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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 362.1 | | COMICS::HUDSON | that's what I think | Thu Mar 09 1989 09:24 | 24 |
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I have both Propaganda albums, "A Secret Wish" and "Wishful Thinking"
on CD, although I've only seen the second of those in London, so
I don't know how available it is. Both the CD version and LP version
of that album have the same note saying that the album is a limited
edition. I also have 12"s of P-Machinery, Dr. Mabuse and Duel (which
has the absolute best version of the track on it).
I have the Act CD "Laughter Tears and Rage", plus a mini-cd of "I
can't Escape" and a 12" of "Snobbery and Decay". Given the fact
that both bands are ZTT, there are probably several other remixes
etc., that I don't have.
Propaganda are far better than Act, although any band with Claudia
Brucken is worth listening to. Did anyone see either band live?
I haven't heard anything about Propaganda getting back together
- I had thought that the split had been pretty final. But I'd
certainly like to hear more of them and see them too if possible.
Does anyone have any more information on what's gone on/going on
with Propaganda?
nick
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| 362.2 | why does it hurt when my heart misses the beat | ISLNDS::ROBINSON | | Thu Mar 09 1989 13:47 | 14 |
|
As far as the cd of A Secret Wish there are two different versions
the UK and the the US the Uk has different mixes and is longer
(probably the better of the two) - the US version is the same as
the vinal version - but a must-have if you are a fanatic.
There are also two Japanese 3" cds of different remixes that I
have been trying desperatly to get my hands on (to no avail) -
imports are getting harder to get in the US.
For Act I have the two cd eps and LT&R - although I would have
to say that Act aren't as good as Propaganda the long mixes of
I can't escape from you and Snobbery & Decay are very close.
will
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| 362.3 | | COMICS::HUDSON | that's what I think | Thu Mar 09 1989 16:44 | 5 |
| re: .2
What are the two Act cd eps that you have?
nick
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| 362.4 | he's buying them all - in cash.. | 57133::ROBINSON | | Fri Mar 10 1989 16:05 | 19 |
|
re. -1
one is 'Snobbery & Decay' with 3 versions of S&D and the track Poison
(I think)
the other is (and I useally get the title wrong) - 'I Can't Escape
From You' or maybie 'You Won't forget Me' - it has the Smiths tune
on it 'Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now' on it - I had heard that
the 'Chance' ep was being advertised in the UK music rags but haven't
seen it.
- Both of the above are UK imports.
will
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| 362.5 | No Luck for me | AYOU08::BELL | | Wed Apr 19 1989 12:13 | 14 |
|
What's the scoop on Wishfull Thinking?
I only have the LP A Secret Wish and I think it's exellent.
I have tried to get Wishfull Thinking but can never find it!
I have also tried to find Act but, again, to no avail.
I heard Act on the radio a while ago now, and, although not as good
as Propaganda, I still thought they were very good.
Stuart B...
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| 362.6 | for those who heed the call of the machine | 57133::ROBINSON | | Wed Apr 19 1989 16:07 | 17 |
|
Wishful Thinking is a disc of radical re-mixes of songs off the
'Secret Wish' disc - it is available on lp and cd. The Act disc
'Laughter, Tears & Rage' is also out on the above formats - it's
very good - but not as good as Propaganda.
While I was in NYC I picked up one of the two japanese 3" Propaganda
cds (the first and only one I have ever seen) - it has:
P: Machinery (Polish) 9:18
P: Machinery (Passive) 3:?
Frozen Faces (remix) 5:?
all this for a steep $22 - but for some of the best music ever....
will
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| 362.7 | more propaganda about.... | WOTVAX::MOOREP | | Tue Jun 06 1989 21:07 | 35 |
| PROPAGANDA
A highly acclaimed band, much deservedly so.
Extremely (well) produced. I had the pleasure of seeing them live
in '86(I think) at Salford University.
I have a pretty full collection of their stuff. In typical ZTT fashion
there exists more often than not at least two different 12" mixes
of the same single and these are much sought after collector's items
which can fetch quite a lot. Refer to Record Collector Magazine.
The afore-said magazine recently printed a discography for
Propaganda/Act and I will willingly type this on these notes if
requested.
