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    They have another live release called "Reel to reel", which I am told
    is good but I haven't heard it. As for studio releases, there have been
    quite a few; my favourite is "Misplaced Childhood", but I haven't heard
    all the others... I'm sure you can get them in the US, but if not, let
    me know (by mail) - I expect to be in LKG in a couple of weeks time.
    
    They do admit that Genesis is an influence by the way. I think they
    have been together five+ years.
    
    Keith

    I go along with Keith on "Misplaced Childhood" - good album, once you
    get away from the commercial first few 'tracks'... For some real,
    unadulterated Marillion, try "Fugazi" - much more raw! I think there's
    another decent album called "Script for a Jester's tear" (I last heard
    it 3-4 years ago...) which you might be able to get a hold of.
    
    Happy hunting - and well worth the effort!
    
    R|tch^d

    
    Re. last few....
    
    Funny you should mention the Genesis influence, I remember reading
    an article on Fish and the band in one of the music rags around the
    time of the "Invisible Touch" tour. He mentioned that Genesis had
    approuched them about a support slot on their UK leg of the tour
    but Fish declined saying that people would only watch Marillion
    in the hope of seeing what Genesis used to be like.
    
    BTW "Script for a Jester's tear" is the first and IMO the best of
    the album releases to date.
    
    Jez
      

    
        I worked at a venue in St Albans, where Marillion did one of
    there early gigs, and as soon as they started playing the audience
    started yelling "SUPPER'S READY SUPPER'S READY !!" (A Genesis
    track/album?) They were none too pleased at this, and eventually
    left the stage, digusted. Fish was quoted in a music mag soon after
    as saying they would never play in St Albans again. (Not a bad thing
    either)
    

 Re. 4    Now I hear that Fish left the band and was replaced. He is
          currently involved in producing a solo album. Was he so
          disgusted with the Genesis comparisons that he decided to
          leave? Has anyone heard the new vocalist?

    If Derek has left the band, it was VERY recently. 

    
    Fish left the band about a � year ago.
    
    The last studio LP is Clutching at straws (1987) including single-hit 
    Incommunicado.
    
    The last LP from Marillion is a live one (I don't know the name, may be
    it's the one from .0 )
    
    There is another short-live-LP (about 25 minutes). I have to look
    up for the name of this LP tomorrow.
    
    
    		Guido�
    

    
    The Mini-LP is Brief Encounter (1986)
    
    It has two studio songs 	Lady Nina 		   (5:45)
    				Freaks                     (4:05)
    and three live songs	Kayleigh                   (3:52)
    				Fugazi			   (8:14)
    				Script for a jester's tear (8:20)
    
    		Guido�
    

    
    Yeah - Fish left the band and they now have a new vocalist (can't
    remember his name).
    
    They are doing warm-up gigs preparing for a tour I hear.
     
    Expect a solo album from Fish pretty soon.

      To Keith:
                I am having problems sending you email. I have been
                searching for Marillion tapes here in the New England
                area but have only seen the one I already have. I would
                be grateful if you could possibly get "Misplaced Childhood"
                and "Script for a Jester's Tear" for me. Let me know if
                you are able to do this. Thanks.

                                 -Steve (LEAF::S_DOWMAN)
                                         Mailstop LKG1-3/L12

    Hi guys just thought that I would add my little contribution to
    this note.Yes your all right Fish left approximately 6 mounths ago
    due to "Dissagreements on the way forward of the Band".They have
    a new Lead singer (who's name I cannot remember yet....obviously
    not as easy to remember as "Fish").
    
    	The good news is that there is a tour planned for here in the
    U.K. for the end of this year (December etc..Fot all those intrested
    in going to a gig near London,the Venue is Hammersmith Odeon on
    Monday December 18th..the Bad news is that ALL tickets from official
    sources are sold out already.You could try your luck from the touts
    on the door.
    
    	We wait with bated Breath to hear if the new Guys Vocals are
    as strong as some of the Big man himself.
    
    
    There is rumour of a new album out Late this year maybe the December
    gigs will be the first official airing of the new material.
    
    For those Intrested,the most recently available was a Double album
    called "LA GAZZA LANDRA" or if you want it in English...The Thieving
    Magpie.This album is a live recording of some of the concerts ,and
    I belive if you have a good Sterio and close your eyes the Music
    begins to move you into the Concert atmosphere!!!!!!
    
    	Also there is now a collection of Videos available  here in
    the U.k Ranging from the very early stuff to the most recent one
    "Live from Lorely"-recorded live at Lorely in Germany..
    
    I hope this answer's some questions that some of you may have had;
    and if you want some intresting reading there is a book (one of
    the many books telling the story of the band) just called
    "Marillion" and I must admit it provides some good reading into
    the history of the band
    
    	If any of you fancy,I have the address of the fan club if you
    want any extra info...
    
    	Hope to speak to some of you soon or maybe see you at one of
    the gigs
    
    	Dave..........
    

    Hi,
    A major Marillion fan here . I saw Marillion approx. 2o times between
    1982 and 1987 , including gigs at pubs , concert halls , and softball
    pitches (twice at theMilton Ketnes bowl . They were brilliant every
    time . 
    My favourite gig was at the Reading Top Rank in April '82 - 300
    people , max. , but it was incredible . I was right at the front
    breathing pure dry ice all evening .   Was anyone else there?
    
    I think Fish was the inspiration behind the band , I don't think
    anyone will be able to carry off singing his songs . So . Watch
    out for Fish's stuff , Marillion (sadly) are now just a group of
    extremely talented musicians with no leader .
    
    
    PETE 

    
    	Another fan here....!
    
    	IMHO, 'Script...' is the best studio album. For those in the
     US, I'm sure I saw it in CDSWAP at a reasonable price.
    	Fish is replaced by a short guy (called Steve Hogarth, I think.)
    	Apparently he used to be in  a band called 'The Europeans' -
    I'd be interested if someone has heard any of that material.
    	They'll be releasing a single in September-ish time, and album
    following called 'Season's End'. 
    	I have to admit that it seems unlikely that Steve H will be
    able to give the band the direction & lead that Fish supplied, but
    remember Fish only wrote the lyrics - the rest of the band wrote
    ALL the music. Talent is not in shortage.
    	Having said all that, the 'new' band have played a few secret
    gigs, and I've heard a few reports from the recording studio's,
    and so far have heard little criticism. 
    	The Fish solo album, due *soon* is to be titled 'Virgil In The
    Wilderness Of Mirrors' (!!). Now THAT will be interesting.
    	BTW, have any other fans noticed the way the band/rec company
    seem to be pretending 'Clutching...' never really existed, instead
    pushing 'Misplaced Childhood'? Or is it just my imagination?
    	Consider that the ENTIRE M.Child. set appeared on Thiev Magpie,
    the single from Thieving Magpie consisted of Freaks/Kayleigh/Childhoods
    End/White Feather..... that C.A.S. has been reduced to 'budget'
    price (ie. 7.99 on CD?). Why? I really liked CAS! It had an individual
    edge that Misplaced... seemed to be short of.
    
