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| 4534.1 | | teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer | Danny Mayer | Tue Mar 11 1997 12:47 | 4 |
| No.
Danny
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| 4534.2 | Product Manager? | CSC32::MEREOS | | Tue Mar 11 1997 13:05 | 4 |
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Who is the product manager?
Sandra
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| 4534.3 | PM | SUTRA::MOXLEY | Shiny Shoes, Shiny Mind | Wed Mar 12 1997 05:17 | 4 |
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[email protected]
Simon
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| 4534.4 | Hang on - workgroup is | SUTRA::MOXLEY | Shiny Shoes, Shiny Mind | Wed Mar 12 1997 10:11 | 4 |
| BTW *personal* tunnel might no be available on Alpha, but workgroup is,
is that any use? - customer or internal use?
Simon
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| 4534.5 | | teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer | Danny Mayer | Wed Mar 12 1997 11:13 | 5 |
| Just an FYI, the problem is that a driver has to be written for each
platform. This takes a lot of time and debugging drivers are not easy.
The group tunnel is not yet released for Alpha NT. Probably next month.
Dannt
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| 4534.6 | We use Personal Tunnel | CSC32::MEREOS | | Thu Mar 13 1997 09:59 | 8 |
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We ( Software Support Specialists) use Personal Tunnel to
access the intranet and to use windos based IRC, as well as dial
into customer sites.
Thanks everyone, I will email the Product Manager.
Sandra
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| 4534.7 | | a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Thu Mar 13 1997 16:06 | 8 |
| We'll probably be field testing a group and personal tunnel for Alpha Windows
NT very shortly (maybe next week). They share a driver, so the hard work
for the server should allow us a client port for free. From a business
perspective, an Alpha client doesn't make any sense since no one but
Digital people has a home Alpha machine running Windows NT. We'd never make
a dime on it.
j.
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| 4534.8 | | TENNIS::KAM | AltaVista Software 714/261-4133 DTN 535.4133 | Tue Mar 18 1997 21:54 | 31 |
| I don't know about this:
Digital's Low-priced Alpha
InformationWeek
17 March 1997 pg. 30
Good article on Digital and its PCs in the NT market.
An illustration accompanies this article:
The Alpha Challenge
Intel-based PCs Alpha-based PCs
233 Mhz Pentium II CPU 466 Mhz 21164 CPU
32 Mbytes RAM 8x CD-ROM
2.4-Gbyte hard disk 64-bit graphics
15-inch color monitor Windows NT
Microsoft Office $2,600
My brother-in-law purchased two HiNote VP's at Christmas time from
CompuServe for $1495. All other systems were $2800-3200. If we can
get an Alpha PC for $2600 on the market I feel we have a good chance
of getting some business. I've been running into a lot of Customer's
using Alphas in the back due to its performance, however, all other
systems are something else. We have some mindshare.
Regards,
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| 4534.8 | beta kits available internally? | ARRCEE::tunsrv2-tunnel.imc.das.dec.com::catena | Rich Catena | Thu Mar 27 1997 10:04 | 1 |
| will beta kits be available to digital people to test?
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| 4534.9 | | a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Thu Mar 27 1997 16:55 | 5 |
| � will beta kits be available to digital people to test?
Of course! Who else has Alpha systems but Digital people :-)?
j.
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| 4534.10 | thanks | ARRCEE::tunsrv2-tunnel.imc.das.dec.com::catena | Rich Catena | Fri Mar 28 1997 15:18 | 1 |
| Great! i'll be looking forward to trying it :).
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| 4534.11 | Is this the result of market research? | TWICK::PETTENGILL | mulp | Thu Apr 24 1997 02:13 | 19 |
| "an Alpha client doesn't make any sense since no one but
Digital people has a home Alpha machine running Windows NT"
Or just reading the trade editorials?
There were quite a few Alpha's sold with Window NT when the price was low
enough. Ie., the Multia's sold off at aution and thru other channels.
And the prospect of systems built with the 21164PC has a lot of hackers
drooling.
In a sea of "me too" Pentium's, computer hackers are looking for unique techie
toys and an Alpha for $2500 is more unique than an Intel for $4-5K from Micron.
Btw, those are the price points for my next computer to add to my 20 MHz 486SX.
I'm still waiting for Micron to stick on the $10 daughter card on the Intel
motherboard to bring out USB; if they delay much longer, I'll be waiting until
that add on the Firewire daughter card. I'm not buying a new computer because
I really need more than 20 MHz....
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| 4534.12 | NT Alpha Client is Shipping | DELNI::WALSH | | Thu Apr 24 1997 08:25 | 7 |
| We are supporting Alpha NT Client, because it is easier to do than to
explain why we don't. So if you guys sell thousands of Alpha NT
Desktop machines for the home, we will have the tunnel client to run on
it. By the way the bits have gone to manufacturing.