They were produced by Trevor Horn(he was the Buggles in"Video Killed
The Radio Star")and Stephen Lipson who have both recently worked
with The Pet Shop Boys ("Left To My Own Devices"), Simple Minds
("Belfast Child" etc) and Paul McCartney.
Propaganda got into a bit of trouble with copyright laws with there
album track "Dream Within A Dream" which is an Edgar Allen Poe poem
put to music.
Claudia Brucken got hitched to Paul Morley (he's the one that writes
all those cryptic sleeve notes), left the band and formed Act with
Thomas Leer.
Suzanne Freytag has left the band completely, and the two remaining
members have taken on an American female vocalist and are currently
signed to TEN RECORDS - no release as of yet.
********See next reply for ACT************
Peter (Heaven 17 maniac)
P.S. did you know that there is a link between Heaven 17 and Propaganda
.......Glenn Gregory and Claudia Brucken duetted in the single "When
Your Heart Runs Out Of Time"
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| 362.8 | Getting their act together... | WOTVAX::MOOREP | | Tue Jun 06 1989 21:33 | 21 |
| ACT
As I mentioned in the previous reply, Act is made up of former
Propaganda band member Claudia Brucken and Thomas Leer who was a
former solo Jazz Musician.
Produced in the same excellent vein as Propaganda, they have a good
following although they have had little or no chart success.
Currently on the ZTT label, they have released numerous remixes
of the same single and these, like Propaganda singles fetch grand
amounts.
Compact Disc "Laughter Tears And Rage" has an extra track "The Third
Planet". All singles released so far have spawned two 12" remixes.
ZTT planned to release "Chance" as a single and indeed went as far
as promoting the record by releasing 12"s of the track to DJs.
This was however so far never been officially released and it is
worth a bomb!
I have two copies of the 12" remix "Absolutely Immune II" - anybody
interested in a copy ?
Peter (Heaven 17 Maniac)
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| 362.9 | you won't forget me | ISLNDS::ROBINSON | | Wed Jun 07 1989 19:39 | 7 |
|
What is 'Absolutly Immune II' - do you have the 'Echoes of Frozen
Faces' 12" - I have been searching for that mix - I would also like
a copy of that Record Collector - care to make me a copy. I will
post a PROPAGANDA & ACT discography next.
will
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| 362.10 | some info | ISLNDS::ROBINSON | | Wed Jun 07 1989 19:48 | 389 |
|
(compiled by myself, E. Longmire and others)
Propaganda: Dr. Mabuse
7": ZTT ZTAS 2 (UK 1984) ["Propaganda Present Dr. Mabuse"]
Dr. Mabuse (a paranoid fantasy)
Dr. Mabuse Der Spieler (an international incident)
7": ZTT ZTAS 2 A-X1 (UK 1984)
Dr. Mabuse (Instrumental) (5:18)
Dr. Mabuse Der Spieler
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 2 <?> (UK 1984)
Das Testament Des Mabuse (13th Life)
Femme Fatale (The Woman With The Orchid) (3:19)
(the ninth life of...) Dr. Mabuse (4:06)
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 2A-2U (UK 1984)
The 13th Life Of Dr. Mabuse
Das Testament Des Mabuse
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 2A-3U (UK 1984)
Das Testaments Des Mabuse (6:34)
Femme Fatale (The Woman With The Orchid) (3:19)
(the ninth life of...) Dr. Mabuse (4:06)
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 2-DJ (UK 1984) [promo]
Dr. Mabuse (remix)
The Last Word
Femme Fatale
(the ninth life of...) Dr. Mabuse
MC: ZTT CTIS 101 (UK 1984)
Das Testament Des Mabuse
The Last Word
Dr. Mabuse
CD3: Polystar <?> (Japan 1988)
Video:
"Dr. Mabuse" featuring scene stills from the Fritz Lang movies.
Notes:
Number 2 in ZTT's Action Series.