    
      That'll do for now... any questions welcome!
    
      Simes.
    

    Back again!!!!!
    
    
    
    Just to say that I have TWO tickets to see
    Marillion
    at
    Hammersmith Odeon
    on
    December 18th
    
    I paid #13.50
    You can  have them for #14 or #27 for the pair!!
    
    
    Simes
    
    VMS/Hole in One Mail to YUPPY::COFFEYS
    
    Phone DTN 7847 4224
    
    Bye.

    
         Out for a profit?
    
    :-)

I've seen Marillion 3 times in my area (south est of France) and they were great.
I really prefered the 1st show (Fugazi tour) when Fish would came on stage with
his face painted. My favorite CD is "Script..." followed by "Misplaced...". As 
live album, I would recomend "Real to Reel" which is older and better specially
on CD as it's 52' long (don't think the disk is that long). Note also the 
"B side ..." is a very long CD (I think  63') and that each of the (previously 
unreleased on album) single on it is excelent (I love "Grendel")

I'm waiting for the next Marillion. I'm not sure I'm waiting for the next Fish
event as he pretended he wanted to go back to Scotish folk songs (?).

I also read that Marillion did some gigs in North-Europe with Pete Tralavas 
(bass) on vocals and received few complaints.

Didier 

    
    The singles great, I much prefer the new vocalist to Fish. 
        
    Best thing they've done so far methinks.
    
    Great stuff,
    -Tony

    As a "true" Marillion fan , having seen them loads of times since
    1982 , and owning everything they've ever released , I'd just like
    to say that I saw "Marillion" on TOTP last night , and thought it
    was terrible . I closed my eyes to just listen to the song without
    having to watch this new guy . OK , so the musicianship's still
    there , but what was the song supposed to be ? It sounded for all
    the world like some ditty Jon Bon Jovi wrote while shaving his legs!
    Marillion *were* an innovative band with some style , now they just
    seem to be another rock band producing standard songs with the usual
    format and an over-repeated chorus line . Still , I'll buy the album
    and give it a chance , but it has to be said that I'm looking forward
    to the new Fish album a lot more .
    
    PETE 

    Re: .-1
    
    I actually quite like the new single, "Hooks in you", but I also
    had to close my eyes when they performed it on TOTP. Steve Hogarth
    has got to have some serious corrective surgery done on that
    hair-cut...
    
    Andy

    re.21
    
    Andy ,
    
         I have to admit that I don't mind the single itself - I actually
    quite enjoy some Bon Jovi now and then - it's just that Marillion
    used to produce songs that "meant something" (awful phrase I know)
    instead of just rock songs , and I suspect that is why I find myself
    hating it . Mind you , you're absolutely right about the haircut...
    
    PETE (buried in Script and Fugazi , and waiting for Fish to renew
          my faith in British music)
    

    (a sigh of relief)--I'm glad to see that there are other people
    out there who know what real music sounds like - Marillion is the
    best band ever (is that IS, or WAS?!?), right along-side Pink Floyd.
    The band was not out for fame and fortune, rather Fish's lyrics
    preached against it.  Every member of the band was (is) world-class,
    and I hope both Fish and the new band keep up with their brilliant
    exression of how they deal with life...Make sure you guys keep this
    topic up to date with info., as being fairly young (21), I am an
    AVID fan but have yet to see them live...now I fear it's too late.
    Anyway, I can't choose a favorite album (how can you rank the kinds
    of emotions that Fish puts into every song?), but I think CAS is
    an absolutely incredible piece of art.
    
    As far as I'm concerned, Marillion will never die...
    
    -Mike

    It may be too late to see the real Marillion live , but there is
    a lot of material around recorded at various concerts , probably
    the first being on the B-side of Garden Party - the riotous version
    of "Margaret" , much better on 12 inch if you can get it , plus
    the albums mentioned earlier in the topic . I've also got a couple
    of scrap-books full of clipping starting in 1982 , which give a
    much better impression of the development of the  band than the
    music alone . I don't know how much of Marillion's material you've
    got , but bear in mind that there are a lot of great tracks on the
    early B-sides , "Three boats down from the candy" and "charting
    the single" to name but two . As you say , Long Live Marillion .
    
    PETE

    Pete:
    
    I have all of the original Marillion albums (on CD):
    Script
    Fugazi
    M.C.
    Brief Encounter (I know, it's a compilation)
    Clutching
    
    I have one or two import singles, but where can I find them now?
    You know of any places?  Also, one of the singles I saw (it was
    a picture disk) had Hearts of Loathian on one side, and a song called
    'Tux On' on the other.  Have you ever heard this one?!?
    
    -Mike.

re : -1

What about getting the 2 live work which are "Real to Reel" (52mn of Marillion
live during Fugazi tour probably and at low price - at least in France), and
the double CD "The thiefing Magpie" which has a very good misc stuff on the
first disk and the whole "misplaced Childhood" live on the 2nd disc. It's a 
cheap CD too.

Then if you're looking for Singles you should get "B side themself" which is 
a compilation of all the previously unreleased on LP singles. You have all the
stuff from "Brief Encounter" (Freaks, Lady Nina) you have "Tux on" which was
the Bside of "Sugar Mice", you have "Greandel"(20 mn), "3 boats...", "market 
square heroes" ... and many more. I think it's on CD only but it's a good CD.

BTW : They already annouced 4 dates in France for the 3,5, 7 and 25 of October.
I got to go for the 4th time :-). I'd really like to how the new guy performs on
old stuff. Got to be strange.

Didier

    THANX FOR THE INFO.....Ok, I lied - I forgot that I have
    Real to Reel also....and I should be getting La Gazza Madra
    soon...
    
    But- The album (CD) with all the previously unreleased singles sounds
    incredible...I have not disliked a Marillion song yet, and would
    like to hear these...does anyone know where I can find it?  I will
    go almost anywhere to buy it...CD hopefully
    
    -Mike
    Eternal Marillion Fan

    re . 25
    
    Yeah , I've got that picture disc , as well as the following picture
    discs , I think this is all the ones I've got , I'll check tonight
    in case I've missed any :
    
    Market Square Heroes     12" Pic Disc
    Garden Party              7" Shaped Picture Disc
    Script .....             12" LP Pic Disc
    Kayleigh                 12" Pic Disc
    Fugazi                   12" LP Pic Disc
    M C                      12" LP Pic Disc
    Real To Reel             12" LP Pic Disc   
    
                 Yeah , I have forgotten some , I'll bring in a list
    tomorrow .
    
