Conference marvin::uk_music

    Of course its the best era of all......in my opinion ;-)
    
    Spencer Davis Group, Small Faces, Hendrix, Donovan, Dylan....
    ... and quite a few 'one hit wonders'.... Scott Mackenzie the
    epitomy of 'flower power'.....Brenton Wood....Thunderclap Newman
    ..... I'd better leave the soapbox.....
    
    Ray.

    .... the one group that overshadowed everything else in the '60s
    
    
    			THE BEATLES.
    
    Ray.

    Keith Edmunds!! You ought to be ashamed of yourself!!

    A man who just reached 30 this year on about 60s music being the best
    of all time...somehow I find it hard to imagine a six year old
    "peaking" on the dancefloor to Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots" or
    kiss-curl puppy-love smooching to "Yesterday", buying soda-pops for the
    assembled pre-pubescents blah blah...

    Tell us about your *real* past...trying out those khaki army combat
    baggies down on King's Road in '77, buttonholing Jo Strummer for an
    invite to a Wayne County paaaarty etc...

    I think the kids should know...

    - Tim

    PS You sound like you've spent too long up in that plane again...

    In answer to the question in the title, I say 'No, but.....'
    
    Yes, there was a lot of good stuff around then, and some of it I
    still listen to now (non-nostalgically, mind; I love it for what
    it is), but some of it, particularly the chart pop, is dreadfully
    dated.
    
    Two styles from the era I still listen to are the Motown/Stax soul
    stuff, and psychedelia. As previously mentioned, I also love the
    Doors, Dylan, Beatles, earlier Stones, Kinks, Scott Walker
    
    But let us not forget that the likes of Ken Dodd, Des O'Connor
    (any relation, Tim?), Matt Munro and Engelbert Humperdink were also
    riding high in the charts.
               
    Bob

    re.3
    
    >>  Keith Edmunds!! You ought to be ashamed of yourself!!
  
    He very well may be after last night.  I don't think he's
    recovered sufficiently to make an appearance in Notes yet
    today.                                           
    

    It was the times as much as the music.
    
    Imagine catching The Stones live in the back bar of your local.
    
    Or BB King live with the Animals at your town hall.
    
    

    I've often wondered if it was the time of my life, or the music (or
    both). I was born in 1959, and thus the sixties were my childhood.
    Although I have no wish to be any younger than I am, there is a certain
    nostalga in childhood memories.

    Re: .5
    
    
    Looks like Zebra's Don't ever Change their Stripes Right Keith?
    
    
    
    To get back on the Subject, how about the GrassRoots!  They had a few
    really great songs!  And then the Foundations, with Build me a
    Buttercup!....

.8�    Looks like Zebra's Don't ever Change their Stripes Right Keith?
    
    I was at a combined Stag and Hen night for a couple who are getting
    married (Sue: I didn't get drunk, honest!). I've never been to one
    before...

    re.9
    >> (Sue: I didn't get drunk, honest!).
    
    Oh, Keith, I *am* disappointed in you.

    re .10
    
    >>Oh, Keith, I *am* disappointed in you.
    
    
    
    Aren't we all, Aren't we all :-)

    Yeah Di I have a comment :-)
    
    
    Looks like we scared everyone away... so much for having a sence of 
    humor :-)
    
    Anyway, I really don't like the remakes of the old songs, to me its
    because the new groups don't have any imagination of their own, so they
    go for the 'old' stuff.  Like the remake of 'Radar Love', and the new
    remake of "what I like about you", and so on......................
    
    
    Kel

    What's worth remembering about these `charity concerts' is that they
    are extremely business-minded...probably two objectives: 1) Audience
    satisfaction and 2) Make vast amounts of dosh (for the charity)...
    ...and not necessarily in that order.

    Our neanderthal hippie friends were more interested in the dawning of
    the age of aquarius methinx...(plus the odd few profiteers of course).

