Conference marvin::uk_music

	On no account sell any of your records ever!!

	At the age of sixteen Id built up quite a good collection, but went 
	through a cash crisis where I sold them all to various people. I now 
	miss all those classics I had as a youngster so don't do it, its not 
	worth the regret. I could kick myself. 

	Theres an upside to this story though. I bumped an old mate from school
	and he said 'Remember all those records you sold me?' I said 'Yeah can
	I buy them back?' to which he replied 'You can have 'em mate!'

	Ill get them back soon. Triffic.

	So dont do it!

	Ian.

    RE .1
    
    I could tape everything twice, once for listening to and a backup copy. 
    It would mess up any ambitions I have about becoming a DJ, but getting
    those instruments seems more important.
    
    
    matty

    If you sell all your records does this mean you'll be doing yet *more*
    shopping ??

    Will you let us know ??

    - Tim

    Tim, I'm not too sure I know what you mean.  Hope this is the answer;
    
    If I sold 'em I would stop hunting for all theses limited editions and
    remixes and just buy LP's and the odd 12".  Hopefully there should be
    enogh music out there to get by.  It's just all the obscure remixes and
    versions and usually better and worth having.  Every now and then I
    suppose I'd tape the records I had and then sell them.  What I used to
    do was buy a 12", tape it, then take it back saying it was the wrong
    one and they'd give me another!  I might resort to that again.
    
    
    matty

    I personally wouldn't sell, just try to cut down on your spending and
    save up! you could probably pick up some of the gear you want second-
    hand a lot cheaper...Anyway if you do decide to sell, let me know.
    
    ..Craig
    

    If I do sell I'll advertise on here first.  But I will probably take
    ages to make my mind up.  I think I would sell if I could get rid of
    the lot at their worth, but I could see myself being left with a third
    of them and only part return on the ones I sold.
    
    
    matty (still thinking)

    Re .7
    
    You've got it Matty. If you try and sell your *collection* you
    will end up a) NOT getting full value's worth in return...you will
    have to sell at cost_price(including some collectors items that
    you held on to!) and b) you will NOT sell all...and so will be left
    with say 25% of your original collecting,reminding you where the
    other 75% went!
    
    Advice;- As someone mentioned earlier cut down on your present *buy*
    policy...get your new stuff on HP(loan whatever) and pay back over
    say a couple of years! ALSO...I think you mentioned getting several
    items of equipment/instrumentation?...getting musical instruments
    etc all at once is a BAD idea.You end up dabbling in all and becoming
    master of none!.Best get them one piece at a time and as you progress
    (get up to speed...luv DECspeak :-) incorporate or move on to a
    new item. You can build-up your musical instrument collection just
    like one can build-up thier Hi-Fi.
    
    Finally...you mentioned moving location. So I figure it would be
    a bad time to start landing out more cash...unless of course you are
    getting a BIG *relocation* :-) 
                                      
    Rgds.,
    
    - Dave K.

    Dave, I am getting relocation expenses.  So after 3 months I should be
    able go and spend �1000 cash on a Roland D20 and practice amp.  I will
    be earning more, paying out less living costs and I've just finished
    paying for my fishing tackle (�2000 worth), I'm unattatched and plan to
    stay that way for a while intil I have a home studio/setup (A good
    excuse for being an ugly oik), I can't drive.  ie. I have as much funds
    as I could expect for a teenager.
    
    I don't want to commit myself to paying out dosh for 2 years.  Also I
    want to learn, write & play live while I'm still young.  I've wasted
    enough time already, so the sooner the better.  If I want to get into
    the charts, and I do, then I have to start climbing the ladder asap. 
    Most bands don't get anywhere, the rest don't break overnight, and I
    want to get the apprenticeship started.
    
    As for buying everything at once.  What happens if I have a few good
    tracks on disc, but have nothing to make a demo on.  I need the basics. 
    If I bought a keyboard, but not a guitar then I can only record the
    one, leaving limited in posible creativity.
    
    All I have at present is a �200 keyboard, classical guitars and a tape
    recorder.  It's just completely different what you can do with pro
    stuff.
    
    I'm confused and I thank you for the advice.
    
    
    matty_who_still_probably_has_unsettled_hormones

    I have been holding back here Matty as I am twice your age....
    however I can (just) remember being in similar situations in my
    teens.....
    My initial reaction to 'should I sell my records' was NO....then
    I thought, well how about weighing up what you really like or 
    believe will be 'collectible' in the future (speculation here) and
    keeping those, and (shh) record the rest and sell them on....
    I think DaveKs advice was very sound.... I can understand your 
    impatience to do it all, (we all always want more than we can have).
    but it all boils down to priorities..... whatever you do, I reckon
    you will always have some kind of regret in the future...thats life!
    
    Ray.
    

    I wouldn't have any regrets if I thought I did the right thing.  As for
    predicticting what's going to become collectable - a large percentage
    of it.  If I didn't sell my collectables I'd only end up with about a
    fifth of the value of the total.
    
    I'm becoming defensive!  My conscience would kill me if I sold!
    
    
    matty

    Matty,
    
    you were saying something about a demo...
    
    I can get tracks cut onto acetate from tape if you want. It won't
    be very expensive, max of �10 per 12 inch.
    Mail me if you are interested and I will get the details to you.
    
    J/

    It'll be months yet (like at least 6).
    
    I've got to save up, buy a keyboard, learn what the buttons do, write
    something and record it.  6 months max!
    
    Out of interest, can you play an acetate on a turtable?  I've seen them
    on sale in Record Collector for high prices.  Another question:  What
    exactly do you do next with the acetate?  ie. Do you just take them to
    a firm and get it copied to vinyl?
    
    matty_the_ingoramous

    Matty,
    
    An acetate is basically like a normal vinal record but there are
    a lot of special conditions:-
    
    	* it doesn't last as long...usually about 100 plays
    
    	* the sound track is _cut_ into the acetate instead of being
    	  pressed like a record.
    
    	* it is generally used for illegal copying of v. rare records
    	  that can no longer be found on issue so it can be played by
    	  DJ's at clubs, etc.
    
    	* it is a hell of a lot cheaper than getting a record pressed
	  (without the aid of a company) but due the short life and
    	  time involved in making acetates, they are not suitable for
	  mass production. 
    
    The reason why I suggested them was that if you got a record written
    and on acetate, you could give some to DJs at clubs, etc and get
    yourself some airplay (hopefully!).
    
    A lot of acetates are very expensive due to their lifespan/rarity
    value/their content. eg, a friend of mine bought an acetate by Gary
    Numan a few days ago. It is white acetate and only a few where made
    (around 1000 I think). He paid �70 for it and it is already worth
    �140!
    
    If you ever think of buying one, make sure it is authentic though
    (this one had a letter of authenticity) as if it has not, you might
    be getting ripped off and also ripping off the artist by buying
    an illegal bootleg.
    You can get prosecuted for it too!
    
    BTW: Yes, you do play acetates on turntables (if I didn't mention
    it already)
        
    If you are planning on getting your sounds released nationally or
    even just locally, it will cost you a lot of money so your best
    bet would be to try for a contract I guess. Don't take my word for
    it though, I'm no professional!  ;^)
    
    Cheers
    
    J/

I sold all my stuff over the last 2 years cos I was totally peeved off with the
sound of vinyl, especially the sound of all the old 7" singles. I've not 
regretted the fact yet ... the stuff I sold fetched big bucks at some shops
which enabled me to purchase loads of CDs.

So my advice is ... sell, sell, sell .... luverly!