    PETE

    Mike ,
    
    Having had a look through me records last night , I've found that
    the pic disc of Hearts of Lothian is actually backed with a live
    version of Chelsea Monday and the 7" version of HoL . The Picture
    Discs I missed out are as follows :
    
    Lavender 12" Pic Disc
    Assassing 12" Pic Disc
    Punch and Judy 12" Pic Disc
    and a very poor quality interview picture disc released by Baktabak
    and recorded sometime around Kayleigh
                       
    
    All the tracks on Bsides themselves are available on singles , it's
    just that very few of the singles are still in print .
    
    As for getting hold of any rarities , I don't really know , although
    I have seen the Pic Disc of MSH advertised for sale in Record Collector
    for about #35-#40 . I bought nearly all these records when they
    came out , and managed to get hold of 12" , 7" and Pic Disc versions
    in nearly all cases . I don't know where you're based , but all
    I can suggest is keep browsing through the 'M's at record fairs.
     
    
    BTW , another single I bought when it came out was the Fish/Tony
    Banks collaboration "shortcut to somewhere" which may not strictly
    be Marillion , but was recorded while Fish was with the band .
    
    
    As for memorabilia , I have lots of press-clippings , ticket stubs,
    fan-club newsletters etc , but they're not really for sale .
    
    PETE

    
    Pete - Yeah, I realize now that it was 'Sugar Mice' with 'Tux On' on
    the B-side.......Finding some picture disks would be nice (I have seen
    many in the 'head shop' record stores around Amherst and Northampton),
    but I wouldn't play them for fear of damage.  I'll be satisfied with a
    complete Marillion collection on CD...
    
    Thanx for the info...
    
    -mike
    
    BTW, if anyone has seen the 'Bsides themselves' CD let me know...as I
    said before, I will go ANYWHERE to get it....
    
    EMF

>    BTW, if anyone has seen the 'Bsides themselves' CD let me know...as I
>    said before, I will go ANYWHERE to get it....
 
Really ?

I pretty sure I've seen it arroud here. It's even a low price CD (80 FF which is
about 8 pounds or $12) :-)

Didier

    ok,ok I admite it - I don't have ESP : Didier, where's HERE???

    of course, that last reply should read "...I ADMIT it..."

    By the looks of things "B'sides Themselves" is a European only release
    
    just as "Brief Encounter" was a US only release. (only a thought)
    
    I don't happen to know off hand. Most places over here in Britain
    
    have a copy, so if you're desperate mail me (IOSG::HARDIE) and I'll
    
    get a copy sent to you (for the required amount in cash of course).
    
    Personally I can't wait until Monday which is when the Album gets
    
    released in case you'd forgotten. (perhaps you hadn't)
    
    No-one seems to have made any comments about 'Hooks ...' cover,
    
    personally I thought it was trash, having seen the cover of the album
    
    though it certainlly makes up for it, it may not be a Mark Wilkinson
    
    masterpiece but it certainly is in the MARILLION image.
    
    Even thought MARILLION seem to be heading towards their roots, Steve
    
    Hogarths only going to sing M.C. and Clutching at Straws tracks on the
    
    coming tour, so it looks like we'll never see a true MARILLION gig again
    
    which doesn't mean to say that the future gigs aren't going to be as
    
    good, just different that's all.
    
    						Neil

RE : -2

	"Here" is "Valbonne" in (South-Est of) France

RE : -1    

>No-one seems to have made any comments about 'Hooks ...' cover,

	Never seen it yet. What is it ? 
	
>Mark Wilkinson

	Is he the guy that does the nice drawing of the old LPs ?

	Also "Clutching..." had already a different aspect than the previous 
	covers. I didn't like it much.

Didier

    Didier-Thanx!
    Neil-I'm sending you my DTN,address etc.- $$$ is NO problem -
            MARILLION IS WORTH IT
    Everyone else (Pete,etc.) - keep on talking!!!
    

    
    Well, I guess this is it....I bet I know where you're all going
    after work!
    

Don't know where you're going, but I'm going home.
    
    
    Only because I've already got my copy, only trouble being I can't play
    
    it here at work, I'd never get anything done anyway (do I now???)
    
    Mark W certainly is the chap who did the designs on all of the
    
    Pre-Clutching material.
    
    Anybody tried out the Grendel cocktail ??? (personally I'm into
    Bitter)
    
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    Neil - I'm on my way to TOWER RECORDS to buy it now.....
    p.s. - If I have the same impression as you do after the first
    couple plays, I'll be very happy - When I first became interested in
    Marillion (a friend on exchange from Sweden brought it over as though
    it was a musical bible), it took me some time to get used to the sound.
    But what can I say.....There's no letting go now...
    
    p.s. - Well?

    Something really strange happened last night....I was in Tower
    Records in **BOSTON** last nite and I casually looked through the
    Marillion/Marillion Import section as I always do...the last 30-35
    times it has been the same stuff. Last nite, though, I came across
    B'sides Themselves!!! It may be a UK-only release, but somebody
    has connections!
    
    I'll tell you guys one thing I'm SURE you already know...GRENDEL
    is incredible! I only got a chance to listen to Grendel on this
    CD before I crashed last nite, and let me tell you...unbelievable.
    
    -Mike.
    

    Interested to hear views on the new album - haven't bought it yet
    but I'm planning to this weekend , so I can add my piece on Monday
    
    If anyone's interested , I've got the lyrics to Grendel (which as
    far as I know were never released except via the fan club back in
    '83) somewhere at home . If there's any response I'll post them
    in here this week .
    
    Yours , trembling with anticipation ,
    
    PETE

    This is a twist to trip across this note.  In the US there isn't a soul
    who knows of Marillion.  Although I think they opened for Rush during
    their Misplaced Childhood tour.  
    
    The only album I have is the Brief Encounter EP, I got that because I
    LOVE the song Kayleigh.  It's such a good tune.  Then I got into the
    rest of it, although I still haven't gotten anything else.  Any
    suggestions as to the best Marillion?  I was saddedned to see Fish had
    left.  He truly was great with them.  
    
    Any news on a US tour with the new lineup?
    
    Thanx.
    Steve

    Steve,
    
    RE: "...the best Marillion"
    
    I'd definitely invest in "Script for a Jester's Tear", up to this point
    it comes over as the most complete, consistently-good album. If you
    like the raw stuff, "Fugazi" is also a must. And from what you said
    about "Kayleigh", it seems "Misplaced Childhood" wouldn't be such a bad
    choice (there are some flashes of class in it every now and again....).
    
    All utterly personal opinion, of course ... 
    
