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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

134.0. "Talk Talk" by KERNEL::JWILLIAMS () Thu Jun 30 1988 14:19

    Righto chums, can anyone answer this one for me.
    
    Whatever happened to the excellent Talk Talk?  They produced 3
    brilliant albums, last single being out about 2 years ago and then
    disappeared.
    
    I'd love an update on their whereabouts or if they are planning
    any tours.  Any ideas anyone?
    
    I wonder if their melancholic style says something about my
    personality?   (Don't answer that Harve!)
    
    Julia
    
    
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134.1KERNEL::COHENKeep Music LiveThu Jun 30 1988 17:388
    
    Julia,
    
    I think I read something in N.M.E. (the gospel according to!!!)
    that they were preparing a new platter for release soon.  Could
    be wrong though, but I think they are still going.
    
    David.
134.2AhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhMALLET::JEFFERYAnd the wind cried MaryFri Jul 01 1988 09:5711
    
    I've only recently got into Talk Talk. Bought "The Colour of Spring"
    a few months ago, and very recenlt bought "It's my life" which I
    was a little disappointed with.
    
    Good thing about them is that they are the only 80's band I know
    to use the Mellotron!!
    
    What is the other album like ?
    
    Mark_in_the_court_of_the_crimson_king.
134.3All yoy wanna do is 'Talk Talk'AYOV10::CAIRNSI left my baby and it feels so badFri Jul 01 1988 13:065
    
    Mark I think there first LP was called funally enough 'Talk Talk'
    
    Walker "Angry Young Man of Pop" who also likes Colour of Spring
    
134.4CHEFS::HASTONMKickin' back the Landslide Fri Jul 01 1988 15:009
    Yep, the 1st LP was called "Talk Talk" which, apart from their first
    single `Talk Talk' also had their second `Today'.
    
    I've got this on tape and, comparing it with their later releases,
    seems the best of the lot; certainly more varied musically.
    
    They use a mellotron eh? Now that *is* lo-tech!
    
    M
134.5KERNEL::COHENKeep Music LiveFri Jul 01 1988 15:139
    RE: < Note 134.4 by CHEFS::HASTONM "Kickin' back the Landslide " >
    
    >> They use a mellotron eh? Now that *is* lo-tech!
    
    Well, it sure saves karting an orchestra around with them!!!
    
    David.
    

134.6HAZEL::STARRYou ain&#039;t nothin&#039; but fine, fine, fine!Fri Jul 01 1988 16:167
    I can hear the DJ now...
    
    "That was "Talk Talk" from 'Talk Talk' by Talk Talk" !
    
    8^)
    
    Alan S.
134.7Eh?KERNEL::JWILLIAMSFri Jul 01 1988 18:344
    Good lorrrdddddd!  And I never knew how technical their music was.
     One question, what on earth is a mellotron??
    
    Julia
134.8RDGENG::KEDMUNDS$ no !fm2r, no commentFri Jul 01 1988 18:526
    It was a keyboard instrument used in the late 60s / early 70s which
    consisted of lots of tapes. If you selected, say, violin, and played
    E, the violin E tape was played - mellotrons had a few instruments
    and LOTS of tape!
    
    K.
134.9MELL-OH-TRON!!MALLET::JEFFERYAnd the wind cried MaryFri Jul 01 1988 18:5517
    
    The Colour of Spring really is a superb album. I just wish my car
    stereo could take it. Must remember not to play it when there are
    passengers in the car!
    
    The mellotron was one of the first synthesisers to arrive. They
    were most popularly used by late 60's, early 70's pop groups like
    King Crimson and Genesis. I think they consisted of tape sounds
    playing through some sort of rotating speaker or something like
    that. They make a nice mellow sort of long sustained sort of sound.
    I'll try to find out which track it is on.
    
    Any opinions on the other (or any) album.
    
    Cheers.
    
    Mark.
134.10ErratumCHEFS::HASTONMKickin&#039; back the Landslide Mon Jul 04 1988 14:0711
    Have just played the 1st. Album Tape only to discover that it's
    called "The Party's Over".
    
    Hope this saves the embarassment of asking for non-existent albums.
    
>>  The mellotron was one of the first synthesisers to arrive.
    
    As it uses `natural' taped sound, it can't be a synth.
    
    M
     
134.11Natural vs SyntheticMALLET::JEFFERYYou and I are listening to KAOSTue Jul 05 1988 12:4315
    
    RE .-1
    
    >As it uses `natural' taped sound, it can't be a synth.
    
