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Conference gyro::internet_toolss

Title:Internet Tools
Notice:Report ALL NETSCAPE Problems directly to [email protected].rnet? Read note 448.L for beginner information.
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Created:Fri Jun 25 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4714
Total number of notes:40609

4602.0. "mailx + Netscape Mail Server?" by OSTV03::MAKI (TANSTAAFL) Thu Apr 10 1997 04:15

Hello,
I installed the Netscape MailServer 2.02 on Digital UNIX 4.0A (JP).
Does anyone know how to use Unix UMA ( binmail, mailx, mh, etc. )
with Netscape MailServer?

The administration manual says: 
"UNIX delivery places messages directly into the user's maildrop
file in his or her UNIX account."

But messages to the user who choose Unix delivery option
are still stored in /var/spool/mailbox/USERNAME/in, not in /var/spool/mail.
How to read these mail from mailx ?

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Maki Watanabe	[Internet System, East Japan 1 - SI DEC-Japan]
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4602.1HELIX::SONTAKKEThu Apr 10 1997 13:443
    mailx -f /var/spool/mailbox/USERNAME/in
    
    should do it
4602.2why?PARZVL::ogodhcp-124-40-227.ogo.dec.com::kennedynuncam non paratusThu Apr 10 1997 16:016
just curious, but why would you install the
Netscape mailserver and then use the UNIX mail
tools?

Doesn't it make more sense to use a POP client
(e.g. Netscape Mail)?
4602.3I sometimes use UNIX mailx with my POP clientSMURF::PBECKWho put the bop in the hale-de-bop-de-bop?Thu Apr 10 1997 20:3227
    (Not speaking for the basenoter...)
    
>just curious, but why would you install the
>Netscape mailserver and then use the UNIX mail
>tools?
>
>Doesn't it make more sense to use a POP client
>(e.g. Netscape Mail)?
    
    If you set up a POP client to access your mail from home as well as
    from work (so you can see all your filed mail from home), you've got
    to access the mail folders across the dialup connection. This can be
    _very_ slow (consider that moving a large message from one folder to
    another from your home PC involves copying the entire message down
    to your home PC's memory and then back up to the network drive
    hosting the destination folder). If I just want to see what mail
    I've got waiting for me when I'm working from home, I'll use elm or
    mailx to "peek", and even read the mail, rather than firing up a
    copy of Eudora at home and waiting five minutes for it to settle
    down. Time enough to get it in my mail folders when I'm back in the
    office over a LAN connection. (And, yes, I've got the home Eudora
    set to not download messages larger than 10k; only helps some.) 
    
    I'm considering switching to the Outlook client and use the "remote
    mail" option, but in the mean time, this is an "existence proof"
    that it can be useful to use both POP clients and UNIX mail tools.
    
4602.4OSTV03::MAKITANSTAAFLFri Apr 11 1997 02:1725
Thank you all,

>    mailx -f /var/spool/mailbox/USERNAME/in    
>    should do it

"in" is a directory. So -f doesn't work.
Messages are stored in separate files, like:
	message-id@name-of-last-host-on-path
I think it may be a spool for POP/IMAP.

>just curious, but why would you install the
>Netscape mailserver and then use the UNIX mail
>tools?
>Doesn't it make more sense to use a POP client

Because:
1. Netscape Mail Server supports it, so I want to check.
2. Some people (like me and my co-workers :) prefer MH/mailx rather than
   Eudora(or Netscape Mail).

( I mainly use a Emacs based MH frontend called "mew.el", these days.
  It supports Multipart MIME and PGP/PEM. Very nice. The drawback
  is "poor document". :-)

mw
4602.5HELIX::SONTAKKEFri Apr 11 1997 10:5515
    This must be the Netscape Mail server oddity.  I use Netscape Mail
    client 3.01 on the UNIX system to read the mail when I am in the office
    and can fire up the Netscape process from the system hosting my
    incoming mail folder /var/spool/mail/sontakke
    
    When I am not in my office, I use mail to check the new mail and use
    mailx -f nsmail/Inbox	or mailx -f nsmail/folder_name
    to read old mail.  As long as I remember to "x" out of mailx,
    everything works great and mailbox remains intact.  If I "q" out of 
    mailx, stuff gets moved to ~/mbox.
    
    One would presume that Netscape server would have an option to support
    the standard mailx behaviour.
    
    - Vikas