Dan
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| 4534.13 | | a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Thu Apr 24 1997 10:03 | 16 |
| � "an Alpha client doesn't make any sense since no one but
� Digital people has a home Alpha machine running Windows NT"
�
� Or just reading the trade editorials?
No, believe me. I did my years in the Alpha Migration Centers. I know
what's out there. I also talk to lots of prospective tunnel customers. They
always ask about Windows 3.1 (but all plan to migrate to Windows 95 before
we'd have a client). They always ask about Macintosh (but only for a few
"weird" people in the office who refuse to migrate :-) ). They sometimes
ask about Windows NT tunnel servers for Alpha. The only people who have
ever asked about Windows NT clients are Digital people. But it's on the
books now and we'll see how the sales go. Let's revisit this in 6 months
and see how wrong I was :-).
j.
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| 4534.14 | where is the Alpha client? | HYDRA::DONSBACH | Jeff Donsbach, Software Partner Engineering, DTN 297-6862 | Thu May 15 1997 16:57 | 5 |
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Is the Alpha/NT client included as part of the "Workgroup" edition? I don't see any "Personal"
edition for Alpha.
-Jeff D.
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| 4534.15 | | a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Mon May 19 1997 16:26 | 12 |
| � Is the Alpha/NT client included as part of the "Workgroup" edition?
� I don't see any "Personal" edition for Alpha.
The Alpha/NT client is available for beta only (it's a VERY stable beta).
You can get your copy from:
ftp server: oakhill.altavista-software.com
user: tunbeta
password: snowfall
j.
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| 4534.16 | does "beta" Alpha/NT expire? | HYDRA::DONSBACH | Jeff Donsbach, Software Partner Engineering, DTN 297-6862 | Thu May 22 1997 00:20 | 6 |
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does it have an expiration date? If so, will a new kit be posted
after that date, or will a released version be obtainable from SSB?
-Jeff D.
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| 4534.17 | | a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Thu May 22 1997 14:13 | 3 |
| Expiration of 9/1/97 at this time.
j.
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| 4534.18 | | BIGUN::nessus.cao.dec.com::Mayne | A wretched hive of scum and villainy | Thu May 22 1997 19:07 | 5 |
| > Expiration of 9/1/97 at this time.
Expired in January, huh?
PJDM
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| 4534.19 | | MRPTH1::16.121.160.254::slab | [email protected] | Thu May 22 1997 23:46 | 5 |
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On the correct side of the pond, that refers to September 1st.
8^)
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| 4534.20 | | teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer | Danny Mayer | Fri May 23 1997 09:31 | 7 |
| > On the correct side of the pond, that refers to September 1st.
>
> 8^)
>
The "correct" side of the pond shows that it's January 9th, 1997. :-)
Danny
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| 4534.21 | | a-61.tunnel.crl.dec.com::needle | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri May 23 1997 16:47 | 7 |
| � > Expiration of 9/1/97 at this time.
�
� Expired in January, huh?
Sorry for the US-centric notation. The kit will expire on September 97, 2001.
j.
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| 4534.22 | I'm glad that we have soundly rejected both proprietary DEC and ISO standards | TWICK::PETTENGILL | mulp | Fri May 23 1997 23:04 | 20 |
| The date given doesn't conform to
DEC STD 112-0 Standard Date Format for Output
DOCUMENT IDENTIFIER: A-DS-EL00112-00-0000 Rev C1, 29-Jun-1990
REVISION HISTORY: Rev A, 01-Jul-1975
Rev B, 10-Feb-1977 ECO Number MLO01
Rev C, 30-Aug-1984 ECO Number APO02
Rev C1, 29-Jun-1990 ECO Number CTS03
Document Management Category: Cross-Architecture (SA)
Responsible Department: Customer User Group
Responsible Person: Peter Conklin
nor to International Standard ISO 8601:1988
Both standards emphasize the need to represent the date in an unambiguous
form.
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| 4534.23 | | teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer | Danny Mayer | Tue May 27 1997 10:45 | 25 |
| > The date given doesn't conform to
>
> DEC STD 112-0 Standard Date Format for Output
>
> DOCUMENT IDENTIFIER: A-DS-EL00112-00-0000 Rev C1, 29-Jun-1990
>
>
> REVISION HISTORY: Rev A, 01-Jul-1975
> Rev B, 10-Feb-1977 ECO Number MLO01
> Rev C, 30-Aug-1984 ECO Number APO02
> Rev C1, 29-Jun-1990 ECO Number CTS03
>
> Document Management Category: Cross-Architecture (SA)
> Responsible Department: Customer User Group
> Responsible Person: Peter Conklin
>
> nor to International Standard ISO 8601:1988
>
> Both standards emphasize the need to represent the date in an unambiguous
> form.
Of course, Altered Visters Software is a separate subsiduary and doesn't
have to conform to ANY standards! :-)
Danny
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