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Conference marvin::uk_music

Title:The UK Music Conference
Notice:Welcome (back) to UK_MUSIC on node MARVIN.
Moderator:RDGENG::CROOK
Created:Mon Mar 28 1988
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1381
Total number of notes:39269

41.0. "Music Videos past and present" by SUBURB::DALLISON (But would *you* buy one?) Tue Apr 19 1988 13:45

    
    Any favourite music videos?  (live or promotional).
                                 
    Any disaponintments?
    
    Any recomendations?
    
    Any Reviews?
                  
    Any thoughts? 
                  
    
                  
    Kind Regards  
    -Tony Dallison
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41.1The good, bad, and awfulREPAIR::EDWARDSIn Moshing We TrustTue Apr 19 1988 13:5414
    Good Vidoes-
    		Iron Maiden;Live after Death
    		Iron Maiden;12 Wasted Years
    		Billy Idol;More Vital Idol
    		Anthrax/Agent Steel;Metal Hammer Roadshow
    
    Reasonable-
    		UB40;The Best Of...
    
    Disappionting-
    		Dio;Live
    
    K.T.F.,
    		Eddy
41.2here's some...CHEFS::WALLSDLester Piggott's accountantTue Apr 19 1988 13:5520
    
    Favourite 'live' concert videos that I've seen :
    
    The Police  "Synchronicity Concert"
    RUSH        "Grace Under Pressure Tour"
    U2          "Under a blood red sky"
    The Band    "The Last Waltz"
    
    I would definitely recommend any of the above, esp. The Police because
    of the quality and originality of Godley & Creme who produced it...the
    RUSH video is pretty hard to get but well worth it!!
    
    Disappointments :
    
    RUSH        "Exit Stage Left"
    
    
    
    Declan
    
41.3video viewSUBURB::DALLISONBut would *you* buy one?Tue Apr 19 1988 14:2720
    re.1
        
    I agree with the Dio disapontment, but which one????
                                       
    I was quite surprised, having seen Dio twice I thought they
    were brill, but the videos aren't anything special.  Dio, 
    (as far as I remember) have released two videos (Sectrum
    Special and the Sacred Heart tour).  I've got 'em both, but
    unless you are a real Ronnie fan, don't bother.
                                                   
    I've has just ordered "Whitesnake - Trioligy" and "Live...Whitesnake".
    When I get 'em, (and stop my girlfriend drooling over Rudy Sarzo)
    I'll let you know what I think (Completely unbiased opinion of course
    ;^)   
                                              
        
    Are there any Eric Clapton video's about? Any recomendations?
        
    KR
    -T
41.4Talking Heads (No, not `Stop making sense')OTTO::COTTONTue Apr 19 1988 14:5910
    
    Has anybody out there seen the new Talking Heads Video compilation
    `Storytelling Giant'.  It's about 10 of their videos plus extra
    bits?  I've only seen the videos for `Road to nowhere' (who hasn't?)
    ,`Burning down the house' and `The lady dont mind' and these were
    are real good.  However please note that I haven't got this and
    it isn't a review, I just wanted to know if anyone else has.
    
    	Lee.
    
41.5Must See's for Zappa follower's...SONATA::LANGEPat Robertson? Armageddon Outta HereTue Apr 19 1988 18:269
    Does Humor Belong in Music  -  Frank Zappa
    
    Baby Snakes			-  FZ
    
    Video from Hell		-  FZ
    
    Dub Room Special		-  FZ
    
    				Jeff Lange [USA]
41.6this'll go down like a lead balloon.SUBURB::CLARKEJBegin the day with a friendly voice....Tue Apr 19 1988 19:0812
    If you have an hour or so spare then give
    'The Song Remains The Same' from Zep a viewing.
    It's available at most vid-hire shops around
    these parts and there's some classic scenes from
    the days when they could still fit Mr.Plants' head
    on stage.                 
    
    Jez
    
    P.S. Compared with the quality of the record I thought
    the vid to 'Exit Stage Left' was pritty good.
    
41.7There's a lady that's sure....SUBURB::MCSHANEGAlas poor Yorik!!....I knew him wellWed Apr 20 1988 09:307
    RE last.
    
    I now have to rent the said video as I've worn my own copy out!!!
    
    Brill film.
    
    Gary
41.8wish I could remember things !CHEFS::LAWSONMJesus is the RISEN SON of GODWed Apr 20 1988 17:5518
    re a few back on E.C.
    
    Yes there is one I know about [ cos I've got it ] 
    
    Birmingham 86 ( I think or may be 85 )  
    
    It is  OK lots of good songs and great drumming from Phil ( collins)
    and his two amazing Coloured Guys one on bass and the other on
    Keyboards
    
    the copy I've got is good picture and good sound. For me well worth
    the 9.99 it cost me.
    
