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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

410.0. "BLACK ALBUM:PRINCE" by JGO::KWIKKEL () Fri Apr 28 1989 15:38

    Joh'll chaps,
    
    Any news old/new or material,around the mysterious BLACK ALBUM:PRINCE
    in the UK??
    Posible to get a copy:-) or? (no boots)
    
    Lets hear pleezz?
    
    Jan,(the dance music library 1969-20..)
    

                   
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410.1I've got it cutJGO::APETERSBeep Beep !Mon May 01 1989 11:454
Anyone knows how to distinguish an original from a fake? |-\

Andre.
410.2*BLACKY*!! Pfffi�����tt here boy?JGO::KWIKKELMon May 01 1989 14:1231
    YUP.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Oh,sorry Andr�.
    You like to know how?
    Well,the original album cover is all black with "raised relief"
    graphics on  it.
    As for the "boots"copy,it shows Prince him/herself in a black dress.
    
    Here the titles of the songs exactly described as on the original;
    Le Grind
    Cindy C
    Dead on it
    When 2 R in love
    Bob,Ain't that a bitch
    Superfunkycalifragisexi
    2 nigs United for west compton
    Rock hard in a funky place
    
    Anybody else who have more info,pleezz d���whap?? 8^)
    
    Jan,(the dance music lib 1969-20..)
    
    
    
410.3on cd57133::ROBINSONMon May 01 1989 14:1716
    
    There is basically no way that you are going to get an original
    as there are probably less than 100 in existance - however I have
    recently seen TWO different versions on cd (both boots) - one I
    have heard - it is all black with orange lettering and was taken
    from a record or acitate - the sound quality is very good but there
    are pops here and there - it also includes two extra studio out-takes
    - the second version that I have just recently seen has a picture
    of Prince live in concert on the cover and has three bonus live
    tracks 'Purple Rain','1999', and 'Aplhabet St' - If anyone knows
    about the quality on this send me mail.
    
    will
    
    
    
410.4I Saw ItHDSRUS::TALIXMon May 01 1989 19:204
    
    	I saw a copy of the black album in a used record store here
    in the states. I don't know if it was a boot-leg though.
    
410.5I'm hookedJGO::KWIKKELTue May 02 1989 09:548
    Would you mind checkin' this out Dave? RE .4
    Check;  orig/boots
            $$$$$$
            condition
                
    Thank you for replying.
    
    Jan.
410.6It's the boot28143::TALIXTue May 02 1989 16:385
    
    	
    	It's the boot of the album. It has the picture of Prince on
    it. Cost twenty-bucks.
    
410.7All bootsEUCLID::OWENYou Are the EverythingTue May 02 1989 19:048
    
    Since the record company wouldn't release it, Prince took it into
    his own hand to see that thousands of bootlegs pressings were made
    so that his fans could listen to it.  I think that every copy you
    see is a bootleg, just some might sound better, or have more songs,
    than others.
    
    Steve O
410.8All boots? No!JGO::KWIKKELMon May 08 1989 13:4826
    
    Hi there,
    It was my week off last week,but I'm back.
    
    RE.7
    <Prince took it into his own hand to see that thsnds of boot's prssngs
     were made>
    Can you get this backed up with some evidence?
    
    The original BLACK ALBUM is completely recorded and the entire loop
    with; i.e. pressing,packaging was ready to hit the record stores
    for release.
    But his royal badness changed his mind overnight and pulled the
    album from distribution.
    His record company had to recall and store away the large number
    of rec/CDs/tapes that had already been produced for sale,and also,
    a substantial number of copies of the album had been pre-reeased
    to radio and industrie people.
    Eversince there has been a ferm black market business in the selling
    of the BLACK album "bootleg".
    Prince would never be that stupid to initiate a "bootleg" market
    just to see that *his* revenues will go to third party's.
    Reason for his action to withdraw the BLACK album was because of
    rumours that the album would be too mean spirited.
    
    Jan(the dance music lib 1969-20..) 
410.9Updates...updates...JGO::KWIKKELThe dance music library 1969-20..Tue Feb 20 1990 16:3526
    Hi all,
    
    I thought,`why not an update reply?'
    
    News is that the Black album:Prince is getting more popular as it
    is aging.
    Yes,I'm still on the hunt for a original copy and it is possible
    *still*
    The only copy that concerns me(as I said)is the one that has an
    all black outer sleeve with raised relief spelling`Black Album'
    The label that it is released on is "Erotic city" with it's 
    record number NO(1)R-69-a/b
    
    Just recently one original popped up on a second hand record swap
    venue in a mall,I asked if he would sell it to me...but no.
    
    Rumor has it that new copies(booty's from the original of good quality)
    U.K. made are going to hit the streets soon,and that maybe in the
    next 5 or 6 weeks from now.
    
    If anybody hears of it,please note in here?
    Well,back to my hunt.
    
    Talk later,
    YO!
    Jan.
410.10ScandalousSHAPES::FIDDLERMTue Feb 20 1990 16:416
    I'd be interested in hearing it too...does anyone have a tape I could
    borrow?
    
