Conference marvin::uk_music

	Great history - although I can't continue it...

	I have Stiffs Live and some Pink Fairies on another compilation.

	Wow!

	Unfortunately I can't follow on from '77.

	 However I do have "Kill 'em and Eat 'em" their latest album from '87
	and most of their earlier material as well.

	 The relationship between The 'Fairies, Hawkwind and Motorhead is an 
	interseting one, a friend of mine followed The 'Fairies and Hawkwind
	in their early days when apparently both bands used two drummers when
	playing live and a various assortment of other musicians; mainly because
	they took it in turns to support one another at pub gigs and the two
	drummers were the only two who always turned up - therefore they both
	played both sets!

	Incidentally, the first Motorhead single 'Motorhead' is actually a
	Hawkwind track written by Lemmy (Kilminster), from which the band took
	their name, I believe I'm correct in saying that I saw Motorhead's first
	official gig - supporting Hawkwind at The Victoria Hall, Hanley in Stoke
	-on-Trent circa '76.

	Hope this helps some.

					Graham_the_all_electric_hippy.

    Aha! A man with the most recent Fairies LP!!
    
    So, Graham, what's it like? Truth to tell, I've not bought it so
    as to avoid disappointment..
    
    Nick
    
    ps. Ken, this makes three replies. Talk about exceeding our wildest
    dreams!! 

    The Motorhead story starts in a Canadian Jail, may 75 when Lemmy was
    busted. Because of this, he is sacked by Hawkwind. 
     
    June 75 sees Lemmy announce a new band - Bastard - but a modicum of
    reason prevailed and he called it Motorhead (US slang for speed freak).
    The original line-up was Lemmy, Lucas Fox and larry Wallis.
    
    July 75 ses their first gig, supporting Greenslade at the Roundhouse
    (some support!). Melody maker reviewed them thus: "avoiding any
    potentially confusing variations in tone or key...seamless wall of
    noise...you won't enjoy the band until youv'e had a frontal lobotomy"
    
    between August and September they played the odd gig, as Wallis kept
    returning to the Pink Fairies.
    
    October 75 they support Blue Oyster Cult at Hammersmith and MM again 
    said "this band have no chance of success or even playing in tune".
    
    December 75 Phil Taylor joins to replace Fox. Their albumis recorded
    and considered unsuitable by UA. It languishes in a vault for 4 years.
    
    February 76, Wallis finally leaves to be replaced by Fast Eddie Clarke.
    March to November they do the odd gig, record a single for Stiff which
    isn't released, and finally by April 77 announce a farewell gig at the
    Marquee. 
    
    However, Chiswick boss Ted carroll persuades the band to keep going,
    the band finally get their first real tour, supporting Hawkwind and
    Chiswick release both a single (Motorhead/City Kids) and album (Motorhead).
    
    The Hawkwind story is something else again...like the band were
    subjected to police investigation 68 times in the first two years and
    never found where they stashed the stuff.
    
    Ken
    
    PS - Nick, I wonder if we'll reach double figures?

    A slight side-track (though not much). Motorhead recorded on Bronze,
    (I think) whose logo on the centre label of the record is an ape
    evolving into a man. As someone said about one of the Motorhead
    records: "listening to this record could reverse the process".
    
    Nick
    
    ps Ken, double figures? No problem - we're half-way there already

    This is some more background info to the whole Hawkind Pink Motor
    Fairies Calvert Head Sonic whatevers. This bit takes you from 1967 and
    leaves you in the early seventies. Anyone want to continue the story?
    
In 1967 Dave Brock and Mick Slattery had been in an acid-rock band Famous Cure,
who had an "almost hit" in Holland. It was in Holland that they met Nik Turner,
who was on the road with Mobile Freakout. By mid-69, Brock had reverted to
busking for his income but was forming a band. Nik, who owned a van was
invited and along with Terry Ollis, Dik Mik, John Harrison and Mick Slattery,
Group X were in action. 

In July 1969 they were signed to Clearwater productions and became Hawkwind Zoo
before changing line-up and name in November 69.  

Hawkwind soon became underground heroes, playing as many benefit gigs as they
could. Their dalliance with drugs was too well publicized and they had many a
brush with the law.  Signed to UA in Nov 69, they cut their first album,
HAWKWIND and their first single - Hurry on Sundown. The line up now comprised
Taylor, Lloyd Langton, Ollis, Turner, Brock, Mik and Harrison. As Nik Turner
said, "it didn't matter how well or how badly we played....we still got a
bloody ovation"

Further line-up changes took place and the band played one of their most
memorable gigs in August 1970, outside the gates at the Isle of Wight. Jimi
Hendrix came to see the band after their set, but was apparently too depressed
to join them for a jam.

By May 71 the band had recorded XIN SEARCH OF SPACE and gained the services of
Stacia from the 71 Glastonbury Fayre. During this period, Dave Brock was going
through a stage where his head was everywhere except on this planet  and the
band actually duffed him up at one point when he intended blowing his car up.

In August 71, Lemmy joined for a six month period (he stayed 45). Dik Mik had
been a fan of Lemmy for months and was keen to get him into the band, but his
reputation as a speed freak went against the Hawkwind philosophy of reliability
and responsibility! On joining the band, Lemmy had no bass guitar and bought
one for 27quid from an auction. As Robert Calvert said, "Lemmy was such an
originator, he played his bass like a rhythm guitar and his charismatic impact
was just immense".