    Well, there has been a whole family of synthesisers that emulate
    natural sounds by digitally sampling them. Surely the taped sounds
    are just the same sort of thing? Whether or not it uses "natural"
    sounds, it does not produce the sounds in a "natural" (I would
    substitute the word acoustic) way.
    
    Does anyone have any opinions on the third album, compared to "The
    Colour of Spring" ?
    
    Mark.
134.12Well, you did ask,,,KERNEL::JWILLIAMSTue Jul 05 1988 14:4838
    Hang on, I thought the third album was the 'The Colour of
    Spring'?..Time for a complete discography me thinks.
    
    Right, "The Party's Over" came out in 1982, followed by "It's my
    life" in 84 and finally, "The Colour of Spring" in 86.
    
    Their first album I thought was more tuned to the singles charts
    as they were the group's 'poppiest' records (Talk Talk, Today etc)
    but did include 'Candy' which was great.
    
    "It's my Life" showed Talk Talk producing weightier records (could
    this be an appearance by the infamous mellotron?).  "It's my Life"
    , the single taken from the record was absolutely brilliant, the
    full effect being achieved by playing the stereo really loud.  "Renee"
    is also absolutely gorgeous, along with "Such a shame".
    
    The "Colour of Spring" is their best I agree.  Looking at the credits,
    it seems the mellotron creeps into "I don't believe in you", and
    "Give it up" (not that I would have noticed!).  The best singles
    being "Happiness is easy", "Life is what you make it" and the brilliant
    "Living in another world".  At a couple of songs, it got too heavy
    for me, namely "April 5th" and " Chameleon Days" but perhaps I'm
    just not cultured enough?
    
    Generally, I wish Mark Hollis would sing a bit clearer.  Without
    the words, I'd be stuck for what he was singing about - or is that
    meant to be added mystery?  Added to that, when you do know the
    words, they don't really mean anything, just jumbled phrases.  Or
    am I being thick, not to realise the potential profoundness of it
    all.
    
    I would say, they are due for another release soon as two years
    has gone by and then seem to do things in two year spans.  Me money's
    ready........
    
    Julia (who is still thinking of a good personal name)
    
    Julia
134.13CHEFS::HASTONMKickin&#039; back the Landslide Tue Jul 05 1988 14:5812
    RE: -1
    
    My understanding of Synthesized sound is thus:
    
    A violin produces a note by vibrating a string
    A Synth produces a note by the manipulation of oscillators etc.
    Therefore the violin is `natural'

    Samplers must fall somewhere in between.
    
    M
        
134.14New notes file!MALLET::JEFFERYYou and I are listening to KAOSTue Jul 05 1988 19:5621
    At the risk of straying from the point:
    
    >A violin produces a note by vibrating a string
    >A Synth produces a note by the manipulation of oscillators etc.
    >Therefore the violin is `natural'
    
    Yes, I completely agree. Taping a sound and manipulating it is no
    different than sampling the sound digitally in that both sounds
    are "messed about" with electronically. Therefore they are both
    synthesised. Pardon me being pedantic.
    
    For those of you interested in Mellotrons, there is a notes file
    devoted to them!!! Press KP7 or SELECT to add them to your list.
    
    Now back to Talk Talk.
    
    I shall have to buy the Party's over, if only for the cover!
    
    Mark
    
134.15Spirit of EdenSTP::ANDERSONRemember Roy OrbisonSun Jan 08 1989 22:1210
    Even after reading two newspaper reviews describing songs on the new
    Talk Talk album as "dirges", "funeral marches", and "art rock at its
    worst", I was still looking forward to it.
    
    I was not disappointed!  Their trend of a pared-down sound continues. 
    This album may take a bit of getting used to but it is worth it!
    
    What do other folks think of the new Talk Talk?
    
    Paul
134.16talk againHSKSA1::TAMMISALOdown to the funky beatTue Jan 24 1989 09:109
    hello !
    
    I say "Colour of spring" is marvellous. Fantastic music.
    But the fourth album, "Eden" or something like that,
    is awful. Of course, there is some magnificient parts,
    but in general, I was very disappointed. I expected
    much better.
    tt
     
134.17ODIHAM::NORTON_AAndrew Norton, South UK Region ACWed Jan 25 1989 14:415
    After a long wait, I bought the Eden Cd. I thought it was crap -
    not a patch on the other three, I took it back and changed it for
    something else after a week. I would recomend any Talk Talk fan
    to give it a miss.