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Title:Internet Tools
Notice:Report ALL NETSCAPE Problems directly to [email protected].rnet? Read note 448.L for beginner information.
Moderator:teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer
Created:Fri Jun 25 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4714
Total number of notes:40609

4550.0. "VMS Netscape-Communications Server problem." by LEXSS1::NELSON (Big village, be quick, bring PAKs...) Mon Mar 17 1997 15:38

Hi,

I have a customer with the following problem with the NS-COMMUNICATION product.
	VAX OpenVMS 6.1
	UCX 4.1
	DWMOTIF 1.2-4

They installed it and it claimed to install successfully, however it seems to
write into the [netscape.common.http-80.log]errors. file a pair of errors 
about 20 times every second.  The errors are...

	catastrophe: can't exec new process - not owner
	info: server ffffffff exited with status 00000000

They can stop the server via the admin page.  If they start it again, the
errors start up again.

Any ideas?  Perhaps an rtfm I can check out?

			-Randy

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4550.1Check Patches, Quotas, Security, Then Call Netscapexdelta.zko.dec.com::HOFFMANSteve, OpenVMS EngineeringTue Mar 18 1997 13:0328
:I have a customer with the following problem with the NS-COMMUNICATION product.
:	VAX OpenVMS 6.1
:	UCX 4.1
:	DWMOTIF 1.2-4

   Get the DECwindows Motif Patches for V1.2-4, and apply them.

   Make sure any necessary UCX ECOs have been applied, per the
   documentation.

:They installed it and it claimed to install successfully, however it seems to
:write into the [netscape.common.http-80.log]errors. file a pair of errors 
:about 20 times every second.  The errors are...
:
:	catastrophe: can't exec new process - not owner
:	info: server ffffffff exited with status 00000000

   Turn on process security and file access security auditing, and see
   if it creates anything interesting.

:They can stop the server via the admin page.  If they start it again, the
:errors start up again.
:
:Any ideas?  Perhaps an rtfm I can check out?

   Contact Netscape support for assistance -- the Communications Server
   is, after all, a third-party product.

4550.2Some more data would helpSTAR::KENNEYTue Mar 18 1997 14:2925
    
    	Contacting Netscape probably won't help a whole lot.  We Digital
    did the port of the code.  Your customer can do a couple of things to
    help with this.
    
    1) Get the UAF entry for the account that they run the server in.
    
    2) Get us the PQL parameters to make sure they have not restriced 
       things like subprocess ceation.
    
    3) Start a new accounting file, the roll the server and get the output
       from that.  If it got to the point of actually starting the server 
       there will be data there.
    
    4) From the admin server dump the logs from there as well.  There may
       be data there.
    
    	Does the server loop forever trying to create children.  Just
    curious as there is a piece of logic to try to keep the system from
    doing this forever.  But there are paths where it does not kick in
    this may be one of those paths.  Hopefully, the server expert will see
    this and add some more insight soon.
    
    
    Forrest
4550.3more info...LEXSS1::NELSONBig village, be quick, bring PAKs...Tue Mar 18 1997 15:1323
Hi,

On the customer system the PQLs are...

	PQL_DPRCLM	8
	PQL_MPRCLM	8

We haven't let it run forever, but we now have 6600+ records in the error
file.

Checked accounting and the final status of the process HTTPD_80 is 
	Normal successful completion.

The UAF entry created by the installation has a PRCLM of 200.

We have not modified the account by hand.

The error file in the admserv.data directory simply says
	info: successful server startup

    
			-Randy

4550.4Please supply all the requested dataSTAR::KENNEYWed Mar 19 1997 12:5412
    
    	We really need to see the whole output from a the uaf for the 
    account being used.  Also the full output from sysgen sho/pql.  Is 
    the system low on memory.  The most likely failures are the inability 
    to create the mailbox used to talk to the worker process.
    
    	How many server threads do they have the server configured to 
    use.  Have them lower it to 2, shut down the server, and start it
    back up again will 2 work.
    
    
    Forrest
4550.5this would be quickerSTAR::BLAKEOpenVMS EngineeringFri Mar 21 1997 08:412
We can try and trouble-shoot, but you should really have your customer call the
CSC.
4550.6sorry for the delay...LEXSS1::NELSONBig village, be quick, bring PAKs...Wed Mar 26 1997 14:2994
Hi,

re. CSC
-------
The customer originally got a loaner pak to test the product, while they get
the official order in.  Until that happens CSC refuses to talk to them.  So,
I'm trying to get some extra info here...

Here is the system info...