    Mikef
    
    
410.11WOTVAX::HARRISCOn the road to INFINITY Thu Mar 01 1990 08:4711
    
RE .9
>   The only copy that concerns me(as I said)is the one that has an
>   all black outer sleeve with raised relief spelling`Black Album'
    
    I saw TWO copies just like you describe at a record fair last Saturday,
    they were going for 12quid each.  If the original Black Album is as rare
    as you say they must have been bootlegs!
    
    ..Craig
    
410.12Auction of Black AlbumVOGON::TRACYBThis Town Needs An Enema!!!Tue Feb 26 1991 09:5827
	Christie's recently had a auction of rock items under the hammer was:

	Prince - Plain Sleeved cop of Black Album
	
				Sold for 935 pounds


	I hope that this was an original, for the sake of the buyer.

				  <------->

	re -last couple

	You can get good quality copies of the Black Album now. I have
	a bootleg of it on CD and the quality is Excellent almost as good
	as an official release.(it also contains 8 outtakes of various Prince
 	tracks which are also of surprisingly good quality)

	Brian.

	One more thing: 1999 has been digitally remastered on CD and DMSR 
	(which was originally missing from the first release) has now been 
	included. It has already been released in the states so expect a 
	UK release pretty soon. Lets hope they don't charge 13 quid for it
	again. By the way Warner Bros. are not allowing trade-ins on the 
	original release.
410.13Auction of Black AlbumVOGON::TRACYBThis Town Needs An Enema!!!Tue Feb 26 1991 09:5827
	Christie's recently had a auction of rock items under the hammer was:

	Prince - Plain Sleeved cop of Black Album
	
				Sold for 935 pounds


	I hope that this was an original, for the sake of the buyer.

				  <------->

	re -last couple

	You can get good quality copies of the Black Album now. I have
	a bootleg of it on CD and the quality is Excellent almost as good
	as an official release.(it also contains 8 outtakes of various Prince
 	tracks which are also of surprisingly good quality)

	Brian.

	One more thing: 1999 has been digitally remastered on CD and DMSR 
	(which was originally missing from the first release) has now been 
	included. It has already been released in the states so expect a 
	UK release pretty soon. Lets hope they don't charge 13 quid for it
	again. By the way Warner Bros. are not allowing trade-ins on the 
	original release.
410.14Another obscure Prince action...JGODCL::KWIKKELThe dance music library 1969-20..Wed Feb 27 1991 08:5512
    Re-1
    
    Gee thanks for your info Brian regarding the Black album.
    Another recent case that occured of which I would like to have a copy
    of is a by mistake released single of Mica Paris called"If I love U 2
    nite".It seems that on the "B" side of this single a mistake was made. 
    A "demo" cut that Prince offered to Mica Paris last year was acciden-
    tally pressed on that "B" side.The mistake was discovered when allready
    200 copies have been distributed to clients.I don't know if these were
    12" singles.
    
    Jan.
410.15VOGON::TRACYBThis Town Needs An Enema!!!Wed Feb 27 1991 09:0921
	re -1 

	Jan,

	Regarding the "If I Love U 2 Nite" pressing. I believe it was
	the 12" promo that had the Prince version on it. Of course it
	was sent out to all the Radio stations/music mags etc so the 
	only chance of getting hold of one is if they decide to make 
	some money by selling it.

	I heard that Mica's record company has asked for all copies of 
	the promo to be returned so they can be destroyed. Would you 
	return a copy of single were only 200 copies had been produced?
	They must think there are some very honest people out there.
	It sounds like another Black album to me.

	How much would you consider paying for this item if you had the 
	chance to buy one?

	Brian	
410.16JGODCL::KWIKKELThe dance music library 1969-20..Wed Feb 27 1991 12:158
    re-1
    
    How much I would pay for a copy?...uuhhhmmmm first I'll try all my 
    sources(pools,membership mail listings)to get a copy for free.
    otherwise I'll start off with the normal sale price tag.
    ;^) 
    
    Jan.
410.17VOGON::TRACYBThis Town Needs An Enema!!!Wed Feb 27 1991 12:4610
	re -1

	Well if you can get one for normal sale price I'd like to meet
	the person that sold it to you!

	If you can get hold of a two copies I'd very interested in buying
	it one off you.

	Brian.
410.18JGODCL::KWIKKELThe dance music library 1969-20..Wed Mar 13 1991 11:407
    RE's
    
    Brian...regarding the Mica Paris cut with the exclusive B-side
    yup it is not possible to collect a copy via the normal channels.
    we have to go a step up. ;)
    
    Jan.
410.19Latest on Black CDVOGON::TRACYBThis Town Needs An Enema!!!Wed Apr 10 1991 10:1825


	Latest on buying an 'original' Black Album.

	An advert appears in the April issue of 'Record Collector' from
	an American dealer('Rockaway Too') Who is auctioning the following:

              ========================================================

				 	PRINCE
			      THE BLACK ALBUM (WB25677)

		Mega-rare recalled 1987 U.S. compact disc album with
		8 songs in jewel box with front  and  back  inserts,
		NOT A BOOTLEG! Mint condition, Minimum bid  $1000

		Bidding deadline: April 30 1991

              ========================================================


	Anybody interested? :-)  

	Brian.