    If you want I can list out the tracks covered ?
    
    bye for now 
    
    Mark
41.9why Trioloigy - there's five tracks?????SUBURB::DALLISONBut would *you* buy one?Thu Apr 21 1988 11:4465
                                               
                                               
    Title: Whitesnake...Trioligy 
    Cost: �6.99                                               
    Running time: 30 mins approx                      
    Tracks: 6 (one is repeated though, so 5 different) 
                                                             
    1>                                                           
    Well, first off they showed clips of them filming videos with "Give
    me all your Love tonight" playing in the background.  Things like
    DC and HTK kernoodling again, flowing long blonde hair, posing and
    lots of directors running around, trying to look funny.                  
        
    2>               
    Second, (And in my opinion one of the best tracks to come out of
    1987 (the year, not the album) "Still of the night".  
                                                    
    This had an abundance of pelvic thrusts on the part of Sarzo, and
    Vandenberg does his Jimmy Page bit with a Violin bow.  Poor old
    Vivian Campbell is bobbing up and down like a yoyo, trying hard
    to look like a poser, but failing miserably - however, as he is
    the better guitarist of the two and does just about all the solo's
    on the video, he is excused.  D.C's mean/moody look is in fine form.
      
    3>                                                                  
    Next on the bill is "Here I go again".  This is an absouloutly terrible
    version!!!!!!! bring back the HIGA of "Saints an' Sinners".  Again,
    lots of DC/HTK, and its at this point that there kernoodling becomes
    nausiating. Boring really!                 
      
    4>                                         
    Then there is "Is this Love".  More kernoodling - Arrrghhhhhh!!!!!
    Lots more posing and Sarzo's dyed his hair.  Me and my girlfriend
    are now convinced that Vandenberg was a donkey in a previous life.
      
    5>
    Then they did "Gimmie all your love tonight...Live"  this was the
    _only_ video without HTK, and to be honest, although I didn't like
    the track that much, this video was the best of the lot.  I _think_
    it was filmed at Wembly Arena at one of the December dates (If you
    look hard enough you'll see me :-).  Again lots of pelvic thrust
    fro all except poor old VC, who is slogging his guts out playing
    the solo's, and Tommy Aldridge the drummer, who has very little
    coverage anyway so even if he was posing, you wouldn't have seen him!!    
    I must say though that Vandengerg's thrusts had slowed down now
    and then, when he had to be the occasional note/chord.  One
    particularly revolting bit involves old Sarzo licking his guitar.
    Hmmmm. , maybe its coz HTK 'ain't around to do it for hime.
                                                               
    6>                                                         
    They then showed more live footage and the credits with the best 
    track of the video "Love ain't no Stranger".               
                                                               
                                                               
    Marx out of ten?????????                                   
                                                               
    MUSIC:                                                    
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    5                                                          
                                                               
    Kind Regards,
    Tony Dallison                                              
                 
41.10I made some typing mistooks in .9 - sorry :-)SUBURB::DALLISONBut would *you* buy one?Thu Apr 21 1988 11:461
   
41.11TKOV04::NAKAGAWAFri Apr 22 1988 03:0012
    
    Favo : "Great Pritender " ( Making ) by F. Mercury
    		It's really funny for Fred fan :-)
    		
    BTW, Why it's so cheap to buy music videos in UK ?
    I was really surprised at the price.
    I bought a "We will rock you" (Live; 60 - 90 minues), but it only
    cost 9.99 pounds.!
    If you buy it in Japan, you have to pay about 52 pounds for it.
    
    Regards, Etsuko                                            
    
41.12Talking Heads, "Storytelling Giant"XCUSME::MAKARAWICZCrosseyed and PainlessFri Apr 22 1988 03:5442
    Re. .4
           
    
    	I purchased "Storytelling Giant" about a week ago for $19.95,
    and I must say that I got my money's worth.  This video is a must
    for any Talking Heads fan.  It contains ten of their videos:
    
    		o  Once In A Lifetime
    		o  This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)
    		o  Burning Down The House
    		o  Crosseyed and Painless
    		o  Stay Up Late
     		o  The Lady Don't Mind
    		o  Road To Nowhere
    		o  Wild Wild Life
    		o  Love for Sale
     		o  And She Was
    
    
    	In-between the videos are bits and pieces of actual people (not
    actors) telling stories about things that have happened in their
    lives.  It's strange, but these random pieces of conversation some-
    how make a strong connection with the videos.
    
    	Each video is as innovative as the Head's music, with the exception
    of "Crosseyed and Painless," which consists of breakdancers dancing
    to the music; it's the only video of the ten that is not worth a second
    look.  The best videos include "Love for Sale," an interesting look
    at how commercials can sell "love", "And She Was," an animated gem,
    similar to Paul Simon's "Boy In The Bubble Video" (It was animated
    and directed by the same person), "Road to Nowhere" and "Wild Wild
    Life", which was from David Byrne's movie, True Stories.
    