    Cheers,
                                                  
    R|tch^d

    Hey,
    	Did I read a couple of notes back that my Marillion Pic Discs
    may be worth a penny or two.
    
    	While I was telling the world about how great Twelfth Night
    were, my mate from Aylesbury was going on about a group called
    Marillion. He even sent a bootleg tape or two. Then they released
    M.S.Heros which I bought on 7" and later on 12" Pic Disc. I carried
    on buying Pic Discs after that. I can't remember them all, but they
    include Garden Party 12" Pic Disc, Punch the Judy shaped Pic Disc.
    Assassin 12" Pic Disc and a couple of others.
    
    	Are these worth anything now ?
    
    		Stuart P.
    
    P.S. Does anybody have the singles released from Twelfth Nights
    last album (on the Virgin record label) or anything by I.Q. 
    (Gosh, this the bring back memories of the great British prog. rock
    revival !)

    .42 - PETE - It's ironic that you mention GRENDEL because I was
    going to ask anyone out there if they had the words...as I
    mentioned before I just recently found B'sides in a Boston record
    store and I love Grendel...please post the lyrics when you get a 
    chance...
    
    .43- STEVE - How dare you say there is no one in the states who
    knows of Marillion!  I'm so hurt....(!)
    Yes, Marillion did tour with RUSH on several occasions...
    
    OK, OK - MANY people in the US haven't even heard of Marillion, but
    I like it better that way...Let's keep it a secret!

    re .46 Grendel lyrics will follow tomorrow
    
    re .45
    I was recently offered #40 for my MSH 12" Pic Disc . This , if memory
    serves , is probably due to the fact that only about 5000 were 
    pressed . As for the others , I'm not sure , but I'm hanging on
    to all mine (as listed a few back) . I think the next most valuable
    is not a picture disc , but the 12" of Garden Party which came with
    a free poster , again for about the first 5000 copies I believe.
    
    PETE

Re .43
>    This is a twist to trip across this note.  In the US there isn't a soul
>    who knows of Marillion.  Although I think they opened for Rush during
>    their Misplaced Childhood tour.  

     Hey Steve!
        This Steve in the US sure knows about them. I also started this
        note looking for info about them because I heard a lot about
        them being compared to early Genesis. Yes, it's true there not
        known well here but who cares. I also loved Genesis when I first
        heard _Trespass_ and I found it in a Jazz bin!

        I guess I'll have to make a trip to Tower Records in Boston. All
        I see in New Hampshire is the recent live release. 
                                                           ...Another Steve
 

    Heorot's plea and Grendel's awakening
    -------------------------------------
    
    Midnight sun bids moors farewell     retreats from charging dusk
    Mountains echo curfews bell          signal ending tasks
    They place their faith in oaken door cower in candlelight
    The panic seeps through bloodstained floors
    As Grendel stalks the night
    
    Earth rim walker seeks his meals     prepare the funeral pyres
    The shapers songs no longer heal     the fear within their eyes
    
    Wooden figures pagan gods stare blindly cross the sea
    Appeal for help from ocean fogs for saviours born of dreams
    They now their lives are forfeit now priestly heads must bow in
    shame
    They cannot save the trembling crowd that flinch in Grendel's name
    
    As Grendel leaves his mossy home     beneath the stagnant mere
    Along the silent valleys roam        to Hrothgars Hall so clear
    He knows that victory is secured     dragons charm will testify
    His claws will drip with mortal blood while moonbeams haunt the
    sky
    
    Grendel's Journey
    -----------------
    
    Silken membranes span his path       fingerprints in dew
    Denizens of twilight lands           humbly beg him through
    
    Mother nature's bastard child        shunned by leaf and stream
    An alien in an alien land            seeks solace within dreams
    
    The shaper's lies his poisoned tongue  malign with mocking harp
    Beguiling queen her innocence          offends his icy heart
    
    
    Lurkers at the threshold
    ------------------------
    
    Hounds freeze in silence      bewitched by the reptiles spell
    Sulphorous essence            pervades round the grassy dell
    Heorot awaits him             like calf to the butcher's knife
    Stellular heaven              ignore even children's cries
    
                   Screams        are his music
                   Lightning      his guide
                   Raping         the darkness
                   Death          by his side
    
   Chants rise in terror          flee round the oaken beams
   Flickering firelight           portraying the grisly scene
   Warriors advance               prepare for the nightmare foe
   Futile their sacrifice         as even their hearts must know
    
                    Heroes'       delusions
                    With feet     in the grave
                    Lurker at     the threshold
                    Cares not     for the brave
    
    So you thought your bolts and your locks would keep me out
    You should have known better after all this time
    You're gonna pay in blood for all your vicious slander
    Your ugly pale skins with your putrid blue eyes
    Why should I feel pity when you kill your own and feel no shame
    God's on my side and sure as hell I'm gonna take no blame
    
    You believe that you're immune to all of Mother Nature's laws
    You lust for gold with sharpened swords
    When your hoards are gathered and your enemies left to rot
    You pray with bloodstained hands at the feet of your pagan gods
    Then you try to place the killer's blade in my hand
    
    Cry for justice , distort the truth
    Well I've had enough of all your pretty , pretty speeches
    Receive your punishment , expose your throats to my
    Righteous claws - and let the blood flow
    
    
    copyright - Marillion Music/Charisma/Chappell
    
    
    
    Beat that Hogarth                  

I went to see Marillion in Vitroles, next to Marseille (South-Est of France).
The opening group was a french group called Arrakeen I had never heard of before. 
I can't tell you much about them coz due to some organisational problems we were
still outside when they started (and I hate to come in late ... but they only
opened 2 little doors to allow the whole crowed in ...?) Anyway when Marillion 
came we were in.

I had never seen the new singer before and I was surprised by its look. He 
reminds  me alot Jim Kerr (for haircut and the way he was dressed and also the
way he was dancing around) and he look pretty young. 

They played (from memory) :

	The king of sunset Town
	After you
	Script for A jester's tear

Then I lost the order but :

	The uninvited guest
	Warm wet circles 
	Slainte Mhath
	Easter
	Holloway Girl
	Berlin
	Kayleigh
	Lavender
	Heart of Lothian
	Seasons end
	The space
	Hooks in you

	1st Encore :

	Incomunicado
	
	2nd Encore

	Market Square Heroes

I may miss a few.

I've got to admit that I liked this concert a lot (and I have seen the "Fugazi" 
tour, the "Missplaced..." and "Clutching..." tours too). The singer has a good 
voice and keep it till the end of the concert. The new songs are MUCH more 
powerful live and I like the new LP a lot more now than before the concert. 
The musicians are still very good, their sound is perfect. 

I only miss maybe the "presence" of Fish (he was twice taller and wider than
Steve is :-) and also it was a little too short (1h50).

