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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

188.0. " Hothouse Flowers ??" by ARGUS::CHILTON (Holding back the tears) Thu Sep 01 1988 00:43

    Can you give me your thoughts on Hothouse Flowers?  I'm going to
    see them and don't really know anything about them.
    
    It's called broadening your horizons.  :-)
                                          
    Sue
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188.1KERNEL::COHENKeep Music LiveThu Sep 01 1988 09:4411
    
    They'll probably make it pretty big.  Enjoyed them at Reading, but
    there's the pretentious folky roots still lying about in there,
    which I don't think suites them.  Now Horslips, there's an Irish
    band .... (or was I should say!).
    
    I think they'll last a fair time, although there's still the U2
    comparisons they have to get over ... pretty soon I expect.
    
    David.
    
188.2unfair cohenVANISH::CROOKSTONDon't throw the 'R' away !!!Thu Sep 01 1988 10:2416
    
    I think it's a bit unfair to call the folky bit pretentious. After
    all at least two of the band grew up entering in these song
    competitions and things, the singer was actually the national champion
    at playing 'that drum thingy' that Dave so cleverly knows the name
    of, most of them are fluent speakers of the Irish tongue, and just
    check out their names.....not exactly 'here's a good gimmick let's
    go for it' it all seems very natural to me.
    
    Anyway, I love 'em. As one music paper said, listening to their
    album 'People' you 'hear' all sorts of greats from the past in the
    music.....but it feels natural...not copied.
    
    Must go now, got a meeting (shit)
    
    Tommy.
188.3hothouse peopleCHEFS::WALLSDKiss tomorrow goodbyeThu Sep 01 1988 10:3218
    
    
    a great band, second to U2 in Ireland at the moment, and probably
    will be for some time to come (unless Aslan can do something about
    it!)....the album 'People' is excellent.....the lead singer Liam (I
    think) was the National Boron champion, as was said earlier they're 
    all pretty fluent in the Irish language.......and pretentious? what?
    wise up.....I think they're pretty sound.......and the Horslips!
    what a great band!
    
    Ta se mahogany gaspipe
    
    
    Wallsie
    
    
    
    
188.4EGAV01::DKEATINGYou Ain't Nothing But a Hound DogThu Sep 01 1988 11:007
.2�    at playing 'that drum thingy' that Dave so cleverly knows the name

    Thats a Bodhran (pronounced 'bowrawn') usually made from genuine
    goat skin.                         

    - Dave K. 
    
188.5Hotair FlowersHLDG02::OCONNORWhere's that Jo Buck ???Thu Sep 01 1988 11:2314
I was back in Ireland a few weeks ago and I felt that the tide may be 
going against them. Another case of blinded-by-the-hype ??

Mr O Maolin was seen as being VERY pretentious, mumbling on about his
gypsy-eatin-berries-from-the-tree dreams. The lad likes to think it's
his lifestyle!! I s'pose ye can all blame Dave Fanning for setting them
up!!

As for that NME article...those people will run out of WORDS soon!!


Tim
    
188.6 Hot House Flowers Revisited EGAV01::DKEATINGYou Ain't Nothing But a Hound DogThu Sep 01 1988 12:0835
    Have to agree with .5
    
    When I first heard the band I thought 'not bad', but like
    so many *up and coming* Irish acts have they the stamina
    etc to keep at it?. Then I bought their 'people' album and
    I was very impressed. It's good not great, shall we say solid.
    It indicated they were on the right track and displayed a lot
    of promise.
    
    However then the *HYPE* started to flow. Espiecally from Radio 2
    (national station),they way they went on-and-on about HHF you'd
    suspect they all had shares in the band.They gave the album and
    single 'don't go' rave reviews and *lots* of air play. Then they
    were given the Eurovision stint and lots of TV slots!!! 
    
    The band play a live concert in the RDS Dublin early sept before
    an expected audience of 30,000+. This will be their real test.
    Hopefully they won't fall-flat-on-their-face, but the MEDIA have
    a happy-knack of knack of *slating* groups that they previously
    built-up.
    
