I would
    say that I get more of a groove out of a decent band or a great club
    that plays songs with more than just a crap four back beat all bloody
    night,  and doesn't go under the guise of a rave. 
    
    Takin it down, 
    
    M C Nigel.  (not an old boring fart,  but an angry young man who is
    just about pissed of with naffing "Rave" music for sixteen year old
    kids to get pissed and stoned for the first time - come on guys you
    aint the first people to ever take mind expanding drugs,  don't seem to
    expand your mind that much does it.?)

    
    RE: .15, .16
    
    Come on... I know it's hot today, and everyone's tetchy and irritable,
    but let's try and be polite, eh ?
    
    I've done more moderating in this conference in the last three days
    than I have done all year.
    
    Trevor

Wow!  

What an emotive lot we have in here!

I said this before I know but we do have new "noters" in here:

Music is different because PEOPLE are different.
Us it how you want, enjoy it for your OWN reasons.
Prejudice appears in many forms dont' it!

Music is around in many forms and people get out of it what they wish,
how they wish.  Why don't those who can't get their minds round these 
simple concepts stick  to noting in the notes containing the music that they 
like.  Channel some of that energy into something positive eh!

---------

Has anyone heard the new Queen Latifah album?  
The single :"How do I love thee" is the freshest thing I've heard for ages. 
I want to find out what the rest is like.
I heard it played at Zatopeks on friday and in Trade on Saturday and it 
rips through the  dance floor like a storm.

If anyone sees Shaun Christopher billed live somewhere GO!  This kind of
stuff doesn't often transpose to live PA well but  I saw her at Caio Baby
at the Fridge on Wednesday and this woman can burst ear drums at 80ft!


david


 

    Right on dudes...There are only two types of music - stuff you like and
    stuff you don't like.  Nothing else matters.  Dance music?  In context,
    its unbeatable.  
    
    Mikef 

    re .19
    
    Well said that light in the dark. I quite like dance music, not enough
    to be able to name bands or go out and buy records, but a world without
    variety is a dull place. And for me, it it the effect the music has that
    counts, not the techniques used to produce it, be they simple on
    complicated.
    
    Balders

Ahhhhhhh voices of sweet sanity!

    Re .19,
    
�   stuff you don't like.  Nothing else matters.  Dance music?  In context,
                           --------------------
                                               \
                                                -- Metallica ?
    
    
    Sjaak (I like 'Is there anybody out there', The Baseheads and
                  'Rythme is a danser', Snap)

Maybe I'm just old, but could someone describe "rave" to me?  I've seen a few
examples in this note but I've never heard the bands.  Is this a UK phenomenon
or does the US rave too?

Sorry, I verbed a noun.

Paul

> does the US rave too?

I think not: an American friend who has been over here for a year is trying to 
find a (prefereably illegal) rave before she goes home in order to be able to
look her friends in the eye when she gets back. I think there's a myth over there
that its all 'happening' over here.

+Mark+

Have to disagree, you should go to San Francisco. Loads of "rave"s every
week.

Dave

I've just said goodbye to a friend from San Fran'. 

We blew her mind!  B^>

They do rave there.  She called them "Mr Floppy" parties.  I can't imagine
a rave doing well here with a name like that.  
She says that they don't get quite do wild there as we do.

She's moving here later in the year!!!

David

    Anyone know anything about 'The future sound of London'?
    
    The lp got a good write up in the press this week, and I saw a single
    in the shops yesterday, but I never heard of them.
    
    Mikef

They were on Top of The Pops last night: made no impression than being dreadfully
dancy and ethnic.

+Mark+

Did anyone catch KISS this weekend?  What a station!


Things to listen out for:-

Jam & Spoon - Stellar(melodic techno)
InnerCity - Pennies Fron Heaven (A real stomper, "need some, we need some...")
U2 - Even Better Than The Real Thing (Remixed, enhanced, most U2 fans will hate)

And a tracked called "Rhythms of The World" 


David

Danny Rampling's on my radio.

    
    	Live in Scotland / North England and fancy seeing what it's all
     about then get yourself up to  Dalleagles near New  Cumnock (Ayr)
     next Sat 13th June for one of the biggest open air events in
     Britain called "The Earthquaker"..aptly so due to the 120K sound system..!
     15,000 ravers expected with live appearances from Dream Frequency and
     Shut up and Dance. The one they tried to ban...C U there....
    
    
    
    

    
    Com'on lightweights.....
    
    There is already a note on rave "music".
    
    If you have to waste disk space on rave, then stick it in one or the
    other.
    
    Greg...

    ...or, of course, both.
    
    Piers

    
    >>> -< Rave on... >-
    
    
    sheeeaah riiiigghhhht.
    
    LIGHT
    
    Greg...
    
    

    Anyone read about the "rave" at some castle moor with the "travellers"
    attending and the police seemingly powerless to stop it - the
    organisers say this is just the beginning of the "rush culture" - a 
    scene to be watched with interest.
    