    
    	"Storytelling Giant" would be a fine video if it had just included
    the ten videos.  However, the addition of the stories in-between
    give each video (and song) much more meaning.
    
                              * * * *
    
    ---Ron.
    
41.13WhitesnakESUBURB::DALLISONRocksFri Apr 22 1988 16:4830
      
    Title: Whitesnake - Donington Park
    Cost:  �9.99 
    Running time: 55 mins
      
    This was recorded live at Castle Donington on 20 August 1983 and
    is a complete opposite of the last one I reviewed - f****** 
    brilliant!!!!
      
    None of this pelvic thrust lark.  David Coverdale, Micky Moody,
    Cozy Powell, John Lord, Collin "Bomber" Hodgkinson and the other
    (nameforgoten) guitarist explode through the real classic stuff
    that gave Whitesnake the reputation it used to have. 
      
    Playlist (I think I've missed one out though):
    1) Walking in the shadow of the blues                  
    2) Rough and Ready                                     
    3) Ready and Willin'                                   
    4) Lovehunter                                          
    5) Mistreated                                          
    6) Soider of fortune                                   
    7) Ain't no Love (in the heart of the city)            
    8) Fool for your lovin'                                
    9) We wish you well 
                        
    Lovehunter features an exellent blues solo with his slide guitar,
    but David Coverdales voice is a bit off now and then, but this has
    gotta be real value fo money, and a must for any 'snake fan.
             
    -T       
41.14mel galley was his nameHAMPS::SMITH_SBack in the saddle again !!Fri Apr 22 1988 16:5610
    
    re.13
    
    the forgotten one was Mel Galley ( I think)
    Glad the video is good.I attended this concert and thought they
    good then,but I was about 100 yards from the stage,and had to rely
    on the screens at the side to see the action.All the same it was
    a good day.Shame they did'nt film ZZ top that day.
    
    steve.
41.15re.14SUBURB::DALLISONRocksFri Apr 22 1988 17:055
    
    Ah!  Mel Galley - thats the one -thanx  :-) 
                                           
    Cheers
    -Tony-
41.163 of the best ...KERNEL::COHENKeep Music LiveFri Apr 22 1988 18:1910
    
    o  Kate Bush - 'The Whole Story' - Experiment 4 (with Dawn French
       is brilliant).
    
    o  Doors - 'Dance On Fire' - Brilliant colour shots.
    
    o  Talking Heads - 'Stop Making Sense' - that b-i-g suit!!
    
    David.
    
41.17ISTG::ADEYI am the concierge, chez moi honeyFri Apr 22 1988 19:436
    re: -1
    
    	Who's Dawn French?
    
    Ken....
    
41.18Dawn FrenchKERNEL::COHENKeep Music LiveMon Apr 25 1988 15:3312
    
    RE: .17
    
    Dawn French is an English actress who as, in recent years, appeared
    in many of the Channel 4 "Comic Strip" films.  She has also appeared
    on other UK TV programmes, and is married to the commedian Lenny
    Henry.  I guess that she may not be so well known outside the UK!
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    David.
    
41.19A good video is . . .YIPPEE::BUXTONSteve Buxton - EAITG ValbonneFri Apr 29 1988 10:5416
    
    I think a good "acid test" of a video is if you don't particularly
    like a song BEFORE seeing the video, and love it AFTER. Some videos
    certainly have that effect - every time you hear the record you
    remember the video and enjoy it. Certainly Michael Jackson's "BAD"
    did that for me - the long version (about 9 minutes I think) was
    a whole cameo movie with the song at the end. This is also true
    of just about every ZZ top video, surely a classic series.
    
    My other faves include Meatloaf (Bat out of hell and Dead ringer),
    Blondie's first couple of singles (how does she manage to turn me
    into a heap of jelly just by moving an eyebrow ?), and how about
    Soul Man too ?
    
    - Steve B.
    
41.20She certainly can raise an eyebrow or twoOFFCLU::DKEATINGNot all that shivers is coldFri Apr 29 1988 12:0310
.19�                                      (how does she manage to turn me
.19�    into a heap of jelly just by moving an eyebrow ?),
    
    It depends on what part of her anatomy she used to move your eyebrow
    with !!! ;-)
    
    Agree with what you say on what makes a good video though.
    
    -Dave K.

41.21MPGS::TURNERYo! Bum Rush the ShowMon Jul 25 1988 16:0423
    My faves, individual and compilation...
    
    Yes, "Owner of a Lonely Heart" (long version)  MTV chopped this sucker
    up in the USA.  Too bad, the 7 minute version is beautifully filmed and
    fits entirely too well with the music.
    