Anyway don't hesitate to go because it's good.

Didier

		 
	

    Fish's new album will be available now in January . Carrying on
    in true Marillion style , "technical difficulties" have slowed it
    down . This loosely translated means EMI didn't want it released
    at the same time as the "Marillion LP . 
    
    The new single is out any time now (Fish , that is) , however ,
    and it is apparently 'brilliant' . What did we expect ? Of course
    it's going to be brilliant .
    
    PETE

    - I'm still trying to find the US tour dates, but have been unable
    to do so....what do you expect, the record stores that have been
    telling me 'Season's End' would be out earlier now tell me that
    Oct. 23-27 is the official shipment period.  I think I'll just
    pack my Marillion posters and move to England...
    
    (sigh)
    ____
    \ \ \o\ , __
     \ \ \\\L_\_\
      \ \ \\\ \\__
    

    Finally managed to get hold of the new Fish single , and got it
    home to find that the record player had died , so I still haven't
    heard it !
    
    The cover's nice , though .
    
    PETE

    Right .
    
    Finally bought a new JVC on Friday , so I've managed to listen to
    the single a few times . 
    
    It has to be said that MC fans will probably not enjoy this song,
    although those that appreciated some of the more politically (for
    want of a better word) motivated songs on Clutching.. will almost
    certainly find themselves in love with it after two or three hearings
    
    State of Mind starts off slowly , and never reaches a real 'rock'
    crescendo , but what does that matter ? Fish's vocals are as strong
    as ever , and his lyric writing hasn't faltered either apart perhaps
    for the opening couplet "I don't trust the Government , I don't
    trust alternatives ,".
    
    All in all this is a worthy first solo single , and though it probably
    won't chart , anyone (and not just Marillion fans) with an ear for
    something a bit different with some intelligence behind it would
    be well advised to search out a copy .
    
    PETE 

    
    Well,WHat did you think of Fish.!!!!
    
    I saw him last nite (7th) at Portsmouth..
    
    What can I say.
    
    	He was absolutely....."Magic..!!!"
    
    	As the curtains drew back there was the familiar shape on the
    man who's live voice we have yet to hear for about 18 months in
    his new shape..
    
    Well after a few of the new songs, with I think some new style and
    definately the same strong vocals this was definately the Fish we
    all know.Then.......a very familiar sound began...Punch and Judy.!!
    
    	Was this a Marillion concert or just Fish reliving some of the
    old crowd moving numbers..!!!!
    
    	There were some more new tracks which I thought sounded very
    good and to say the least original,More than "Seasons End.."
    
    	Also we were treated to
    
    	Script For A jesters Tear,
    	Fugazi,
    	Warm wet circles.
    	Kayleigh
    	Lavender
    	
    
    	Well what else can I say..
    
    	All in all it was worth it, When It was over I thought well
    	The rest of the Band Are going to have to do quite alot to
    	Live upto what Fish has done  on his own.
    
    	If you can get to go ...just go and see for your self.!!!
    
    	
    
    	Catch you all soon
    
    		Dave

    
    I saw Fish last night at Guildford Civic Hall, and what a gig it was!
    
    It got off to a fabulous start with a rather good cover of Alex
    Harvey's "The Faith Healer", along with some great new songs and all
    the old Marillion favourites mentioned in the last reply.
    
    The new stuff sounds very interesting - to my mind more understated than
    the old Marillion stuff, the man is trying to get some very powerful
    messages across in his lyrics. I for one will certainly buy the album.
    
    The band were tight (especially the rhythm section), the sound was very
    good - I was left with the overriding impression that this was one Fish
    that needed Marillion less than he needed a bicycle. Were Marillion
    simply the Fish Band?
    
    Paul
    ----

    Here in Boston, 'Season's End' arrived about the beginning of November.
    (A long time to wait after listening to the reviews for a month from
    you guys!) I could only find it in two places in the area, both
    progressive music stores.  Quincy Records and Tower Records both got in
    only a few copies on LP and CD.  Needless to say,  they were sold out
    in a matter of hours.  There may not be many Marillion fans in the US,
    but SOMEBODY beat me to it!  So I still haven't heard the CD yet...
    I did find 'Season's End' on LP but I'm looking for the CD....Nice
    cover, though.
    
    Also, I'm still looking for info. on the US tour dates...
    ____
    \ \ \o\ , __
     \ \ \\\L_\_\
      \ \ \\\ \\__

    Do the LP versions of Fugazi and Script come with lyrics?
    
    Also, Marillion will be playing in the Springfield,Mass. area
     sometime around Feb.9
    
    Later,
    ____
    \ \ \o\ , __
     \ \ \\\L_\_\  ___--->
      \ \ \\\ \\__/

    The answer is yes . And jolly good they are too .
    
    PETE

    Right Fishy fans , the new single is out ( it has been for a while
    actually but no-one's mentioned it ) .
    
    It's called Big Wedge , review later .
    
    PETE

    So Neil , apart from "brilliant" what did you think of the lead
    track ? It seems to be an indictment of the Loadsamoney cash-
    worshipping religion of today , great lyrics as usual , with a good
    solid orchestral backing . Fish's voice still reaches those parts
    other vocalists fail to reach .    The cover is another Wilkinson
    masterpiece with a devillish Uncle Sam clutching wads of dollar
    bills . 
    
    PETE (who really ought to start buying Sounds again)

    Neil: Oh well, I have front-row tickets for Marillion on the 8th in
    Mass. (front-row tickets for Marillion in the US isn't hard!)
    Too bad Fish isn't planning any US tours, but I probably will never see
    his new album here anyway (as we talked about).
    
    ____
    \ \ \o\ , __
     \ \ \\\L_\_\
      \ \ \\\ \\__>

    
    
    Well guys its been out a week ,what do you think of it !!!!
    
    
    	I mean "Vigi

    
    I meant to say Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors"
    
    
    	I think personally its Damm good!!!

    The Fish album blows "Marillion" out of the water . It is superb
    , and hasn't left my turntable since I bought it . When the first
    track got into full swing , I found myself griining from ear to
    ear , and the smile still hasn't left my face . 
    
    I would post a full review , but suffice to say the album stretches
    across rock and folk , and is brilliant from start to finish ...
    
    PETE

    Well, the Marillion concert at the Paramount in Springfield,Mass.
    was incredible, what can I say?  I've been waiting to see them for
    three years and it was worth it.  Would liked to have seen Fish in
    all his glory playing with them, but Steve was great - full of
    energy and he did the old songs very well.  The new songs were
    superb as well.  I guess it's true - the only way to know Marillion
    is to see them live....
    
    Question:  If someone loves the old and new Marillion, leaning well
    towards the old, how will 'Vigil' hold up?
    