    I've read about the Castlemoor episode. It's had a lot of coverage.
    
    I think if I was a resident, I would be pretty hacked off with them.
    There is a lot of talk about Ravers, Travellers and some other
    sub-group. The ravers were the problem, apparently. 
    
    dj
    

or Actually!

I created this note for the MUSIC.
The other note is for the venues,  N'est pas!


By the way has anyone heard the new track by "The Grid" and what's it like ?
David

    Hi Chaps,
    	     I'm well into hardcore music ie white lables, special remixes
    etc.  None of this applecore poppy music you hear on the radio (exp:
    Kiss FM I know colin dale very well!!!) if you hear of any good tracks
    on techno beeps keep in touch.
    
    Cheers 
    
    N. Vee
    Evolution
    
    Or
    
    Paul Weeks
    CSC Basingstoke

    THIS IS NOT FROM GARY.  THIS IS FROM KENNY
    
    AFTER READING ALL THAT'S BEEN WRITTEN IN THIS SECTION I FEEL IT TIME TO
    WRITE MY OWN PIECE.I'M KENNY AND DARE I SAY IT I'M A DJ...WORKING HARD
    FOR A SOUND SYSTEM CALLED ARMAGEDDON. SINCE GETTING INTO WHATS NOW
    CALLED RAVE A LOT HAS CHANGED. BACK THEN PEOPLE JUST USED TO SENT UP
    WHEREVER AND WHENEVER AND ENJOYED IT WITHOUT THE HASSLES OF POLICE
    PAPERS ETC. NOW RAVE SEEMS TO BE ANYTHING & EVERYTHING A RECORD COMPANY
    CAN SELL, TAKE KWS FOR INSTANCE SOME OLD RECORD REWORKRD AND THEY CALL
    IT RAVE.. WELL IT'S NOT NOR IS A LOT OF THE RUBBISH YOU HEAR BEING
    CALLED THE SAME. IT'S ALL HYPE I NEVER GO TO THE BIG PAY RAVES DUE TO
    THE FACT THEY ARE RUN BY SOMEONE WHO'S JUST IN IT FOR MAKING
    MONEY.WHERE DO 16 YR OLDS GET 20 QUID TO PAY TO GO?????..
    I WORK IN A SOUND SYSTEM AT WEEKENDS SETTING UP FREE PARTIES FOR ALL TO
    ENJOY,ANY AGE ANY COLOUR YOUR WELCOME AS LONG AS YOUR NOT A RACIST.
    TAKE CASTLEMORTON COMMON (YOU'VE ALL READ ABOUT IT)ARMAGEDDON SET UP
    WITH SPIRAL TRIBE, DIY, ADERALIN, CIRCUS WARP ETC AND WE ROCKED SOME TINY
    LITTLE VILLAGE FOR DAYS.SO THEY CALLED IT ILLEGAL BUT SO WHAT IT WAS
    HELD ON COMMON LAND WHICH BY LAW IS FOR THE USE OF ANYONE TO
    ENJOY.25000 PEOPLE DID.PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE MOANED ABOUT IT WHICH I
    IS FAIR BUT FACE IT JUST BECAUSE THEY LIVE BY COMMON LAND IT DOESN'T
    MEAN THEY HAVE THE SAY IN WHAT IT GETS USED FOR.I'VE SENT UP OVER 30
    PARTIES SO FAR AND INTEND ON MANY MORE, AS LONG AS THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
    ENJOY DANCING AND BEING HAPPY WITHOUT THE STRESSES OF SOCIETY(CLOTHES
    ,MONEY,CAR MATERIALISTIK (SPELT WRONG)THING ARMAGEDDON WILL CONTIUE TO
    SET UP.IT IS UNFAIR TO CLASS ANYONE WHO LIKES THE MUSIC AS A CHESEEY
    QUAVER BECAUSE NOT ALL OF USE WALK ROUND IN STUSSY HATS BLOWING
    WHISTLES STICKING VICKS ON EACH OTHER. PEOPLE LIKE THAT WILL FADE ANY
    WHILST THE REAL HARDCORE FOLLOWERS WILL REMAIN. AFTER THE FESTI A LOT
    WAS SAID ABOUT THE STATE OF THE LAND DIRTY NEDDLES PEOLE CRAPPING ON
    THE FLOOR IT'S NOT THE TRAVELLERS IT'S THE CHESEEYS. TRAVELLERS WILL
    BERRY IT TO STOP HEPITITAS.
    I READ IN HERE SOMETHING ABOUT DJS BEING RIGHT BIG HEADS IT TRUE
    AND FOR THAT REASON I DON'T NORMALLY TELL PEOPLE , I'M NOT.
    REGARDING MIKE FS' PIECE I'VE GOT THE FUTURE SOUNDS OF LONDON RECORD IF
    YOU WANT A COPY.& N VEE IF YOU WANT ACE TECHNO CALL 0494 464948 TOM OR
    CATH.THEY CAN GET STUFF THAT NOBODY ELSE WILL,A FEW EVEN BEFORE COLIN
    DALE.TRY THEM IT'S WHERE I GET ALL MINE..
    120K IN SCOTLAND TOTAL CRAP THEY WON'T GET A LICENCE MORE PROMOTER HYPE
    IF YOU FALL FOR THAT WELL.....THE SHAMEN USED 110K AND GOT SUED BIG
    TIME.
    