Username: HTTPD_80                         Owner:  Netscape Server
Account:  NETSCAPE                         UIC:    [500,1] ([NETSCAPE,HTTPD_80])
CLI:      DCL                              Tables: DCLTABLES
Default:  DKA200:[NETSCAPE.COMMON.HTTPD-80.LOGS]
LGICMD:   LOGIN
Flags:  DisCtlY DefCLI LockPwd DisWelcome DisMail
Primary days:   Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri        
Secondary days:                     Sat Sun
Primary   000000000011111111112222  Secondary 000000000011111111112222
Day Hours 012345678901234567890123  Day Hours 012345678901234567890123
Network:  ##### Full access ######            ##### Full access ######
Batch:    -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
Local:    -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
Dialup:   -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
Remote:   -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
Expiration:            (none)    Pwdminimum:  6   Login Fails:     2
Pwdlifetime:         90 00:00    Pwdchange:  18-MAR-1997 19:02 
Last Login:            (none) (interactive), 19-MAR-1997 19:28 (non-interactive)
Maxjobs:         0  Fillm:       100  Bytlm:        64000
Maxacctjobs:     0  Shrfillm:      0  Pbytlm:           0
Maxdetach:       0  BIOlm:       150  JTquota:       4096
Prclm:         200  DIOlm:       150  WSdef:         2000
Prio:            4  ASTlm:       250  WSquo:         4000
Queprio:         0  TQElm:       200  WSextent:     16384
CPU:        (none)  Enqlm:      2000  Pgflquo:     100000
Authorized Privileges: 
  NETMBX    TMPMBX
Default Privileges: 
  NETMBX    TMPMBX

Parameters in use: Active
Parameter Name            Current    Default     Min.     Max.     Unit  Dynamic
--------------            -------    -------    -------  -------   ----  -------
PQL_DASTLM                     24         24        -1        -1 Ast        D
PQL_MASTLM                    100          4        -1        -1 Ast        D
PQL_DBIOLM                     18         18        -1        -1 I/O        D
PQL_MBIOLM                    100          4        -1        -1 I/O        D
PQL_DBYTLM                   8192       8192        -1        -1 Bytes      D
PQL_MBYTLM                  40000       1024        -1        -1 Bytes      D
PQL_DCPULM                      0          0        -1        -1 10Ms       D
PQL_MCPULM                      0          0        -1        -1 10Ms       D
PQL_DDIOLM                     18         18        -1        -1 I/O        D
PQL_MDIOLM                    100          4        -1        -1 I/O        D
PQL_DFILLM                     16         16        -1        -1 Files      D
PQL_MFILLM                    100          2        -1        -1 Files      D
PQL_DPGFLQUOTA              32768       8192        -1        -1 Pages      D
PQL_MPGFLQUOTA                512        512        -1        -1 Pages      D
PQL_DPRCLM                      8          8        -1        -1 Processes  D
PQL_MPRCLM                      8          0        -1        -1 Processes  D
PQL_DTQELM                      8          8        -1        -1 Timers     D
PQL_MTQELM                      0          0        -1        -1 Timers     D
PQL_DWSDEFAULT                244        100        -1        -1 Pages      
PQL_MWSDEFAULT                512         60        -1        -1 Pages      
PQL_DWSQUOTA                  488        200        -1        -1 Pages      D
PQL_MWSQUOTA                 1024         60        -1        -1 Pages      D
PQL_DWSEXTENT               16400        400        -1        -1 Pages      D
PQL_MWSEXTENT               16400         60        -1        -1 Pages      D
PQL_DENQLM                     30         30        -1        -1 Locks      D
PQL_MENQLM                    200          4        -1        -1 Locks      D
PQL_DJTQUOTA                 1024       1024        -1        -1 Bytes      D
PQL_MJTQUOTA                    0          0        -1        -1 Bytes      D

              System Memory Resources on 19-MAR-1997 19:57:43.41
Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    Modified
  Main Memory (32.00Mb)            65536       29273       36050         213
Virtual I/O Cache Usage (pages):   Total        Free      In Use     Maximum 
  Cache Memory                      1646           0        1646       42193
Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     Swapped
  Process Entry Slots                 90          35          53           2
  Balance Set Slots                   81          30          51           0
Dynamic Memory Usage (bytes):      Total        Free      In Use     Largest
  Nonpaged Dynamic Memory        2262016      852608     1409408      108416
  Paged Dynamic Memory           1228288      720416      507872      714976
Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       Total
  DISK$KEPLERSYSTEM:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS                                   
                                               13920       13920       15000
  DISK$KEPLERSYSTEM:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS                                   
                                               56363      -30588      120000
Of the physical pages in use, 12378 pages are permanently allocated to VMS.

If there is anything else I can send, let me know...

					-Randy

4550.7STAR::BLAKEOpenVMS EngineeringWed Mar 26 1997 14:435
    Can you get the customer to do a SHOW SYSTEM about 30 seconds after
    attempting to start the server (while its logging the catastrophes),
    then post the output here.
    
    Thanks.
4550.8Please answer thisSTAR::BLAKEOpenVMS EngineeringWed Mar 26 1997 15:044
    How many server processes is he trying to run? This is important to
    know.
    