Their most successful period was between 72 and 73 when they recorded the 
double album "Space Ritual" which reached number 9 in the chart. I remember
seeing them during this period, supported by Roxy Music. The band also recorded
the Greasy Truckers Party (equally memorable for the MAN contribution) and the
Glastonbury Fayre triple. It was a cut from this that was re-mixed as a single-
Silver Machine. I have both versions and if you listen to the original mix
you'll soon appreciate the engineers skill.

During early 74, Bob Calvert recorded his first solo album, CAPTAIN LOCKHEED
AND THE STARFIGHTERS. A tour was arranged to promote the album using people
such as Lemmy, Simon King, Twink, Dave Brock etc, but management hassles
caused the tour to be canceled and so dispirited Calvert he disappeared from the
scene. 

November 73 saw Hawkwinds first US tour, and by Sept 74 had recorded their
fifth album - in the Hall of the Mountain Grill. The Mountain grill was in fact
a working mans cafe in the Portobello Road frequented by all the dross and
dregs of humanity and was Dave Brocks favorite eatery. In fact, that's where
he and Calvert met. Another fan of Hawkwind at this time was Michael Moorcock,
who released his own solo band and album - Michael Moorock and the Deep Fix, 
NEW WORLDS FAIR (UA UAG29732). Naturally enough, Deep Fix was Hawkwind.

may 75 saw Lemmy sacked from the band and more importantly to some people,
Stacia left to get married. She was once described as the "ultimate
mast.rbation fantasy for a certain type of wank.r"

August 75 saw Bob Calvert back again and an album, Lucky Leif and the
Longships, produced by Brian Eno. He also rejoined the band for a bill topping
appearance at the Reading festival. The band left UA and joined Charisma. A
book,  "The Time of the hawklords" came out at this point.

January 77 saw a major upheaval with the band. Nik Turner was sacked as "he
would blast away throughout the set, irrespective of whatever else was going
on". Paul Rudolph and Alan Powell were also sacked for trying to bring a
funky-disco edge to the band. Brock describes this as the bands Stalinist
period. 

In April 78, Brock decided that was the end of the band and sold his guitar
after the last date of the US tour. Between April and June, Brock led Sonic
Assains before teaming up again with Calvert and King to form HAWKLORDS. The
Hawkwind name was at that time subject to legal and contractual problems.

And so the tale continues...Hawklords became Hawkwind again and I've run out of
info. My favorite Hawkwind gig was an "Electric Mecca" at the Mecca ballroom
in Bristol - Hawkwind, Roxy Music, Hookfoot (the following week they had
Family, Man, Shakin Stevens and the Sunsets! -yup, THAT Shakin Stevens). 

                                        
    Almost-claim-to-fame Dept. pt I:
    
    Nik Turner formed Inner City Unit after leaving Hawkwind, and the
    band I used to be in ALMOST SUPPORTED ICU... except they cancelled
    the gig...
    
    Ahh those were the days. Playing support to the Magic Mushroom band,
    who set off a smoke bomb - which also set off the smoke detectors
    in the building....
    
    Of course, admitting to knowing about all this hippy stuff is gonna
    play havoc with my street cred   8^)
    
    Nick
    
    ps Ken - nearly at double figures...

>    Aha! A man with the most recent Fairies LP!!
    
>    So, Graham, what's it like? Truth to tell, I've not bought it so
>    as to avoid disappointment..
    
	You won't be disappointed ! with tracks 'White Girls on Amphetamine",
	"Waiting for the Ice Cream to Melt" and "Kill 'em and Eat 'em" (I think
	thats the title of it anyway), you can tell from the track titles that
	they've lost none of their edge.

	Well worth getting.

	Incidentally, a couple  of months back I was talking to MAN after a gig
	at the 'After Dark' in Reading, we were chatting about the old bands who
	are either coming back or never quite went away, and they were chatting
	about some of their early gigs alongside the 'Fairies, Hawkwind etc.

	MAN are also due a new album soon, when they've found a label to put it
	out on.

	On the Hawkwind front again, according to Bob Calvert (RIP) the name
	came from a combination of Nik's huge nose and his Horrendous F*%ts!!
	although this is something which I've never dared ask him as he's a good
	few inches taller than me and usually pissed whenever I get chance to 
	speak to him.



					byeeeeeee,

							hippy.

	GREAT !	Just found this one !

	I thought I was the only Pink Fairies hippy left.

	I went to over 30 Fairies gigs between '73 and '76.
	What can I say, some were brilliant eg. CHRISTMAS
	PARTY '73 @ KENSINGTON TOWN HALL. Others were
	absolute crap '73 @ SUNDOWN MILE END.
	I picked up a strange LP called Previously Unreleased
	anyone care to comment on it?
	I've got NeverNeverLand,Sweeties,KOOblivion & Live@
	the roundhouse. Been trying to get the Snake single
	without success. Managed to get Well,Well,Well and
	Between the Lines singles when they came out.
	Do It '77 was an excellent single - didn't realise
	that the lineup contained so many 'favorites'.
		
	Questions:

	Who were the psycodelic rowdies - were they Sandersons
		own group?
	What is the current lineup ?
	Any gigs planned ?
	Does anybody have any of the Pink Fairies badges/posters
		which they used to chuck out during the gigs?
	I was at a gig @ KENSINGTON TOWN HALL where a guy was
		filming a video of the Kings of Oblivion set.
		Does anyone know about this?

	Oh so many questions...not enough time.

					Paul