    Mike

    Vigil will surpass your expectations ...
    
    PETE
    
    ps lyrics on their way (at last!)
    

    Never doubted a true Marillion fan...
    
    Mike(The Uninvited Guest)-
    ==========================

>    The Fish album blows "Marillion" out of the water 

I really don't aggree with that. But I guess that's a matter of taste ;-)

My impression is that having powerful voice, lyrics and charisma isn't enough 
to produce a very good LP. Also adding traditional instrumentals part is strange 
but nothing else.

I fact I was (very happily) surprised by the Marillion latest LP (cos we
had doubted about the after-fish) while I was (a lot) disapointed by the 
Fish solo (that everybody sweared, would be a masterpiece).  


Of course this is only IMHO

Didier

    Didier ,
    
    Of course it's just a matter of taste , but I think Fish has produced
    a very good album . Perhaps not a masterpiece , but then again how
    many artists have ?
    
    I think the difference is that Marillion have changed direction
    , but Fish has developed his direction to improve on what he was
    trying to do with Marillion circa 83/84 ...
    
    I have listened to the Marillion album , though I've yet to buy
    it , but it seemed a lot weaker than Vigil... , with very little
    variation between one song and the next .
    
    again , all IMHO .. 8-)
    
    PETE

    
    
    WELL GUYS  ,
    
    		HERE IS A SMALL COMMENT..
    
    	AS WAS MENTIONED IN A PREVIOUS NOTE FISH IS IN THE GROUP OF
    ARTISTS THAT ARE ON THE NEW COVER OF THE "SAILING" SINGLE.
    
    
    	IF YOU HAVE CHANCE TO SEE THE VIDEO ,WATCH IT VERY CAREFULLY.
    
    	YES YOU SEE FISH ,SPORTING A TRENDY "VIGIL" T-SHIRT,BUT ALSO
    	IS THERE ANOTHER FACE YOU MAY RECOGNISE..
    
    
    		STEVE HOGARTH....."WHO"!!!!!!
    
    
    
    	P.S. I THING BUT I AM PRETTY SURE..!!!
    
    		CATCH YOU ALL LATER
    
    
    		DAVE

    
    Yes Neil, you're paranoid....
    
    
    K.
    ~~

    I think you're right Neil .
    
    PETE

Yeah, I saw some of the Sailing video and I sure saw Steve Hogarth in there 
too.  I thought it may be interesting, Marillion vocalists past and
present meeting up!

Emma
REO

Marillion was in Nice last night. They serioulsy rocked the house. The show was
much better than last september show in Marseille. Steve Hoggart is getting
better and better on stage. Steve Rothery was so good. The atmosphere was wild.
They were surprise how well people would sing along with them. Steve H said 
a few words in French like "It's warm in here" which was absolutely true.

They change a bit the show. We had the whole "Season's end", but also 3 cuts 
from "Misplaced...", 4 from "Clutching..." and again "Script for...". Again 
ghood performance of Steve on old stuff. They gave an acoustic (12 strings 
guitar) version of "After me" in the 2nd encore. They end up with a wild
"incommunicado" followed by "Market square heroe"/presentation of musicians 
as usual.

In the middle of Easter, just when Steve started his solo, he broke a string,
the band kept on playing, and he came back a few seconds later, with a big
smile like "sorry for that but ..." and restarted the whole solo. That was
funny.

That was a very good concert, 2nd best of the 5 times I've seen Marillion. And 
I don't think the absence of Fish was a problem last night.


Didier
 

    In the unlikely event that there are other US fans out there, I have
    the following info.:
    
    Marillion may be planning another US tour in June sometime, as the
       response to their recent US tour was much more than anticipated.
    
    Fish's solo album (you all know the name!) was recently released in
       Canada but will not be released in the US in the forseeable future.
    
    
    More later as the info. arrives.
    
    ____
    \ \ \o\ , __
     \ \ \\\L_\_\
      \ \ \\\ \\__>

    Well , Fishfans (and others) , today is my last day at DEC...8-(
    
    Thanks for all the conversation over the last year or so , and hope
    to see you again some time ...
    
    PETE

    
    Well Folks
    
    	What a nite..April 1st Hammersmith Odeon...
    
    	Fish gives an Impressive performance yet again...
    
    	The crowd was really responsive I mean loud.....
    
    	There were even shouts of "Marillion are dead"
    
    	It was really just a Damm good performance by a Damm good
    
    	Performer.Well worth the money and Sold out....
    
    
    	Speak to you all soon
    
    
    	Dave

    Does anyone know of any Marillion sheet music available overseas?
    Here in the US it's non-existent.
    
    Thanks,
    Mike

    No new news (say that six times fast) in a while?
    
    Marillion is playing at Pearl St. in Northampton, Mass. June 7th.
    
    Mike

    At Pearl St. on June 7th Steve Hogarth announced that after the
    completion of Marillion's US tour and several in Europe (to finish up
    the Season's End tour), they won't be around for a while.  Of course,
    everyone was shattered by the news.  Then he explained that the reason
    was that Marillion is going into the studios to prepare for another
    album!
    
    BTW, I have the lyrics for all the songs from B'Sides if anyone wants
    'em!
    
    /v\ike

    For sale -
    
    For tonight - 
    
    
    at Wembley...
    
    3 Marillion tickets
    
    14 quid a thro or so..
    
    Contact Simon Coffey on   0734   668611 day or 790837 eves.
    
    

    
    
    Anybody goe to the Marillion Gig last nite
    
    If so was it good
    
    
    
    If not why not..
    
    	Dave

    Last weekend I bought "Season's End" on tape and listened to it all the
    weekend. It was my first approach to Marillion (video clips on MTV
    excepted) and I'm very well impressed. The title track and "The space"
    are my very favourite, all the rest beeing also very good. Steve
    Hogarth has a great voice. I think a part of the rock press has done a
    bad service to Marillion by presenting them as some kind of Genesis.
    "Season's End" is a great album and I'm curious about their other
    works.
    
    Sorin

    
    I have a really important question?
    
    What can you guys tell me about:
    
    Jack and Jill
    The Release
    The Bell In The Sea
    
    I arrogantly thought I had every Marillion/Fish song ever released.
    Are these songs offered only on singles or 12" discs?  Are they
    actually out on a CD?  When were they released, what are they like?
    
    Thanx tremendously,
    /\/\ike

    
    Although I can't remember what they're like that much, no excuses really,
    but I can't stand getting up and putting on CD singles every 10 minutes.
    
    'Jack and Jill' comes off the B side of 'State of Mind' very repetative
    and similiar to most of the album.
    
    'The Release' I presume comes off 'Easter' as it's the only one I haven't
    got.
    