    Colin.
4550.9after upgrade and re-installLEXSS1::NELSONBig village, be quick, bring PAKs...Thu Mar 27 1997 15:2347
Hi,

FWIW, we upgraded the system to 7.1 (we were gonna anyway) and got the same
results.  Here is the added info...

Processes max 2 min 1.
-----------------------

OpenVMS V7.1  on node KEPLER  27-MAR-1997 19:00:43.99  Uptime  0 23:51:17
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts  Pages
00000081 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:01.87         0      0   
00000182 NS-ADMIN-81     HIB      6      380   0 00:00:00.91      6233   1476  N
00000085 IPCACP          HIB     10        6   0 00:00:00.03       212    102   
00000086 ERRFMT          HIB      8      680   0 00:00:00.36       141    232   
00000087 OPCOM           HIB      8      166   0 00:00:00.41       339    167   
00000088 AUDIT_SERVER    HIB      9       88   0 00:00:00.26       561    887   
00000089 JOB_CONTROL     HIB      9      293   0 00:00:00.22       622     89   
0000008A QUEUE_MANAGER   HIB      8      135   0 00:00:00.44       848    907   
0000008B SECURITY_SERVER HIB     10       61   0 00:00:00.36      3408    135   
0000018C SYSTEM_3        LEF      4     8356   0 00:00:05.41      2190   1227  S
0000008D LATACP          HIB     14       10   0 00:00:01.77       679    145   
0000008E DECW$SERVER_0   HIB      8     8686   0 00:01:09.89     30135   2003   
00000098 SYMBIONT_1      HIB      4       24   0 00:00:00.08       385    440   
000000B3 COYNE           HIB      7   239179   0 00:00:15.17     16826   1024   
000000B4 _LTA54:         HIB      5   223250   0 00:00:19.01     16247   1024   
000000B6 OPER            HIB      6   165937   0 00:03:26.53      8522    221   
000000B7 _LTA57:         LEF      5   200765   0 00:05:39.07     10508    231   
000000B8 _LTA58:         HIB      6   411200   0 00:01:09.33      7847    145   
000000C4 DECW$SESSION    LEF      6      417   0 00:00:02.72     18592    274   
000000C6 DECW$MWM        LEF      4      176   0 00:00:08.06     11035    642   
000000C7 VUE$SYSTEM_2    LEF      4      353   0 00:00:01.85      9148    379   
000000C8 DECW$TE_00C8    LEF      4      245   0 00:00:13.19     22341   3068   
000000C9 _FTA14:         CUR      4     9669   0 00:00:22.89     32996    590   
000000CA _FTA15:         LEF      4     6977   0 00:01:19.48     30538   7334   
000001CC HTTPD_80_SRV    LEF      4     1239   0 00:00:02.83      4669   2040  N
000000D0 _FTA16:         LEF      6     6149   0 00:00:19.83     39067    237   
000000D2 UCX$INET_ACP    HIB     10       34   0 00:00:00.08       237    158   

After I took this snap, I clicked on the option to shutdown the server.  The
hammering on the disk stopped, but the HTTPD_80_SRV process didn't go away.
It kept running, using cpu time we stopped it.

I'm guessing this is due to something unusal at site.  I'll be happy to check
anything suggested...

				-Randy

4550.10You have ECO 2 for UCX V4.1?STAR::BLAKEOpenVMS EngineeringThu Mar 27 1997 17:117
    Sorry, should have spotted this one before. If you are running UCX
    V4.1, you should have at least ECO 2 installed. Otherwise strange
    things can happen.
    
    What ECO level are you at?
    
    Colin.
4550.11we are thereLEXSS1::NELSONBig village, be quick, bring PAKs...Fri Mar 28 1997 08:206
    Hi,
    
    $ucx sh version says... 4.1 - ECO Level 2
    
    		-Randy
    
4550.12make sure account/dir is OKHNDYMN::MCCARTHYA Quinn Martin ProductionFri Mar 28 1997 09:3810
I've been out of the loop for a while but:

>>Default:  DKA200:[NETSCAPE.COMMON.HTTPD-80.LOGS]

Looks a little strange.  

I'd try modifing the UAF and to allow interactive logins (setting password etc)
and see if you can log into the account via SET HOST.  

bjm
4550.13tried it...LEXSS1::NELSONBig village, be quick, bring PAKs...Fri Mar 28 1997 10:067
    Hi,
    
    Changed the account.  Did an rlogin with no problem.  Logged in and
    was owner of the files with rwd and rwed privs.
    
    			-Randy
    
4550.14STAR::BLAKEOpenVMS EngineeringFri Mar 28 1997 18:4912
>>>Default:  DKA200:[NETSCAPE.COMMON.HTTPD-80.LOGS]
>
>Looks a little strange.  
>
>I'd try modifing the UAF and to allow interactive logins (setting password etc)
>and see if you can log into the account via SET HOST.  

Nope. That's absolutely right. 

(The days of batch queues are long gone, Brian :-) )

Colin.