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Title:Internet Tools
Notice:Report ALL NETSCAPE Problems directly to [email protected].rnet? Read note 448.L for beginner information.
Moderator:teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer
Created:Fri Jun 25 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4714
Total number of notes:40609

4683.0. "Microsoft Explorer performance" by PRIME8::VAUGHN (Mike Vaughn DTN 339-5325) Wed May 21 1997 17:30

Hello -

	I just recently started having problems with MSIE, and I was wondering
if anyone else is experiencing similar symptons.  This started with Internet
Explorer V3.01 (both Intel & Alpha) and continues with 3.02 (again, Intel
& Alpha).  The problem shows itself when attempting to access certain Intranet
sites.

	For instance, to access the sales tool called WEB IR 
(http:webir.das.dec.com) it's suddenly (as of 2 weeks ago) started taking almost 
2 minutes to start the screen paint and over 3 minutes to finish.  With Netscape 
using the same proxy settings this takes about 2-3 seconds (which is the speed 
I've been seeing over the last 6 months or so since I started using this MSIE).  
Another example is the IBG Engineering Software Distribution site 
(http://ibgzko.zkol.dec.com/sdk/).

All of the systems on my floor in this building exhibit the same behavior.  We don't
all use the same proxy servers (and this happens whether a proxy server is enabled
or not for intranet addresses).

Anybody else have similar problems?  Does this happen from your site?  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

mike
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4683.1PYRO::RONRon S. van ZuylenWed May 21 1997 22:2139
    I don't have those problems.  It's blazing fast here (WRO) from IE 3.02.
    Are you sure you aren't using the proxy server?  All *.dec.com (IE) or
    .dec.com (Navigator) should be excluded, so all internal access is
    directly from your PC to the site.  IE's silly "Do not use proxy server
    for local (intranet) addresses" check box should be ignored; it isn't
    enough.
    
    --Ron
    
    
Stolen from Note 4644.2: (Recorded Previously)
    
    As the previous note mentioned, the no proxy settings should be set...
    as they have been since the beginning to time.  ".dec.com" for Netscape
    Navigator and "*.dec.com" for Internet Explorer.  This is not new.  ##
    
    By the way... the proxy settings for access should be:
    www-proxy.{your-site-code}.dec.com (in most cases)
    
    (Ping it to see if it works for you; it's not everywhere.)  An
    attempt was made to point www-proxy at each site DNS domain to the
    closest/fastest proxy server on our corporate WAN.  (People still point
    to PA or CRL even though there are closer servers that would minimize
    WAN traffic.)
    
    This, of course, only applies to people not using AltaVista Tunnel for
    access to the network.  In that case, you never use a proxy and do not set
    a "no proxy" setting at all.  (You're on the external and internal
    Internet at the same time.)
    
    --Ron
    
    
    ## In some sites, there might be special caching proxy servers that
       are intended to reduce WAN usage.  In these cases, "no proxy" might
       not be set -- all data is funneled through the cache.  This is
       mostly overseas.
    
    
4683.2MRPTH1::16.121.160.237::slab[email protected]Thu May 22 1997 00:285
What's this "ping" thing I keep seeing?

How does one "ping" a site/location, and from where is it done?

4683.3BBQ::WOODWARDC...but words can break my heartThu May 22 1997 03:4128
    "ping" is a utility program that checks to see if a target machine is
    "alive" (in a tcp/ip kind of way).
    
    If you (in Win95) shell to MS-DOG, and at the promt type ping and then
    an address, say, 16.121.160.237 (stealing the number from you last
    entry) you should see something like...
    
    C:\WINDOWS>ping 16.121.160.237
    
    Pinging 16.121.160.237 with 32 bytes of data:
    
    Reply from 16.121.160.237: bytes=32 time=410ms TTL=121
    Reply from 16.121.160.237: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=121
    Reply from 16.121.160.237: bytes=32 time=372ms TTL=121
    Reply from 16.121.160.237: bytes=32 time=362ms TTL=121
    
    C:\WINDOWS>
    
    which tells you that the target machine is alive and responding, and
    that there is a bit of distance between us.
    
    Think of it as somewhat analogous to a submarine 'ping' that emits a
    sonic burst of energy to see if there is a 'reflection' that something
    is there. 
    
    hth,
    
    H
4683.4PRIME8::VAUGHNMike Vaughn DTN 339-5325Thu May 22 1997 09:575
Thanks for the reply (.1).  Indeed, my problem was an incorrect
proxy setting; "dec.com" and the "do not use proxy server..."
checkbox didn't work; it was *.dec.com as you suggested.

Thanks again.
4683.5MRPTH1::16.34.80.132::slab[email protected]Thu May 22 1997 12:085
RE: .3

Thanks!!

4683.6Or you can participate in the Millicent trials...TWICK::PETTENGILLmulpFri May 23 1997 21:3112
which requires that you use an automatic proxy configuration.

I'm not sure what this does, but I'm guessing that someone who knows
what's what is setting up the server that provides the automatic proxy
info and your browser gets updated automatically with the right stuff.

The reason that CCS doesn't have one is
	1. no one has told them about it
	2. they have to wait until next year to budget and buy the system
	3. it doesn't really work
	4. it would eliminate the need to communicate with your coworkers
	5. ???
4683.7Another re: IESHRCTR::PJOHNSONVaya con huevos.Mon May 26 1997 14:114
Is it possible to specify another area to keep favorites, like on a
network share that I can use both at work and from home?

Pete
4683.8WOTVAX::dhcp57.olo.dec.com::hattosI'm back - as a matter of factWed May 28 1997 09:048
Bit of an unfair slight on CCS doncha think?

We've had a proxy server in OLO for 2 years (I ran it, whilst I was in CCS). 
We now have a CCS managed Proxy server in REO.

CCS aren't the same everywhere, some are pretty good.

Stu
4683.9BUSY::SLABAudiophiles do it 'til it hertz!Wed May 28 1997 13:0311
    
    	RE: .7
    
    	I carry a Netscape bookmark.htm file around with me on a disk and
    	transfer it to the system before I start Netscape, so I always have
    	the same file no matter where I am.  I guess I could drop it onto
    	an NT file server and import it whenever I open Netscape, but I
    	haven't tried it yet.
    
    	Does IE have an "import favorites" option?
    
4683.10SHRCTR::PJOHNSONVaya con huevos.Wed May 28 1997 15:333
Not that I can find.

Pete
4683.11XSTACY::imladris.ilo.dec.com::grainneGrainne Ni ChoilighThu May 29 1997 06:2015
Re: .10

The Microsoft IE Favourites are just Internet Shortcuts stored on 
disc - you can  copy some or all folders between machines or between 
different users on the same machine (e.g. if you want to share useful 
links with a co-worker.)

On Windows NT these are stored at:

?:\WINNT??\Profiles\<<username>>\Favorites

I think you could probably use the Briefcase utility to automatically 
keep them updated between machines, but I haven't 
tried this.