    While 'Bell In The Sea' comes off the B side of 'Uninvited Guest'. From
    what I remember this was one of the best tracks to have been released
    by Steve's Marillion why it's on the B side of a 12" I'll never know.
    There again wasn't 'Grendel'. Not quite such a classic though.
    
    Has anybody seen 'The Company' released yet? It was supposed to have
    been out a few months back, but none of the shops I went to had even
    heard of it.
    
    								Neil

    Now I have "Season's End" also on CD together with the "Script.." CD
    which I got last week. These days I also listened "Misplaced Childhood"
    and "Clutching.." CDs. I like them all with the favourites beeing
    "Script.." and "Misplaced Childhood".
    
    Sorin

    Some of the instrumentals recall me occasionaly also Camel's works.
    
    Sorin

    Seeing as this note has been dead for a while I thought I would add my
    contribution.
    
    I have been a Marillion fan for about 6 years now and have been to see
    them quite a few times including Milton Keynes Bowl but mainly
    Hammersmith Odeon.
    
    The last time I saw them was just before Christmas for the 'Seasons
    Greetings' tour at the Town and Country club and they were superb.  They
    played a couple of tracks from the forthcoming album that sounded very
    promising indeed as well as the usual bag of goodies.
    
    I must admit it took me a while to adjust to Steve Hogarth after Fish'
    departure as I didnt think things would ever be the same again but I
    now enjoy Marillion just as much as I ever did before if not more so.
    Steve's voice is excellent.
    
    I also saw Fish about this time last year for his solo tour which was a
    really good night out (also at Hammersmith).  He can still get the
    crowd going crazy.
    
    So I think now you get the best of both worlds and not as bad as Id
    originally thought when I heard that Fish was leaving.
    
    Does anyone know when the new Marillion album is actually coming out
    I havn't heard any firm dates as yet?
    
    Trish.

    A little belated now, but I've just read all the other notes.
    
    When I knew Fish in '81 (we all called him Derek then), he was a normal
    bloke who was a bit of a plonker about this great musical future he
    believed was coming to him (he was a great believer in palmistry and
    this gypsy had told him etc, etc.)
    
    The concert reviews show that overnight he transformed into this
    god-like figure - makes you wonder about all the other pop-stars..
    
    We didn't believe he was going to get anywhere because the bands demo
    tapes all sounded like...you've guessed it - Genesis.  And I preferred
    the real thing.

    Hi,
    	fancy finding a Marillion note! I have been a fan of this group for
    about 5-6 years now and have all of the studio albums but no live ones.
    Being a Marillion fan is a lonely business in New Zealand...
    
    I must agree with the ravers about the new Fish album. I find "Seasons
    End" is pleasant, but only a couple of songs really impress (namely
    "Easter", "Univited guest", "After Me"). "Vigil", on the other hand
    impresses me as an album as well as having a couple of excellent
    tracks, with only a couple of duds ("View from a Hill" and "Cliche"
    predominantly).
    
    BTW I am also a big early Genesis fan (and Peter Gabriel, Phil Who???),
    and reckon that the very early stuff beats anything that Marillion have
    done for inventiveness, tho' Genesis have slid downhill since then.
    
    			my rave for the day,
    				Brent.
    

    
    Hi,
    
    another Marillion liker, from Germany.
    I've been a true Marillion Fan for about 5 Years. And I still do like
    them. I've seen them live for 10 times. Yes, and I do like Fish a lot.
    A bit more, now, than Marillion. He has a good Band an a better Drummer
    as Ian Mosely. I've seen him live for about 3 times. One gig was is a
    small Club. I stood in front of the stage and the stage was only two
    foot high. Great experience. I've met Fish after one Gig. He's really
    a great guy.
    For all those, who interesting in, I'm going to write down my Marillion
    collection. If anybody has any interest in some of those items, please
    send me a mail, as I like to sell this stuff (but like to hold the
    CD's).
    
    7":  He Knows You Know
         Garden Party
         Kayleigh
         Lavender
         Heart Of Lothian
         Incommunicado
         Sugar Mice
         Warm Wet Circles
    
    7" Picture Disc's: Sugar Mice (with free Poster)
                       Freaks (Shaped)
    
    12": Market Square Heroes
         He Knows You Know
         Garden Party
         Garden Party (Live)
         Assassing
         Punch & Judy (Coloured Cover)
         Kayleigh
         Lavender
         Heart Of Lothian
         Incommunicado
         Sugar Mice
         Warm Wet Circles
         Freaks
    
    12" Picture Disc's: Assassing
    
    Albums: Script For A Jester's Tear
            Fugazi
            Real To Reel
            Misplaced Childhood
            Brief Encounter
            Clutching At Straws
            B' Sides Themselves
    
    Tapes: Real To Real
    
    CD'S: Script For A Jester's Tear
          Fugazi
          Real To Reel
          Misplaced Childhood
          Clutching At Straws
          B' Sides Themselves
          The Thieving Magpie
          Seasons End
    
    5": Incommunicado
        Warm Wet Circles
        Freaks
    
    Videos: Video EP (The Web & Grendel)
            Incommunicado (& Sugar Mice)
            Recital Of The Script
            1982-86 The Videos
            Live From Loreley
    
    
    Various Live Tapes from Marillion and Fish. Also a Live Video from Fish
    Live in East Berlin. If you like knowing details, send a Mail to:
    
    Peter Bruehl @HBF
    
    That's it for now.
    
    |PETER|

    Re .1
    If you are interested, I saw a programme on Genesis at the weekend
    which showed one of Mike and the Mechanics songs which Fish featured
    in.  Wish I could remember the song......
    
    

    - Shortcut to Somewhere, it was Tony Banks and Fish.

    Oh sorry, it WAS Tony Banks wasn't it, not Mike Rutherford.
    
    Oh gawd sorry.
    
    Red face ..............

     Well Guys
    
    Some news hot off the press Marillion will soon be headlining a gig in
    Cumbria, I can't remember any more details but its being plugged on
    Radio 1 quite a bit.
    Also both Fish & Marillion have announced some tour dates here in the
    UK.
    I think this will be to plug there new material.
    
    
    
    Anyway
    Speak to you all soon
    
    Dave
    
    
    

    Ive got tickets for Hammersmith in September which Im really looking
    forward to as the concert front for this year has been pretty dismall
    so far.
    
    What are the views on the new single then?  When I first heard it I
    wasn't sure but after a few listens its grown on me, not as powerful as
    usual but nevertheless I really like it.
    
    I guess the album must be out soon if it hasnt been released already.
    They gave it a good review in Q but then Im not sure if thats a good
    thing or not.
    
    Tigs

    
    Late review.
    