    I,M SITTING HERE AT THE MOMENT IN MY SUIT COME SATURDAY I'LL BE IN SOME
    FIELD OR WAREHOUSE COVERED IN MUD AND DIESEL BUT WELL WORTH IT .
    WHEN YOU STAND INFRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ,LIGHTS GOING MENTAL AND
    15K SUB BASS WAITING FOR YOUR NEXT MOVE IT'S THE BEST FEELING IN THE
    WORLD.BELIVE ME.
    
    NEXT TIME YOU HERE OF A FREE PARTY GO YOU'LL LOVE IT.
    
    LOVE TO ALL THE HAPPY PEOPLE
    YOURS KENNY
    ARMAGEDDON THE SOUNDS OF NOW.
    READING CSO
    
    

    Let us know and we'll go!
    
    Anyone hear a new record, maybe by someone called Electra, which is a
    re-working of Blue Monday?  I thinkits called 'How does it feel'.
    
    Mikef

    .38 
    
    Get yer Caps Lock out for the lads purlease.
    
    barry.

Well, that's made it all clear, hasn't it?  Except, what the hell's a 
CHEESEY QUAVER?

Lee

    You're sounding old, Lee. I never thought I'd see the day.
    
    Piers

    RE: .38
    
      So, MR CAPS LOCK, whats your definition of a perfect RAVER. You
    obviously don't agree with all the Whistle blowing and wicked coloured
    hats. I'm intreaged, you made quite an interesting statement, but
    seeing as the majority of Ravers in Reading do Blow Whistles or wear
    either baseball caps and colour hats, plusa you being a DJ, you're not
    really making a very good name for yourself.
    
    ......Doctor Ruth.		

    I think what MR CAPSLOCK is refering to is the silly little hangers
    on. You know the ones, who were into Bros, until they saw an
    article in Smash hits that told them that raving was going to be
    the big thing for `92! These are also the ones which seem to manage
    to get themselves on T.V and into the newspapers, giving ravers a bad 
    name. For them all raving is, is going out on a Saturday night and
    getting out their faces, and going round asking people "Whats your
    name, where you from and what ya on??". Just ask anybody who has been 
    `Raving' a bit longer than the past 6 months and you'll find a
    completly different outlook on the scene.
    
    Ian.

    
    <<Just ask anybody who has been `Raving' a bit longer than the past 
    6 months and you'll find a completely different outlook on the scene >>
                              
    Well, we can't ask you Mr.DJ Eazi Rock & your rebel MC, coz you ain't 
    been doing it any longer than that either 8*))
    
    BTW, how are the kiddies Community centre under 10's discos doing these
    days ?, are smarties still more popular than speed ? ;-)
    
    DJ Jay Jay & the Big Funky Sex Machine fae Bo'ness
    
    P.S.  Do you still subscribe to `Smash Hits' & `Look-In' & wasn't that
          your photo in the Livingston Post last week ?
    
    
                                       

I thought the Mr CAPSLOCK stuff was a wind-up. You mean all that drivel was
meant seriously? It's ok to give 100 assorted Grannies Heartattacks and
when the Pedigree Chum runs out, just let the dogs out on the sheep?

And anyway, Mr CAPSLOCK, why the discrimation against people who ain't
happy? LOVE TO ALL THE HAPPY PEOPLE - 'the rest can just sod off'.

Dougie

Dougie, away you and value some differences.

    
    Yes, I think that's enough too.
    
    Trevor (moderator)

I'm lost! 

	(Where's me zimmer ... aaahh, I remember when you could hear the words
	 {mumble} (grumble} ...)

								- JIM CAD*

    Hi,

    anyone attend the rave at Prestwick (is that near the Ayr plant?) ? Just
    yesterday I got the tour schedule of Pragha Kahn & Jade 4 U. Well better
    late than never, I guess ;-).

    The rest of their UK tour:

	03-jul-1992	Dartford	Bridewell
	04-jul-1992	Manchester	Tv appearance on "The Hitman and Her"
	05-jul-1992	London		Ritzy 2000

    Then off to the USA:

	09-jul-1992	New York	Limelight
	10-jul-1992	New York	Tunnel Club

    And last back in Europe again, in France:

	19-jul-1992	Strasbourg	Metro

    Their new 12" "Rave Alert" is a crude remake of Rave Alarm, which was a
    European hit about a year ago. This one's the sucessor to Injected with a
    Poison, and is 141 BPM also.

    Andy ;^)