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Propaganda: Duel
7": ZTT ZTAS 8 (UK 1985)
7"PD: ZTT PZTAS 8 (UK 1985) [shaped picture disk]
Duel
Jewel
2x7": ZTT DUAL 1 (UK 1985) [gatefold double-pack]
Duel
Jewel
Lied [remix of "Dr. Mabuse"] (
The Lesson [remix of "The Chase"] (
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 8 (UK 1985)
12"PD: ZTT 12 PZTAS 8 (UK 1985)
Duel (bitter-sweet) (
Jewel (cut-rough) (
12": ZTT PROP 1 (UK 1985) [promo]
Bejewelled
Dewel
Duel (bitter-sweet)
MC: ZTT CTIS 108 (UK 1985)
Do Well
Wonder
Video:
"Duel" featuring Claudia Brucken in love at a restaurant.
"Duel" [subtitled], the same video but with lots of words from
the song placed in the screen in assorted colors and styles.
Notes:
Number 8 in ZTT's Action Series.
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ZTT: The Value Of Entertainment (time capsule version)
Videotape: ZTT The Video Label (UK 1987)
Laserdisc: PolyGram MusicVideo SM058-3082 (Japan 1986; NTSC)
Propaganda: Dream Within A Dream
Instinct: Sweat To Pay
Anne Pigalle: He Stranger
Propaganda: Dr. Mabuse
Art of Noise: Beat Box
Paul Morley: (talking)
Art of Noise: Close (To The Edit)
Chris Langham: (talking)
digest of songs: Keep The Dream/Via Vagabond/Duel
Propaganda: P:machinery
[one side/47m/CLV/CX Stereo]
Notes:
Number 10 in ZTT's Action Series.
A concert video featuring highlights from the "Value Of Entertainment"
show ZTT held in late 1985. The Art of Noise do not actually
appear; the AoN cuts listed are as background to two works of
interpretive dance.
The UK videocassette is slightly shorter, at 35m.
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Propaganda: p:Machinery
7": ZTT ZTAS 12 (UK 1985)
7"PD: ZTT PZTAS 12 (UK 1985)
p:Machinery (
Frozen Faces (
7": ZTT ZTAS 12-DJ (UK 1985) [promo]
p:Machinery (Stereo)
p:Machinery (Mono)
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 12<?> (UK 1985)
p:Pawn
p:Pearl
p:Machinery (Beta)
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 12 (UK 1985)
12": ZTT 12 PZTAS 12 (UK 1985) [clear vinyl]
CD3: Polystar <?> (Japan 1988)
p:Machinery (polish)
p:Machinery (passive)
Frozen Faces
12": ZTT 12 XZTAS 12 (UK 1985)
p:Machinery (Beta)
p:Machinery (passive)
Frozen Faces
12": ZTT 12 ZTAST 12 (UK 1985) [double-pack w/poster]
[Includes 12 PZTAS 12, 12 XZTAS 12, poster]
12": Island 0-96835 (US 1985)
p:Machinery (Beta) (9:20)
p:Machinery (3:42) [remix]
Frozen Faces (5:30) [extended]
MC: ZTT CTIS 102 (UK 1985) ["Complete Machinery"]
Introduction
p:Machinery (Connected)
p:Machinery (Separation)
Frozen Faces
Video:
"p:Machinery" directed by Zbigniew Rybczynski.
Notes:
Number 12 in ZTT's Action Series.
ZTT SAMPLED lists "p:Machinery/Femme Fatale" as 12 ZTAS 2 <?>.
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Propaganda: A SECRET WISH
LP: ZTT ZTTIQ 3 (UK 1985)
MC: ZTT ZCIQ 3 (UK 1985)
CD: Island 7 90288-2 (US 1987)
Dream Within A Dream (8:03)
The Murder Of Love (5:13)
Jewel (3:07)
Duel (4:41)
p:Machinery (3:50)
Sorry For Laughing (3:27)
Dr. Mabuse (first life) (4:57)
The Chase (4:05)
The Last Word/Strength To Dream (2:59)
CD: ZTT CID 126 (UK 1985)
CD: ZTT/Island 610 540-222 (W. Germany 1985)
Dream Within A Dream (9:08) [ext. remix]
The Murder Of Love (5:13)
Jewel (6:23) *
Duel (4:41)
Frozen Faces (4:25)
p:Machinery (3:50)
Sorry For Laughing (3:27)
The Chase (4:05)
Dr. Mabuse [including Strength To Dream] (10:42) [extended]
* Identical to "Jewel (cut-rough)" except that it's missing the
intro from the 12" version.