    Kate Bush, "The Single File".  I plead guilty to all charges of bias,
    being a total KT devotee.  Admittedly, some of the early vids ("Wow",
    "Wuthering Heights", etc) are kinda dated and cheesy, but that's half
    th' FUN, see?  Anyway, it IS worth it for the vids they didn't include
    on "The Whole Story", such as "Suspended in Gaffa" and "Them Heavy
    People"... and can we not forget that oh-so-yummy chain mail bikini in
    "Babooshka"?   But of course you UK folks have probably had a little
    too much of Kate and this is being redundant...
    
    XTC - don't know the title.  I saw this video compilation in a video
    store in Amherst, Massachusetts and rented it (it was on sale for
    $120!!)  It has most of everything off of "Waxworks" plus some others.
    Really great stuff!  Apparently it's a Japanese import, since the case
    was covered with kanji...
    
    /joe
    
41.22LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE (Europe)Tue Sep 20 1988 20:412
    A vote foe the Eurythmics "Savage" album on Hi-Fi Video, excellent,
    especially "Savage", "I need you" and "Shame".
41.23Eurythmics video tape or just videos of songs?VIA::KARDONGo bang!Tue Sep 20 1988 21:139
    Andy,
    
    Tell me more about this Eurythmics video.  I have only seen 
    _Eurythmics Live_ and their _Sweet_Dreams_ video.
    
    Is there a video for the whole _Savage_ album, or have you just
    seen videos of songs from that album.
    
    -Scott
41.24LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE (Europe)Tue Sep 20 1988 22:371
    It's the whole "Savage" album. Really trific.
41.25Andy, tell me more (please)VIA::KARDONGo bang!Wed Sep 21 1988 21:178
    RE .24
    
    I want that video.  Do you know if it's available in the states?
    Do you have any sort of ordering info on it?
    
    Sorry to break up the flow...
    
    -Scott
41.26LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� Leslie, CSSE (Europe)Thu Sep 22 1988 09:389
    
    I don't know if it's available in the US - obviously the version
    available here is PAL VHS Hi-Fi - totally incompatible with NTSC VHS
    Hi-Fi - I suggest you contact WEA or whoever is the Eurythmics US
    label.
    
    Andy
    
    PS of course you can always get a multi-standard vcr and TV...
41.27Todd Rundgren videoKURMA::DMILLERDEREKSun Feb 24 1991 14:167
    
    I'm looking for a video called "Todd Rundgren-Live in Tokyo" which is
    available in America but is not compatible with British systems.Does
    anyone know of a stockist over here who would be likely to have it.
    
     
    
41.28Now that's what I call videoJURA::PELAZ::MACFADYENGetting and spendingThu Oct 29 1992 11:2230
I've seen some good videos recently, which hasn't been the case for a
while. There are so many cliches in videos now, you get a  bit sick of
them. There's the big empty room, could be a school gymn, with the band
inexplicably set up in the middle of the floor. There might be a model
girl drifting around this one. For bigger bands, there's the arrival,
set-up and performance at a stadium. There might be a few model girls
drifting around this one. There's plenty of other cliches too, but they're
too forgettable for me to remember right now.

The vid that first caught my attention was the new U2 one, 'Even better
than the real thing', it might be. Great camera work, with the camera
swooping right round underneath Bono in his full rock god black outfit. The
second vid was the current REM single, whatever it's called, with the 'Hey
Kids, rock'n'roll' line in it, featuring Michael Stipe is a stage-diver who
everyone is so eager to support that he drifts across the top of the crowd
endlessly. The frantic film is a strange contrast to the melancholy song.
It's a bit creepy too, reminds me of the tv coverage of the Ayatollah
Khomeini's funeral where his body fell out of the coffin and was tossed
about on the crowd. I don't even know who the third video is by but the
song could be called 'How the West was won'. It uses video trickery to mix
old cowboy film footage into the band's performance - great to watch.

A few years ago videos used to be exciting, like the Madness videos, and
maybe a few video makers are making an effort again.

Oh yes, one more: the quite violent video for the new Peter Gabriel
single.


Rod
41.29The Ridley Scott AcademyARRODS::OHAGANBLights Out in LondonThu Oct 29 1992 11:356
    One of the cliches you forgot Rod was the "let's film it in black
    and white in a disused factory for that industrial feel." Lots of
    dangling chains, smoke billowing from pipes, puddles on the floor
    etc.  
    
    barry. 
41.30RUTILE::LETCHERRunaway Argument in HotspotThu Oct 29 1992 12:285
    And rain-soaked streets at night, and horrible horrible heavy metal
    vocalists leering too close to wide angle lenses, and black cats, and
    and and
    
    Piers