Conference gyro::internet_toolss

    Downloaded it this morning.  Tried to install it, but got an error that
    said that Netscape wasn't installed on my system.  It is there but was
    not the default browser, so I set it up as the default.  Same error. 
    
    I have Netscape Gold Version 3.01.  Is the "Gold" getting in the way?

    I have Netscape (gold 3.01) as my default browser and get the same
    "Netscape is not installed! Netscape 3.0 or higher must be installed."
    error.
    
    -Bruce

I installed Netscape Communicator 4.0b something. DECface installed ok, but then when I went to 
run the demo, I got an error message of application/x unknown-content type 

my pointer was at 

file:///C|/Program Files/DIGITAL/FaceMePlugin/ttsdemo.html 

I sent a message to [email protected] but have not heard back.

    
    I installed it on my HiNote Ultra with Windoze 95 and all is well. The
    demo runs fine. Cool stuff. Now when will notes use this plug in ? :-)
    
    Thanks CRL ...
    
    Dave Y.

Pity those of us with Alphas can't try it.

PJDM

    Hi.  Thanks for all the interest so far!
    
    First a clarification.  The FaceMe! Plugin and any other technologies
    mentioned in the basenote, and the basenote itself are DIGITAL INTERNAL 
    USE ONLY.  This is to protect digital's intellectual property rights.  
    I am sure you will agree that things should only be shown to the outside 
    world once the proper protection is in place.  If you have any questions
    about this, please contact Mike Essig ([email protected]).
    
    Right, on with the questions.  Unfortunately there was a bug in the
    installation on systems which only have Navigator Gold v3 installed,
    versus systems which had other combinations of Navigator v3, Gold v3 
    etc.  A new fixed kit (FACE051.EXE) is available from 
    
    	http://www.crl.dec.com/Face
    
    Netscape Communicator 4beta is not supported at this stage, although we
    have tried 4beta1 with some limited success.  We will be doing more 
    testing with 4beta2 shortly.
    
    Regarding Alpha (presumably Windows NT), there are no plans at this
    stage for a plugin for that platform, nor Mac, UNIX or VMS.  Again
    please speak to Mike if you have large volume opportunites.
    
    Please send any questions/comments/problems to [email protected] so that
    they can be tracked and each one answered.  I probably won't get time to 
    read in here every day.  Thanks!
    
    regards,
    Robert Farago
                       

    I was dissappointed that it only read the page title.  I was expecting
    it to read the entire page.  Did I do somethign wrong?
    
    BTW, what is the purpose of the software?  That is, I've heard of
    projects that attempted to simulate mouth movements to help in training
    deaf people to read lips, but those efforts haven't met with much
    success.  At this phase of development, I'd say this software wouldn't
    be able to fill that niche either, and so far it certainly isn't better
    than reading plain text.
    
    So is this more of a technology demonstration kind of thing?  I
    apologize in advance for my lack of vision.
    
    jeb
    

Churchill's black dog wrote:
>
> Pity those of us with Alphas can't try it.
> 
> PJDM

FX!32 ran it just fine.  (Under the x86 version of Netscape.)

-Michael

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>    about this, please contact Mike Essig ([email protected]).

	You need to fix this mail address.  Either he's part of AltaVista
  Software and they have new addresses or he's no longer in LJO.

>    Regarding Alpha (presumably Windows NT), there are no plans at this
>    stage for a plugin for that platform, nor Mac, UNIX or VMS.  Again
>    please speak to Mike if you have large volume opportunites.

	If this is going to be a Digital Product, you should revisit this
  decision since Alpha NT is important to the Corporation and we are even
  getting Netscape to put their products on Alpha NT.  A faster processor
  should help in any case.

		Danny

!        I was dissappointed that it only read the page title.  I was
!    expecting it to read the entire page.  Did I do somethign wrong?
    
    Nope. That's all it does today, although we plan to make it a little
    more sophisticated before external release.  Seeing as it will be a
    "free" plugin, we have to figure out how to make money from the
    technology too, so there's a fine balance to be navigated between being a 
    cool technology demo to something that solves someones real business 
    problem.
    
    
!        BTW, what is the purpose of the software?  That is, I've heard of
!        projects that attempted to simulate mouth movements to help in training
!        deaf people to read lips, but those efforts haven't met with much
!        success.  At this phase of development, I'd say this software wouldn't
!        be able to fill that niche either, and so far it certainly isn't
!        better than reading plain text.
    
Some of the potential applications are mentioned at:
    
    http://www.crl.dec.com/projects/vision/decface.html
    
!        So is this more of a technology demonstration kind of thing?  I
!        apologize in advance for my lack of vision.
    
    Yes I guess that description is very apt.  Hopefuly lots of potential
    customers will get great ideas as to what it's useful for and we'll
    sell lots of SDK type things.
    
    >    about this, please contact Mike Essig ([email protected]).
    
!      You need to fix this mail address.  Either he's part of AltaVista
!      Software and they have new addresses or he's no longer in LJO.
    
    It still seems to work :-)  I'll ask though...
    
    >    Regarding Alpha (presumably Windows NT), there are no plans at this
    >    stage for a plugin for that platform, nor Mac, UNIX or VMS.  Again
    >    please speak to Mike if you have large volume opportunites.
    
!    If this is going to be a Digital Product, you should revisit
!    this decision since Alpha NT is important to the Corporation and we are
!    even getting Netscape to put their products on Alpha NT.  A faster
!    processor should help in any case.
    
    I agree that it's desirable to push digital hardware, but the volume
    opportunites are on Intel (just thinking like a software company would) 
    
    It may be fairly trivial to qualify on Alpha/NT and if this is the case
    it's likely we'll do it, however the performance design center has to be 
    Intel if we want to be serious about volume software technology.  If we 
    have to stall new features because of limited qualification resources to 
    do Alpha/NT, difficult (for digital the hardware company) tradeoffs will 
    have to be made.  So if you have a 1000 seat Alpha/NT opportunity which
    will need synthetic face tehcnology, let Mike know!
    
    regards,
    Robert
                                           

> (just thinking like a software company would) 

So how soon do you expect to be sold off?

PJDM

    For FaceMe business type issues, Mike Essig is the man to talk to at
    [email protected]
    
    Robert