Conference marvin::uk_music

    I have to admit, I watched TOTP last night, just to see...
    
    The effects were good, I will say that, but there seemed to be a lack
    of imagination behind the whole thing.  What was the point of 5 minutes
    foot stomping at the end?  It wasn't good enough to be entertaining.
    
    The song wasn't much cop either.  It seemed to pinch an early 70s
    Stones riff, (sounded familiar anyway), and be very bland.
    
    I've no doubt it will make him a large amount of money.
    
    Mikef

    I must admit I had no interest in seeing the vid at all - call me
    old-fashioned, but I like something to stand on its own musically. As
    far as that goes, I knew what I was in for with Jacko's latest as soon
    as I heard that first 'AAaaaaaooooooo!'. Honestly, even his 'ad-libs'
    all sound rehearsed down to the most minute nuance.
    
    Yours unimpressed,
    
    Bob

    I haven't seen it yet, but when I heard a couple of million had 
    been spent on it, I know I shall be unimpressed when I see it.
    
    

I thought that the sequence with people changing into others of different race
was really good - I guess the processing for those effects would have cost
quite a bit. The rest of the video was fairly bland (like the song), it also
had that kid from 'Home Alone'(?) in it (puke bag time). The foot tapping
bit at the end was quite good - dancing on cars, smashing windscreens, 
wrenching out the steering wheel and going for a joyride (well almost :-)
in fact it was not at all like the LA Gear ad. that sometimes appears on TV...


...art

    
    I took the end portion of the video to represent a break from his past.
    The street scene was reminiscent of the "Billy Jean" video and the car
    was like ......(I can't remember the name of the song)... but you know
    what I mean. Like he was smashing his past work maybe? And the
    exaggerated fly-zipping-up was a "safe sex" message, I assume.
    
    He still dances the same moves as five years ago, still squelching,
    still wearing stupid clothes (what was that "spat-thing"??) and
    grabbing his package.
    
    The song kinda reminded me of "Faith" by George Micheal!
    
    The best part was the face changing stuff --- but didn't Squeeze do the
    same thing about 8 years ago?
    
    -James               

    They SHOW him grabbing his WILLIE????????? 
    
     Mary Whitehouse should know about this.
    
             Niall

    
    Well you sort of have to imagine it.
    
    
    
    Bit like he does I guess! :^)
    
    Mark
    
    PS Wasn't the face changing thing Godley and Creme?
    
    

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    Bart Simpson's guest appearance, at the end, made it for me.
    
    Andy.
                                                

    
    Wasn't Michael Jackson in The Simpsons a few weeks ago?
    
    Mark

    >Wasn't Michael Jackson in The Simpsons a few weeks ago?
    
    Yes.  He did a special guest voice appearance.  He played a mental
    patient (big white guy) who thought he was Michael Jackson. 
    Basically, he was making fun of himself.
    
    -Vicki

    
    Ah, but it wasn't him was it? It WAS a very good impression, but the
    credit at the end had someone as the 'voice of Michael Jackson', didn't
    it?
    
    Mark

    >Ah, but it wasn't him was it? It WAS a very good impression, but the
    >credit at the end had someone as the 'voice of Michael Jackson',
    >didn't it?
    
    His name is not in the credits, but it's really him.

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    Did anyone watch the season premiere episode of the Simpsons?
    Was that really Michael Jackson's voice on the show?  I didn't catch
    the ending credits.

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>    Did anyone watch the season premiere episode of the Simpsons?
>    Was that really Michael Jackson's voice on the show?  I didn't catch
>    the ending credits.


If it was, it wasn't credited.  TV Guide implied that it was him, though.

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They credited a special guest voice in the closing credits as John Jay Smith
or something along that line.

It sure sounded like him but I don't know if he has the chutspah to make fun of 
himself as much as they did on this show....


John


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    Re: making fun of himself
    
    Well, he DID give Wierd Al Yankovick his full permission, approval and
    blessing when WAY did both "FAT" and "Eat It".
    
    K.C.

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    I read that it was indeed Michael's voice, but that for contractual
    obligations and royalties or something like that, they would not be 
    allowed to credit him.
    
    - Sean

    RE's:
    
    Regarding wacko's BorW video,and then specific the part where he's
    bashing the car ect.Micheal ordered sony/CBS to scrap that part from
    the video because of the public's negative reaction.Last friday eve
    the whole Sony/CBS family in the world got that call from S/CBS USA.
    
    But I got the whole bit on tape :)
    
    Jan.

    The most amazing thing about 'black or white' is that is
    reminds different people of different songs.
    
    Faith by George Michael has already been mentioned. A friend of mine
    thought it sounded like an early Duran Duran track. Someone also
    mentioned its like a 'stones track.
    
    Personally, I think its sounds just like 1999 by Prince.
    
    Spooky ?
    
    Roy

    So guess who's being derivative then.
    
                          Niall
    

    Makes no difference if your black or white, does it. Who
    is he trying to kid! 

    � Makes no difference if your black or white, does it. Who
    � is he trying to kid! 
    
    Well he should know, he's tried both.
    
    Ian.

I watched a prog on M6 last nuit called "Rapline". Pretty good on the whole,
to my surprise, but I mention it here 'cos they showed the full 11 minutes
of the jacko vid.

Have to admit I enjoyed it on the whole, and found the song pleasant though
I can't for the life of me remember it. Thought he looked a bit like Lenny
Kravitz at the start, then there's a very Diana Ross-like sequence (but we
already know he wants to look like her). The surprising bit about the
"controversial" end sequence for me was that the song is totally over by
then; like someone said earlier, it's just like the LA Gear advert, plus
there's a bit with strong wind and rubbish blowing by which was straight 
out of one of his earlier videos; Billie Jean? All the crotch grabbing was
just silly, not offensive, you can hardly imagine there's much to reveal,
can you, he's so sexless. But I was knocked out by the face-changing
sequence, video technology sure is marching on. Was that Norm out of "Roseanne"
at the beginning? (And wasn't that bit with the giant amp a direct steal
from "Back to the Future 1"?)


Rod

    re .20:
    
    If there's one thing I can't stand it's Sunday drivers.
    
    Piers

    
    I would like to know something. Is the new Video 'Jam' out in Europe?
    I watch very often MTV, but i didn't saw the video the last view days.
    I hope he makes a good Show on Saturday in Munich.
    
    Guenter

    Is  Wacko on tour in the UK again or just other parts of Europe this
    summer, I've not read any concert reviews about him, even though I
    wasn't an avid fan I did see him in Leeds and Liverpool last time
    around, all I can say is great showman!! whether he's green, pink, blue
    or yellow.
    
    byee
    
    Porl (Living in ecstacy)
    

    A review in the Guardian yesterday indicated that MJ is on tour here.
    
    /a

MJ's just started his Euro-tour, kicking off in Munich. Monday's 
'Daily Mirror' carried a revolting front-page photo of him, supposedly taken
during the Munich show, which, assuming it's a genuine photo, shows that
his various trips to the plastic surgeon have had a fairly horrific effect
on his fizzog.


Rod

    I think it was Tuesday's Guardian which basically gave Jacko a thumbs
    down for the tour. Said that he appeared to have lost sight of what he
    is good at. Apparently the new show is pretty tacky.
    
    
    Balders