    Their is nothing *distinctive* in their sound as of yet. They
    show shades of U2,The Waterboys and Cactus World News. However
    the latter two bands got stuck in neutral also after a very
    promising start. They are shortly to tour the US and if that goes
    well then they have it made...
    
    Hoping all goes well for them and waiting with excitment for album
    no. 2.
                   
    - Dave Keating 
      or
    - D�ith� C�itinn (just to let you know that we all can be pretentious
    		      at times...;-)
    
188.7Better live than recorded...45466::STONEDistant, Alone, Beneath the platinum stars ...Thu Sep 01 1988 13:309
	 I also saw the band for the first time at Reading and thought they
	were great - much better than on CD.

	 However if they're going to make it big they'll have to tell Liz
	Kershaw to shut up, her idea that 20,000+ people had spent 3 days
	at a festival just to see the HHF was unbelievable!

							Graham
188.8KERNEL::COHENKeep Music LiveThu Sep 01 1988 14:4021
	
�   However if they're going to make it big they'll have to tell Liz
�   Kershaw to shut up, her idea that 20,000+ people had spent 3 days at a
�   festival just to see the HHF was unbelievable! 
 
    Couldn't agree more - it was laughable the way she was telling us
    this was the ultimate liove experience of 1988.
    
    RE: previous replies .... I'm not doubting their history etc. or
    their roots, it's just that the part of the set I was describing
    didn't seem to add anything at all to the set .... a bit token.
    
    This is actually a pretty decent topic - the rest of this conference
    seems to be turning into either 1 liners or who/what do you hate the
    most a la *some* topics in DREGS::MUSIC.
    
    Back to the Hotties - their second album will be telling point.
    
    David.
    
    
188.9Hype, what hype? I only heard the songsWELMTS::GREENBL=R,R=XWed Sep 14 1988 11:5812
    As with everything else, after the hype has died down, the pretentions
    or otherwise are forgotten, etc., the music will stand or fall on
    its own, and I think the 'Hotties' (nice one) will survive.(with
    this in mind you can see why Sick Sick Sputnik are long forgotten!)
    Theres nothing wrong with displaying your roots/influences , in
    my opinion - heck, I like Van Morrison too!                        
    Anyway, good luck to them - they seem to be one band who play
    *together* and get off on it, rather than yet another bunch of
     "how can we con vast sums of money out of the kids and retire in 6
      months" merchants
    
    Bob
188.10Hothouse Flowers tickets availableARGUS::CHILTONAll for freedom & for pleasureMon Sep 26 1988 16:2710
    
    Unfortunately, we will be unable to attend the show this Friday,
    9/30.  If any of you Boston area readers want to relieve me of
    these two tickets, you can have 'em for what I paid.
    
    As the gig is sold out...hopefully someone will find them useful.
    
    I can be mailed on either ARGUS:: or SENIOR::  and the dtn is 262-8511.
    
    Sue :-)
188.11Forgot to add to previous :-)ARGUS::CHILTONAll for freedom & for pleasureMon Sep 26 1988 16:295
    
    The previous will be entered in the MUSIC notesfile as soon as I
    can get the network partner to come back :-)
    
    And mods please delete if inappropriate.
188.12JUMBLY::OCONNORMore honest than FrankMon Jan 08 1990 15:3811
    Does anybody know when the second album is out ?

    Dave K (who's met 6' 2" Liam O'Maonlai!) told me at Xmas that it's
    completed and that the bunch of gypsy-rakes tried out the songs in The
    Gaeltacht (of all places!)

    The question on _everybody's_ lips is:

    Was S�an B�n Breathnach there to cover it ??

    - Tim
188.13Who's Sian Ban Breathnach?HYEND::SCHILTONWhen they said sit down,I stood upMon Jan 08 1990 18:086
    
    I think the last issue of Pulse said February.  When we saw 'em
    last spring they said September, what could possibly delay it
    this long?
    
    The question on _my_ lips, Tim my darlin', is: