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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

43.0. "Influences in music" by HEART::WARD () Wed Apr 20 1988 13:45

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    Question :- if the Sex Pistols were the major influence in the mid-70's
    and Joy Division were the major influence in the early 80's who
    is/was the major influence in the mid-80's .. ?
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43.1OFFCLU::DKEATINGNot all that shivers is coldWed Apr 20 1988 14:195
.0�    Question :- if the Sex Pistols were the major influence in the mid-70's
.0�    and Joy Division were the major influence in the early 80's who
.0�    is/was the major influence in the mid-80's .. ?

    This is a very 'iffy' question.....
43.2I must compose carefullyREPAIR::EDWARDSIn Moshing We TrustWed Apr 20 1988 14:3114
    Let's be analytical-
    
    	The majority of pop music(*under16's*)is electronic, so I guess
    that you could say it's a natural progression from the new romantic
    era(early eighties), I don't know, just a thought.
    	Dance music has nothing to do with soul anymore.
    	Indie/gothic draws a lot from the old hippie numbers along with
    more modern influences like *punk* and I think the Cure are the
    best in this area.
    	Rock is the business.  Always going forward to new ground, doesn't
    let the media/fashion rule it.  Biggest heroes METALLICA.
    
    Slap my wrist if I'm wrong,
    				Eddy.
43.3RDGENG::KEDMUNDSbut I haven&#039;t got an fm2r...Thu Apr 21 1988 08:254
    	Judging by the way pop music is going these days, it seems that
    the Bee Gees were the major influence in the 70s.
    
    	Keith
43.4The ProducersSUBURB::SUMMERFIELDCLiving on a knife edgeThu Apr 21 1988 19:0013
    	Listening ( only when I cant avoid it :-) ) to the chart sounds
    from the 80's, my vote for biggest influence is The Producers.Not
    some noxious pop group, but instead an even worse bunch of s**theads
    including SAW and Trevor Horn. 
    
    	I suspect that, with hindsight, the 80's will be remembered
    as the decade when to be a commercial success a band had to look
    good, be willing to be molded as the record companies saw fit, and
    play what they were told to, how and when they were told to.
    
    	The 80's wont ( I hope :-) ) be remembered as a great decade.
    
    Balders
43.5Producers and DancersHEART::WARDThu Apr 21 1988 20:499
    RE:4 - you've stolen my thunder cos that's what I was just about
    to suggest .. !   Don't forget Jam and Lewis too who really
    stimulated soul/dance/hip-hop/house (I think).
     
    A major artist having influence must have been Madonna (sorry
    folks).   After all - how many well-known female singers
    were around before 1985 ?   Nowadays the charts (and Indies
    as well) are populated with nothing but female singers (either
    solo or in groups).
43.6Lime PickleWARSAW::ENGINEERSMon Apr 25 1988 19:317
    Re .5 : "How many well known female singers........"
    
    Where have you been ? On the moon ? How about
    		
    		LULU
    		Nana Moskouri
    		Vera Lynn - The one with the white cliffs !
43.7Stone The CrowsIPG::MORGANThis Is Car 55, We&#039;re In A TruckMon Apr 25 1988 22:421
    Re .5 What about Maggie Bell ?
43.8Kate Bush, Susi Quatro et alGYPSC::CHISHOLMDem Tambourines!Tue Apr 26 1988 10:034
    
    	'an don't you dare forget Kiki Dee
    
    	Doug.
43.9Sandy Denny - my vote !CHEFS::LAWSONMJesus is the RISEN SON of GODFri Apr 29 1988 14:511
    
43.10AYOV11::RENNISONGimme a cybo-razor-cut.Thu Oct 29 1992 09:066
In retrospect, I think that the main musical influence of the mid/late eighties
had to be the Smiths. SAW can't have been major influences on music because
what they do is not music.


Mark
43.11SUBURB::TUDORKThu Oct 29 1992 14:364
    The Smiths!  Beg to differ...
    
    They're a novelty act aren't they?
    
43.12AYOV11::RENNISONGimme a cybo-razor-cut.Thu Oct 29 1992 14:5114
Smiths square crisps and Salt'n'Shake are novelty. I don't think that the band
were though.

I have never liked them, in fact I find Morrisey a complete tube. However, all
you need to do is look at how many bands now think it is cool to be totally
miserable. Also how many vegetarians are there as a result of the Meat is Murder
crusade ?  Quite a few to my knowledge. OK so it's silly to stop eating meat 
just because some geezer with a buch of daffodils stuck up his jacksy says it's
bad, but it has happened.

I stand by my earlier observation.


Mark
43.13ARRODS::OHAGANBLights Out in LondonThu Oct 29 1992 15:2918
    I'd say the Smith's influence only went as far as the jangley, indie
    music culture reflected by the NME. You could also say The JAMC had an
    effect equal to the Smiths but again it was restricted too. The only 
    area which I think can claim to have had an effect across a wide
    variety of styles and a far greater audience was the Chicago House 
    scene or whatever they called it. And we all know what came out of
    that don't we? Aceeed!
    
    barry. 
    
    p.s. Not forgetting the immeasurable influence of his royal purpleness
         of course.   
    
    
    
    
     
    
43.14CHEFS::FIDDLERMLe singe est dans L&#039;arbreThu Oct 29 1992 17:4411
    The Smiths and New Order were obviously the most influential bands of
    the 80s for UK music.  The JAMC were great, but a touch too derivative
    of VU.  The great Joy Division cast a shadow over everything in the
    early eighties, and in may ways still do I guess. 
    Like him or hate him, Mozz produced some of the funniest best thought
    out lyrics for many years.  Its a shame he has gone down the tube with
    his solo stuff.
    
    Miserable?  Listen again.
    
    Mikef                    
43.15hmm? hmm?RDGENG::WHITEVEvil TemptressMon Nov 02 1992 10:315
    what about The Cure?
    Siouxsie and the Banshees?
    Jesus and Mary Chain?
    The Pixies?