Notes:
Number 13 in ZTT's Action Series.
The two CD versions are packaged identically despite the different
track listings. US version has blue "ISLAND" printed on the
disc; Euroversion has dress form printed on the disc.
UK cassette version may be slightly different.
A five-track promo version is supposed to exist.
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Glenn Gregory & Claudia Brucken: When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time
7": ZTT ZTAS 15 (UK 1985)
7"PD: ZTT PZTAS 15 (UK 1985)
When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time
When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time (drumless)
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 15 (UK 1985)
When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time
(voices of) When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time (6:20)
When Your Heart Runs Out Of Time (drumless)
Forever (What The Hell)
Notes:
Number 15 in ZTT's Action Series.
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Various: ZTT SAMPLED
LP: ZTT IQ 6 (UK 1985)
MC: ZTT IQC 6 (UK 1985)
Art of Noise: Closing (1:11)
Frankie Goes To Hollywood: Disneyland (2:40)
Propaganda: Femme Fatale (3:15)
Anne Pigalle: Intermission (3:10)
Instinct: Swamp Out (3:30)
Art of Noise: Egypt (0:46)
Andrew Poppy: Object Is A Hungry Wolf (ext. 1) (3:56)
Propaganda: p:Machinery (Beta) (7:55)
Anne Pigalle: Looking For Love (4:04)
Art of Noise: A Time For Fear (who's afraid) (5:22)
Frankie Goes To Hollywood: Born To Run (live) (5:00)
Andrew Poppy: Object Is A Hungry Wolf (ext. 2) (1:41)
Notes:
Number 18 in ZTT's Action Series.
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Propaganda: WISHFUL THINKING
LP: ZTT ZAS 20 (UK 1985)
MC: ZTT CZAS 20 (UK 1985)
CD: ZTT ZCID Q20 (UK 1988)
abuse (3:29)
machined (6:54)
laughed (8:54)
loving (0:46)
jewelled (7:48)
loved (6:43)
abuse (4:17)
thought (2:42)
Notes:
Number 20 in ZTT's Action Series.
A collection of remixes of five Propaganda songs: "Dr. Mabuse,"
"p:Machinery," "Sorry For Laughing," "Duel," and "The Murder
Of Love," plus other short snippets. All mixes are unique
to this collection.
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Propaganda: p:Machinery (remix)
7": ZTT ZTAS 21 (UK 1985)
p:Machinery (remix)
Frozen Faces
12": ZTT 12 ZTAS 21 (UK 1985)
(the beta wraparound of) p:Machinery (
(echo of) Frozen Faces (
Notes:
Number 21 in ZTT's Action Series.
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Act: Snobbery and Decay
7": ZTT ZTAS 28 (UK 1987)
Snobbery And Decay
Poison
12": ZTT 12 ZACT 28 (UK 1987) [gatefold sleeve]
Snobbery and Decay (That's Entertainment!)
Poison (4:01)
I'd Be Surprisingly Good For You (4:15)
12": ZTT 12 XACT 28 (UK 1987) [includes 10x20 poster]
(the naked civil) Snobbery and Decay ( *
Strong Poison (
(theme from) Snobbery and Decay (3:25)
* Featuring samples from the MOONLIGHTING TV show.
12": ZTT CT 01 (UK 1987) [promo/"Herbie (From Mastermind)"]
Snobbery and Decay (Moonlighting Mix) *
1 Instat [instrumental]
2 Instat [instrumental]
* Possibly "(the naked civil) Snobbery & Decay"?
CD: ZTT CID 28 (UK 1987) [gatefold paperboard sleeve]
Snobbery and Decay (extended) (8:36)
I'd Be Surprisingly Good For You (4:15)
Poison (4:01)
(theme from) Snobbery and Decay (3:25)
MC: ZTT CTIS 28 (UK 1987) ["Cabaret Cassette!"]
Snobbery and Decay (That's Entertainment!)