    - Tim

    re.14
    >> What's worth remembering about these `charity concerts' is that they
    >>are extremely business-minded...probably two objectives: 1) Audience
    >>satisfaction and 2) Make vast amounts of dosh (for the charity)...
    >>...and not necessarily in that order.
      
    Another "motivator":  The performer gets heaps of good publicity for
    participating and exposure to the vast audience watching (potential
    new fans, of course)
             

    Re last:

    Simple Minds got some stick on this point (profiting from a charitable
    cause) from, of all people, a Tory MP. It seems the man in the suit
    objected to some remark Jim Kerr made about `the Tory rags'. Maybe Our
    Bob can confirm this...as I can't remember the exact details.

    - Tim

    The tory mp made a remark something about them being hypocrites
    and only in it for the money, and called them some nasty name I
    can't remember.  Jim sued him, and they settled out of court for
    a large amount of money.
    
    Mike

    re Woodstock
    
    "They" sold tickets to lots of folks, but obviously lots more
    showed up unexpectedly without tickets and there had been no
    plans made as to how to collect money from these folks at the
    gate.  
    
    Because of the sheer numbers of people the idea of collecting
    money for admission was quickly abandoned and the promoter I
    guess ended up taking a financial bath. 

    I don't recall the promoter's name, but the uhhm farmer who let them
    all have a mud bath (to the tune of a massacred `Star Spangled Banner')
    was (Max ?) Yagsur.

    - Tim

    I go back so far I can remember the Mountain song "Yagsur's Farm"!

    
    You mean Yasker?

    You mean "When they said sit down...I rolled over in the mud.."

    "Watch out for the brown acid!"

    I saw the film once and have no no no no no desire to see it again.

    - Tim

    I *think* it was 1969 (but Bob will know!)...
    
    PS Hi Di!

    It was in 1969 (August, I believe).  
    
    I've never seen the film and was too young in 1969 to be 
    interested in what they were doing.  (Probably even ended up 
    in the mud once or twice ... y'see I was a kid at the time.)
       

    If you read the American Music notes file (or maybe Records), get the 2
    mixed up... there is a note on Woodstock, and a Guy wrote in,
    apparently, he was ther with some of this friends, and he said that
    they were camping out when it started to rain, for the whole day it
    rained, and they saw this guy standing against a board (leaning on it
    most likely :-), and they asked him if they could all hold it over
    their heads to stay dry... next thing you know more people came by, and
    stood under it, and a photographer from LIFE magazine took a picture of
    it.  It was in the 20th addition that was just out a few months ago,
    and I saw him, well, I saw a bunch of people standing under a board. 
    So Dec has some famous people working for them :-)
    
    
    And you KNOW your getting OLD when you meet guys and they tell you they
    were conceived at Woodstock :-)  I was in second grade at the time :-)
    give me a break :-)
    
    
    Kel

    Di,
    
    
    Remember that night we skipped aerobics and went to the outside bar?
    and there was a guy planting flowers, and he told us that his parents
    were at Woodstock, and he was conceived there? :-)  and my first
    reactions were "MY GAWD, I"m GETTING OLD :-)", then I stopped talking
    to him, before I got arrested for 'robbing the cradle" :-)

    Enough of that, Kel, where's my Rollers toons????
    
    8^)
    
    Bob (I grew up in the seventies well when I say grew up I mean attained
    the age of consent) Green

    I must confess I wasn't conceived at Woodstock either...I was about 10
    at the time. The first (and only) time I saw the film was while I was
    in college in Galway ten years ago.

    Any "peaking" I did was done to the backdrop of Television, the Clash
    ("I'm so booooored with the USA" etc) and I'd curl up with my Cadbury's
    to the sound of Joni Mitchell or Joan Armatrading...(b blah)

    I remember staying up to watch the moon-landing though (!!)

    - Tim

    Re. .31
    
    
    Give me your FAX number, and I will fax you out a copy of all the words
    to the Roller Tunes :-), at least when the rollers came out I was young
    and naive :-) how old were you Mr. GreenB :-)  Lets take a minute and
    try to figure this out :-) :-) :-) :-)......
    