    I've heard the new Marillion Album "Holidays In Eden" on CD. I have to
    say, that I was very impressed by the first song, which has a fantastic
    groove in the middle. But all the other tracks remembered me back to
    "Seasons End". Same Stuff. Same Guitar (someone should go and show some
    new chords to Steve Rothery, also how he get's able to use other
    sounds), Keyboards (no word on Mark Kelly) and at last same
    Drums, which Ian Mosely's playing in this way since "Clutching At 
    Straws". Sounds really like side three and four of "Seasons End". And
    at last the voice. Ok, it was a hard job to do. But Steve Hogarth
    hasn't that impressed voice like Fish has. So a big part of the music
    get's lost. I was a very big Marillion fan since 1987. But now I don't
    like them anymore. I'm not going to see them live this year, here in
    Hamburg, as I've seen them for 11th times (10th with Fish). It's
    enough. They do the same way like Modern Talking. They do cover their
    own songs. It's only boring stuff.
    
    Now I'm waiting for the release of Fish's new album. Seem's more
    interesting. I've already saved a ticket for his show in December.
    
    That's all...
    
    
    |PETER|_who's_going_to_bury_his_Marillion_past_tonight
    

    
    re:110
    
    I've made a mistake, as I was a big Marillion fan until 1987.
    Not since!
    
    |PETER|
    

    
    Well guys (& gals)
    
    I have just got my fingers on a copy of the latest single and all I can
    really say is that I hope first impressions don't last to long, and may
    be it will grow on me.
    I hear that the album is out here in the UK and suprisingly enough it
    seems to be doing rather well. I have not yet decided if I will go this
    year and see any concerts, I will decide after I have listened to the
    album.
    
    However on the Fishy side, I have some more good info, For those of you
    who remember, Fish combined his talents a few years back with Tony
    Banks of Genesis and release the track "Shortcut to Somewhere", well
    they have teamed up again on Tony's latest Solo Album. Fish is only
    singing 1 track on this LP but I have heard it, and to tell the truth
    it sounds "Damm Good". Very much in the ilk of the early Marillion.
    Fish's new album will be out later on this year (according to all
    rumors), and I belive he has change recording label, so I shall wait
    with bated breath on its arrival. I shall definately be getting my
    ticket for Fish.
    
    Ahh well I better go,
    
    Catch you later
    
    Dave

    Well, clearly their aren't any Market Square Heroes at Digital anymore.
    
    I have to hear from a local pop station that Marillion brought out a new
    CD. 'Sad but true' (Metallica).
    
    Sjaak.

    just in case anyone is still following this note...
    
    by now most  M fans have probably heard/purchased the new Marillion and
    Fish albums (Holidays in Eden and Internal Exile, respectively).
    
    Personally, I like both albums, but they really are pretty mediochre.
    The last tracks are probably the best on "Eden" (This Town, The Rakes
    Progress, 100 nights), although the party is pretty reasonable too.
    Internal exile is a reasonable album as a whole, but no shining
    masterpieces here. I'd class both of them as "Easy Listening", pretty
    sad consodering the grunt that was the old Marillion. Much like Genesis
    really, progress = mellowing = slush.
    
    Oh yeah, Fish performs two tracks on Tony Bank's album "Still". I can't
    remember the first (the name OR the song!), the second is called
    "Another Murder of a Day", you can tell that Fish wrote the lyrics.
    Overall this album is pretty awful...
    
    		The last of a dying breed?
    		
    			Brent.
    

I've heard both Holidays in Eden, and Seasons End, but none of the Fish albums
(except the singles).  I would go so far as to say I like Marillion with Steve
Hogarth, but they are not the same band without Fish.  The last 2 albums
have been more commercial, with standard poppier type songs, but they have 
failed to recapture the chart success they had with Kayleigh.  I have always 
felt they are rather an unfashionable band to like, but that's not stopped me 
before!! :-)  I think that that now, without Fish, they have lost half of their 
uniqueness, because he was such a major influence lyric-wise and a brilliant 
frontman.

I saw Marillion last Christmas at the Town & Country, and enjoyed it.  I would
probably go again if they do a meduim size venue (ie. not Wembley Arena!).
Anyone know if they are doing any Christmas shows this year?

Thanks,
Emma

    
    I used to know a bloke with severe adenoidal problems who was a
    Marillion fan, so when he said it, it came out as "Barilliod" (in a
    Bolton accent). I've always thought of them as that ever since.
    
    Trevor

re.115

I don't know if your interested but Fish is playing the 
T & C on Feb 22nd/23rd 1993.

CHeers

Dave

    
    What is the status of Marillion now? Has Fish joined them again?
    
    
    Hannu

    
    Can't be. They'll having a gig 21.5.1994!
    
    
    Hannu

	They are currently doing a European tour, and will be returning
	to the UK next month to do a few more dates.

	I saw them recently in Aylesbury.  Steve Hogarth is the lead singer
	still.  They played the whole of the new album, Brave, all 70 mins 
	of it!!  Trouble is, that didn't leave much time for the older 
	stuff, which is what I really wanted to hear.  

	Emma

	

    
    	Thanks for information. Just bought tickets for a gig in Helsinki
    	25 th May. Let's see how it is. Maybe Fish joins the band just
    	before that. 8-) (That's called wishful thinking!)
    
    
    
    	Hannu

    re .122
    
    <<	Thanks for information. Just bought tickets for a gig in Helsinki
    <<	25 th May. Let's see how it is. Maybe Fish joins the band just
    <<	before that. 8-) (That's called wishful thinking!)
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Nope, I think that's called Fishful Thinking!!!! :)
    
    Mark

FYI.

Fish will be at HMV Reading on April 12th. He'll be playing, not just signing
Albums.

Al

Headed down to HMV yesterday afternoon to see the man himself.

I expected it to be a quick rendition of his new single, followed by some
signing of whatever, but I was very wrong.

He started at 5pm, with his 2 guitarists, Robin Boult & Frank Usher on 12 & 6
string acoustics resp., with his new single 'Lady Let it lie', then did the 'B'
side 'Out of my life', then a song of his new album, called Suits which comes
out on  May 31st. He then did Sugar Mice and finished with Internal Exile. All
told he played for � hour. I even bought the single, the first single I've
bought since they started coming out on CD ;-)

He also got one of the members of the audience to fix his mike stand when the
leg fell off, and when the girl in front of me refused to clap during The last
song, he came over and made her. A very sound man indeed, definitely not spoiled
by fame.

Al

    
    	Marillion did a very good gig in Helsinki! People were pleased
    	and the band was enjoying to play there. Only exception was
    	when the singer was doing a silent ballad, some a***ole shouted
    	something nasty and the guy left the stage. But after that
    	there were no interrupts.
    
    	Personally I enjoyed the most "Eastern" and "Garden Party".
    
    
    
    	Hannu