Poison (4:01)
(theme from) Snobbery And Decay (3:25)
I'd Be Surprisingly Good For You (4:15)
Notes:
Number 28 (and possibly the last) in ZTT's Action Series.
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Act: Absolutely Immune
7": ZTT IMM 1 (UK 1987)
Absolutely Immune (
Bloodrush (
12": ZTT TIMM 1 (UK 1987)
Absolutely Immune
White Rabbit
Bloodrush
12": ZTT VIMM 1 (UK 1987)
Absolutely Immune II (
Bloodrush (
States Of Logic (
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Act: I Can't Escape From You
7": ZTT IMM 2 (UK 1988)
I Can't Escape From You
Dear Life
12": ZTT TIMM 2 (UK 1988)
MC: ZTT VIMM 2 (UK 1988)
I Can't Escape From You (love and hate) (7:24)
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (3:53)
Theme From I Can't Escape...
Dear Life (3:19)
CD: ZTT CDIMM 2 (UK 1988)
I Can't Escape From You (love and hate) (7:24)
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (3:53)
Dear Life (3:19)
I Can't Escape From You (3:09)
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Act: LAUGHTER, TEARS AND RAGE
LP: ZTT ZQLP1 (UK 1988)
CD: ZTT ZQCD1 (UK 1988)
Absolutely Immune (4:37)
Chance (4:22)
Laughter (3:58)
I Can't Escape From You (3:06)
Poison (3:58) *
Under The Nights Of Germany (4:35)
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now (3:53) *
The 3rd Planet (4:26) *
Gestures (4:00)
Bloodrush (4:12) *
A Friendly Warning (3:25)
Certified (4:30)
Where Love Lies Bleeding (3:20)
Snobbery And Decay (5:06)
* CD-only bonus tracks
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Act: Chance
Notes:
Never officially released, but some promo copies exist.
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ANNOUNCED BUT NOT RELEASED: ZTT's cluttered back room
Courtesy of Kristian Bartholdsson
7"/12": Art and Act: "Life's A Barrel Of Laughs" [Art of Noise]
LP: Claudia Brucken: "Plastic and Physical"
LP: Act: "Winner '88" [dance remixes]
ZANGLETTE: Art and Act: "A Decent Way"
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| 362.11 | ...that's what I call a Propa discography! | TMCUKR::MOOREP | | Thu Jun 08 1989 17:28 | 25 |
| "Absolutely Immune II" is the 2nd 12" mix of the Act single....You
mention it in your discography!! It's different in that it has a
long instrumental introduction and has the otherwise unavailable
track "States Of Logic" on the B side.
I must say, I am thoroughly impressed with your concise discography
- Record Collector's just does not compare ... but it gives values.
I will post you on a photocopy if you wish.
Incidentally, why not write to ZTT office - they are very co-operative
and even posted me on signed promo photos.
I'm new to Digital and could just not believe it when I came across
thes notes on Propaganda/Act. I'm based in Warrington ...and you??
I have a copy of P Machinery/Echoes of Frozen Faces but I daren't
part with it "cause it's part of mi collection"...(Very nearly
complete)
I must admit, I'm yet to see a Propaganda/Act video but I have a
tape of ACT's appearance on BBC's Tomorrow's World when they were
in the studio with Stephen Lipson.
Peter
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| 362.12 | | 57133::ROBINSON | | Thu Jun 08 1989 20:36 | 6 |
|
I'm in Boxborough Ma USA - my collection of P/A is all the cds except
one of the Propaganda 3"s - I also have P: Mach. on video and a
poor copy of 'Time Capsule' taken from the Japanese laserdisc.
will
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| 362.13 | | WOTVAX::MOOREP | | Thu Jun 08 1989 22:55 | 11 |
| "Absolutely Immune II" 12" (valued around 15 pounds sterling) is
yours if you can help me track down a 12" by the american artist
Jeff Levy - "United State Of Beat" - it was never released in Britain
but just so happens to be produced by Martyn Ware from my other
fave group Heaven 17 (He's recently produced for Terence Trent D'Arby).
This Martyn Ware has also worked with Dan Hartman, but again, the
stuff produced by Ware has never been released over here in Britain.
