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| 857.1 | This is news to me.... | AYOV10::MDONNELLY | Luckless pedestrian | Mon Jun 17 1991 16:47 | 12 | 
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    >> Publicans are forced under the current law to obtain a special licence 
    >>where more than two musicians are playing in a pub. The high cost of 
    
    
    
    Does this apply in Scotland, Craig?
    
    
    Michael
    
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| 857.2 |  | SYSTEM::COCKBURN | Craig Cockburn | Mon Jun 17 1991 16:51 | 10 | 
|  | >          <<< Note 857.1 by AYOV10::MDONNELLY "Luckless pedestrian" >>>
>                          -< This is news to me.... >-
>Does this apply in Scotland, Craig?
There's no mention of Scotland in the article. I would assume it doesn't 
apply though, the procedure for granting licences to pubs is generally
different north of the border.
Craig
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| 857.3 |  | KERNEL::IMBIERSKI |  | Fri Jun 28 1991 17:37 | 7 | 
|  |     I've fallen foul of this stupid law myself. We had a good jazz gig
    going in Reading which got shut down when the council caught on there
    was no licence. 
    
    Still ... there's always Karaoke 8*}
    
    Tony
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| 857.4 | Keep Music LIve !!!!!! | BAHTAT::CARR | Dave Carr 845-2317 | Tue Jul 09 1991 13:44 | 9 | 
|  | re: .-1
Tony,
I agree...Any more karaoke and people will be climbing over each other
to hear a decent band.
You have my sympathies over the lost gig.
It's a stupid law. A duo with a 1 kw PA rig and backing tapes/midi
accompaniment can cause a lot more nuisance than a small band.
*DC
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| 857.5 |  | AYOV10::MDONNELLY | Leaning against the spin | Wed Jul 17 1991 16:46 | 10 | 
|  |     
    
    Hey, let's not lump 'backing tapes' and 'midi accompaniment together
    please.  
    
    They're totally different forms of live performance.
    
    
    Michael
    
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| 857.6 | What is the Meaning of "Live" �^) | BAHTAT::CARR | Dave Carr 845-2317 | Thu Jul 18 1991 11:07 | 23 | 
|  | My point was that 2 people can make a lot more noise than a band...
I was not trying to slag off people who make use of Midi.
I think I see a rathole here...
IMHO, there's not a lot of difference between using backing tapes
(where the performer has pre-recorded the backing him/herself) and
using midi accompaniment (where the performer has programmed the
midi equipment him/herself). To me, it's just 2 different methods
of recording. In both cases, every performance will be identical
except for the parts added "live" e.g. lead vocal? There are going to
be no variations in tempo, arrangement etc. (intentional and
non-intentional �^)). 
However, in my view there is a lot of difference between the experience
of listening to a band (with a real live drummer) versus a "midi duo" or
an outfit using backing tapes. The latter forms of "live performance" (if
you insist) are very "safe" from the performer's point of view, all the
musically "difficult" parts can be preprogrammed or prerecorded. This
takes away for me a lot of the excitement I experience as a listener
(and would take away from the "danger" I enjoy as a playing musician).
    
Just my honest opinion (asbestos undies on, flame away!)
*DC
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| 857.7 | A better performance...or a pure live one? | AYOV10::MDONNELLY | Leaning against the spin | Thu Jul 18 1991 13:24 | 16 | 
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    It depends on how much is played live and how much is programmed.
    I use MIDI to supplement my live performance - not replace it.  In
    other words to play the parts while I'm playing other parts.  Not to
    cover the difficult bits.   
    
    Of course I realise that the 'liveness' of our performance can be
    questioned, but I can't be bothered with this "it's not rock'n'roll"
    attitude if you don't have a five piece band and drummer.
    
    It sure feels like performance to me, and it allows a bit more
    concentration on vocals.
    
    Michael
    
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| 857.8 |  | NEWOA::SAXBY |  | Thu Jul 18 1991 13:32 | 20 | 
|  |     
    Talking of the title (although NOT the actual content) of this note,
    I heard a piece on the radio about a number of American states
    legislating that concert promoters must advertise whether performers
    would be singing or lip-synching! I couldn't believe it. I checked to
    make sure it wasn't still April, but the report continued with some
    promoter saying it was a bad legislation and they shouldn't have to
    tell the public if Madonna (in this case) was going to sing or mime.
    He claimed that the public would rather she mimed than 'got short of
    breath during an extended dance sequence'! 
    
    This whole thing horrified me. Concerts, especially for the likes of 
    Madonna, Prince, The Mad bloke, etc, are far from cheap events, but
    you'd think you could at least get something out of it that Top of the
    Pops doesn't offer. Wouldn't you?
    
    If someone is going to do a 'live' performance then the least they
    could do is actually perform live!
    
    Mark
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| 857.9 |  | ODDONE::FIDDLER_M |  | Thu Jul 18 1991 13:40 | 11 | 
|  |     Who's the Mad Bloke?
    
    I agree - there is a worrying trend of moving concerts back to 'an
    overall performance concept, man'.  Pet Shop Boys are also guilty of
    this.  What did we have punk for?
    
    Mikef
    
    Prince is still a great entertainer who plays LIVE.  But the ticket
    price quoted in another note is ludicrous, unless there is an extended
    support line up.
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| 857.10 |  | NEWOA::SAXBY |  | Thu Jul 18 1991 14:27 | 4 | 
|  |     
    Mad Bloke = M.Jackson (Who's Mad?) :^)
    
    Mark
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