    Seriously, when Woodstock was taking place, I was only getting ready
    for the 2nd grade, I was turning 7 years old that week (the week of
    Woodstock), and same goes for Di, we are the same age :-)
    
    
    Kel

    Kel,
    
    I don't know the fax no., but the old infernal mail'll do.
    
    FWIW, I was a mere stripling of 13 at the time of Woodstock, so
    by the time the Rollers hit, I was a strapping 18/19 year old.
    
    Bob

    Bobby BABY :-)
    
    
    Now what were you strapping??? inquiring minds want to know :-)
    
    Ok, so that makes you 6 years older then me...  WOW! :-) Just figured
    out your age :-) :-) :-) its Monday morning :-) it takes a while.....
    
    So what is your internal mail stop??? if that package gets lost in the
    mail, you will be laughed out of DEC :-) because YOUR name will be on
    this package :-)
    
    
    Kel

    Hey everyone, haven't we drifted of the point some what. Keith's
    base note was about the 60s Music vs what we get now. As a man who
    was there, (I'm a genuine Boom Baby dating from 1950,my teens
    coincided exactly with that decade ) I would say that the 60s music
    was the best because so much inovation took place across such a
    wide spectrum. 
    
    Gets on Soap Box.
    
    Think about it, there were the groups, 
    
    Beatles, Stones, Hollies, Kinks, Searchers, Small Faces, 
    Spencer Davis Group, Beach Boys, Byrds, Doors, Lovin Spoonful, 
    Cream, Animals, Shadows,Mamas and Papas etc,etc,etc
    
    Solo artists, Elvis, Cliff, Tom Jones, Cilla, Dusty, Jimi, Dylan
    Simon and Garfunkel, Donovan etc, etc,  
    
    The American Black Labels
    
    Motown, Stax, etc,etc
                 
    plus some pretty awful pap aswell e.g. the 'Bubble Gum' rock of
    '68, Jim Reeves, Herb Alpert, Englebert Humperdick etc,etc..
    
    The point about all this is the variety of music on offer was so
    wide every one could find something to enjoy, and all of these artists
    I have listed above sounded DIFFERENT. Nowadays everything is
    synthesised and sequenced so much it could (and often is ) anybody.
    If I never hear another S.A.W. record in my life it will be too
    soon.
    
    Add to all of this the cultural changes taking place during the
    60s, Art,  Fashion, Cinema, Television, Civil Rights, Vietnam, the
    Pill and you start to get an inkling of what it was like to live
    through that period and be a part of it. 
    
    OK I admit that a lot of the current 60s nostalgia trip is coming
    from Thirtysomethings like me who had a ball 20+ years ago and now
    want to relive it, BUT I play 60s music at home on record and I
    play 50s,60s and some 70s stuff in my band and my kids enjoy it. 
    It still works if you want to have a party and get up and dance.
    
    BTW Will the 'Pet Shop Boys' etc still be remembered in 20 years time?
    
    Right I'll get off my Soap Box now.  
        
    Does that give you thoughts Keith ?
    
    Richard_rapidly_approaching_forty_Bell

    Strange thing - My oldest kid's 14 and his room's papered with about 40
    or 50 K.Minogue? posters *but* a few weeks ago I heard Sgt Pepper
    blasting out. Then one by one all my old records  migrated upstairs
    and now we get nothing except  Beatles , Stones (mostly Satanic
    Majesties) and Jimmi Hendrix et al. His latest archeological find is
    Bob Dylan and now my guitar's found a new home and I'm being asked for
    the chords to Tambourine Man and Dont Think Twice etc.
    
    Must remember to lock up those fragile Bill Haley 78s.
    
    Jim

    That's nothing Jim...wait 'till he starts bringing home some of
    your old ex-girlfriends!!! :-)
    
    - Dave K.