My collection of Heaven 17/Martyn Ware Productions is very
extensive, but there are still some gaps to fill.
Peter (Warrington,Nr. Manchester, Britain)
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| 362.14 | Propaganda for Frankie | STP::ANDERSON | A dozen White Castles please! | Fri Jun 16 1989 22:46 | 16 |
| And where does the medley of P.Machinery and Relax come in? Was this a
remix by a third party or was anyone in Propaganda or Frankie Goes to
Hollywood involved?
The record is a 12" on Emergency Records (EMDS 6562), issued in 1986,
titled "Propaganda for Frankie":
Side A: P.Machinery / Relax (6:42)
Side B: Deejay (3:30)
P.Machinery / Relax (radio edit) (4:10)
Quite an interesting record, especially if you're both a Propaganda and
Frankie fan, as myself.
Paul
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| 362.15 | Italian Medley | WOTVAX::MOOREP | | Tue Jun 20 1989 11:11 | 6 |
| "Propaganda for Frankie" - once had a copy of this.It's a completely
independent production without involvement
from either of the original artists. Methinks it is on an Italian
label.
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| 362.16 | | ISLNDS::ROBINSON | | Wed Jun 21 1989 15:20 | 11 |
|
Actually I think the record company is out of NYC - I have the 12"
and think that the music is utter crap.
About a year ago it was reported by a couple of sources (including
Q) that Propaganda was recording another album (supposedly due to
unfulfilled contract obligations on ZTT) - anybody hear anything
about this?
will
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| 362.17 | .....just Wishful Thinking | WOTVAX::MOOREP | PM | Thu Jul 27 1989 15:54 | 11 |
| The Holly Johnson (Frankie Goes To Hollywood) V. ZTT case set legal
precedence, and because ZTT lost the case I can't see them trying
to force Propaganda back into the studio. This assumption rings
true because in my correspondence with ZTT press office, they spoke
of Propaganda being signed up to TEN Records. The line up now being
Michael Mertens, Ralf Dorper and an american female vocalist. Claudia
has stayed loyal to ZTT having married into the company. Suzanne
Freytag has apparently gone back to the jewelry trade in Germany....
so I'm afraid it may just be wishful thinking that they were back
recording in their old vein with ZTT.
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| 362.18 | Kino's "Room In My Heart" | WOTVAX::MOOREP | PM | Tue Aug 01 1989 15:11 | 7 |
| Andreas Thein, part of the original line up of Propaganda joined
Schengel and Sarah Gregory (wife of Glenn Gregory from Heaven 17)
to form Kino. They released just the one single in 1985(?)
"Room In My Heart" which flopped - a mighty shame since it was a
brilliant track in the style of Propaganda.
I think they disbanded soon after due to lack of success with this
first single.
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| 362.19 | New Album !!!!!!!!!! | WOTVAX::MOOREP | I hate having to balance my cheque book ! | Tue Apr 03 1990 11:12 | 8 |
| On sifting through the small print adverts of April edition of RECORD COLLECTOR,
came across the line
PROPAGANDA, New Album ...Ring to hear.
Now this is good news !
Must keep a look out for this one in the record shops !
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| 362.20 | ok | ISLNDS::ROBINSON | Gravity's Rainbow | Tue Apr 03 1990 15:09 | 5 |
|
Let me know when you hear _anything_ about this - I have been
hearing roumors about a new album - but....
will
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| 362.21 | New Single | WOTVAX::MOOREP | I hate having to balance my cheque book ! | Wed Apr 04 1990 14:44 | 5 |
| Went into a record shop today and saw a display made up of stapled 12" sleeves.
- Non other than the new Propaganda single which is entitled something like
"Heaven Is The Word". Not sure what label they are on. Asked at the counter
and was shown a demo. Mustn't be released yet.
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| 362.22 | ? | XSTACY::PATTISON | Help m'boab. | Wed Apr 04 1990 18:36 | 1 |
| With or without Thomas Leer?
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| 362.23 | well | ISLNDS::ROBINSON | Gravity's Rainbow | Wed Apr 04 1990 22:15 | 3 |
|
And was Trever producing? (on the ZTT label?)
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| 362.24 | "Heaven Give Me Words" | WOTVAX::MOOREP | I hate having to balance my cheque book ! | Fri Apr 06 1990 14:59 | 5 |
| Went to that record shop again today. Still not released.
"Accidentally" knocked down one of the stapled sleeves from the display.
Proper title is "Heaven Give Me Words" and the band is now on the Virgin Label,
therefore no longer produced by Trevor Horn/Steven Lipsom.
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| 362.25 | uh oh | ISLNDS::ROBINSON | Gravity's Rainbow | Mon Apr 09 1990 19:02 | 7 |
|
I heard that the song was not too good and that the only remaining
band member was Micheal M. (?)
I don't know about this...
will
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| 362.26 | Sounds like Madonna ! | WOTVAX::MOOREP | I hate having to balance my cheque book ! | Mon Apr 09 1990 21:01 | 11 |
|
It wouldn't surprise me if Michael Mertens was the only surviving member.
Apparently the new girl singer is from The States and she doesn't half
sound like Madonna. I still can't get hold of the record, but my record
shop says they will have it on Wednesday. They are on Key 103 (local Radio
station) tomorrow night, which someone is taping for me...Hopefully!
Heard an excerpt from what must have been the 12". Long instrumental start,
very guitary and has a really modern feel to it. From the bit I heard, I
like it very much.
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| 362.27 | More News | WOTVAX::MOOREP | I hate having to balance my cheque book ! | Wed Apr 11 1990 16:19 | 15 |
| The only surviving members of Propaganda are Michael Mertens and Ralf Dorper,
and even Ralf is now only a "ghost member" (still works for a bank in
Dusseldorf). New recruits are a female singer called Betsy and two ex-Simple
Minds members Brian and Derek. Derek played bass on P-Machinery and also
toured with the original line-up.
Don't sound too vastly different from the original Propaganda, probably
because Michael Mertens is let loose on percussion again.
Howard Jones was also involved in the new single "Heaven Give Me Words"
Producers are Ian Stanley and Chris Hughes (Tears For Fears producers).
Me likes very much !
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| 362.28 | Just bought the new "1234" CD | FUNYET::ANDERSON | Everything counts in large amounts | Wed Jun 20 1990 23:28 | 3 |
| If I had wanted a Madonna album I would have bought a Madonna album.
I am very disappointed.
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| 362.29 | Give it a chance ! | WOTVAX::MOOREP | Does "Mist" perfume sell in Germany ? | Thu Jun 21 1990 10:12 | 15 |
| Give it another few listens. To tell you the truth I felt the same way on first
hearing but I now really rate this album. I think that an album you like on
first hearing tends to be one that you tire of easily. This one grows on you.
I personally think it's a bit of a masterpiece - full of wonderfully textured
sounds. Don't you think the final track (La Morte, Il Carne et Il Diablo)
sounds rather like the theme tune to the LLoyd George series ?? Stirring stuff !
I reckon How Much Love is a potential single but needs slightly remixing or
shortening.
The music is in the same vein as the early Propaganda stuff except a lot poppier
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| 362.30 | Claudia gone solo | WOTVAX::MOOREP | Hunger is the fear of greed. | Wed Jul 25 1990 18:34 | 3 |
| Claudia Bruecken new solo single pending release !
Not sure if she is still on ZTT.
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| 362.31 | The First Cut Won't Hurt At All | WOTVAX::MOOREP | I'm On A Snake, And You're On A Ladder.... | Tue Dec 21 1993 17:17 | 1 |
| Desperately awaiting re-release of Propaganda's Duel
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| 362.32 | | UKARC1::HUDSON | That's what I think | Wed Dec 22 1993 09:13 | 3 |
| re: Duel
Have you heard that it's going to be re-released then? Any details?
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| 362.33 | YEP !~ | WOTVAX::MOOREP | I'm On A Snake, And You're On A Ladder.... | Wed Dec 22 1993 10:16 | 5 |
| I've been told Radio 1 keep playing it, and that it is due for re-release,
I suppose probably 1st/2nd week in the new year. Don't know whether its (yet
another) re-mix though or whether its the original mix.
Peter
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