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Title:Internet Tools
Notice:Report ALL NETSCAPE Problems directly to [email protected].rnet? Read note 448.L for beginner information.
Moderator:teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayer
Created:Fri Jun 25 1993
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4714
Total number of notes:40609

4333.0. "Netscape Communicator 4.0b1 on the SDK server" by CIRCUS::GOETZE (We'll re-evaluate it and say a tunnel is too expensive.-CalTrans) Wed Dec 18 1996 13:42

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4333.1Same error on other kits as wellengptr.zko.dec.com::ANDERSONThere's no such place as far awayWed Dec 18 1996 16:155
4333.2LJSRV2::tecotoo.ibg.ljo.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerWed Dec 18 1996 17:074
4333.3CIRCUS::GOETZEWe'll re-evaluate it and say a tunnel is too expensive.-CalTransWed Feb 19 1997 13:213
    And when might we see the Communicator 4.0 PR2 kits on the SDK server?
    
       erik
4333.4came out today....for NT/95 intelGYRO::CAETANOGreg Caetano ZKO2-2M17 381-1338Wed Feb 19 1997 15:340
4333.5CIRCUS::GOETZEWe'll re-evaluate it and say a tunnel is too expensive.-CalTransWed Feb 19 1997 16:055
    Seems like the old problem all over again...This installer is the wrong
    size.
    
       erik
    
4333.6teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerWed Feb 19 1997 16:334
	Looks fine to me.  I just downloaded it myself.  Check the file length.
   The size is exact in bytes.

		Danny
4333.9CIRCUS::GOETZEWe'll re-evaluate it and say a tunnel is too expensive.-CalTransWed Feb 19 1997 16:589
    I get 1454272 bytes. Pretty small for a whole new browser.
    
    I've downloaded twice now, with the same corrupt result on both
    NT4 and 95. The problem arises when trying to run the app. The
    first dialog goes OK, then it says it is corrupt/wrong length.
    
               erik
         End of note
      
4333.10fails for me tooYAKKA::KINGSMILLGeoff Kingsmill, AustraliaWed Feb 19 1997 17:021
4333.11teco.mro.dec.com::tecotoo.mro.dec.com::mayerDanny MayerWed Feb 19 1997 17:193
	Then it's a Netscape problem.

		Danny
4333.12retry the copy now....it should be 9MB+GYRO::CAETANOGreg Caetano ZKO2-2M17 381-1338Thu Feb 20 1997 10:520
4333.13CIRCUS::GOETZEWe'll re-evaluate it and say a tunnel is too expensive.-CalTransThu Feb 20 1997 10:543
    Thanks!
    
       erik
4333.14Still seems to be a problem...CONSLT::OWENStop Global WhiningThu Feb 20 1997 12:1217
    I'm having similar probs.  I just downloaded it from:
    
    http://ibgzko.zko.dec.com/sdk-cgi-bin/FT_software_distribution_form
    
    And windows 95 reports the file size to be: 8861KB (*1024=9073664). 
    
    But when I run the .exe, it comes back and says: 
    
    Installshield self extracting EXE
    "The file is not the correct size or is corrupt, and is unuseable"
    
    Any thoughts?
    
    Thanks,
    Steve
    
    
4333.15CIRCUS::GOETZEWe'll re-evaluate it and say a tunnel is too expensive.-CalTransThu Feb 20 1997 12:473
    Yup, same problem as before for me too.
    
       erik
4333.16Is Java 1.1 built in?CPEEDY::COOKJust say NO to that AccViO! - Java!!!Thu Feb 20 1997 14:259
    
    Is it reasonable to assume that this kit has the new version 1.1
    Java-support included in it?  (If so, could the kit-description on
    the server be updated to say so?)
    
    Thanks...
    
    						Dave
    
4333.17ok...one more timeGYRO::CAETANOGreg Caetano ZKO2-2M17 381-1338Thu Feb 20 1997 14:385
I went to my external ISP and pulled the file from
the Netscape site....

it now sits at 12,212,268 on my NT system

4333.18not in this build....GYRO::CAETANOGreg Caetano ZKO2-2M17 381-1338Thu Feb 20 1997 15:03181
             NETSCAPE COMMUNICATOR DEVELOPER PREVIEW RELEASE 2

                        DEVELOPER PREVIEW RELEASE 2
                          (EXPIRES MAY 15TH 1997)
        FOR WINDOWS 95/NT, MACINTOSH PPC AND SOME VERSIONS OF UNIX

EARLY COMMUNICATOR DEVELOPER PREVIEW RELEASE 2 AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY FOR
DEVEDGE GOLD MEMBERS
     As a valued DevEdge Gold member, we're making an early build of
     Preview Release 2 of Netscape Communicator available. We're providing
     you another opportunity to preview Communicator to assist you in your
     development planning efforts for the new feature set.

     This is an early release of the public PREVIEW RELEASE which means it
     is not feature complete or fully functional. On most platforms, the
     mail and discussion group functionality is more functional than the
     web browsing and developer/API extensions. Please use the product
     accordingly. Future releases will have more features implemented and
     will be more appropriate for product testing. The release notes are
     currently being updated and will be available soon, so please continue
     checking the Netscape Web site for the latest information.

     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
IMPORTANT:
     Please be advised that your DevEdge Gold membership agreement and
     software download license agreement applies. DevEdge Previews and
     prerelease product previews are considered confidential. Please review
     the confidentiality clause associated with the terms and conditions of
     your membership agreement.

     Additionally you are reminded that the software download license
     grants you, "the developer," rights to download software for
     development purposes only. It does not give you the right to
     redistribute the code to non-DevEdge Gold members. If you cannot
     personally abide by these terms and conditions do not proceed and
     download this software.

     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
CONTENTS

   o Download
   o System Requirements
   o Communicator Features For Web Developers
   o Technical Documentation
   o Known Problems and Features Not Yet Implemented
   o Communicator Newsgroup

DOWNLOAD

     Download Communicator Developer Preview Release 2 for Windows 95/NT
     (12.2 MB)
     Download Communicator Developer Preview Release 2 for Macintosh PPC
     (6.4 MB)
     Download Communicator Developer Preview Release 2 for IRIX 5.3 (5.2
     MB)
     Download Communicator Developer Preview Release 2 for IRIX 6.2 (5.3
     MB)
     Download Communicator Developer Preview Release 2 for Solaris 2.4/2.5
     (4.5 MB)

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
     The current preview release for Netscape Communicator is now available
     on Windows 95/NT, Macintosh Power PC, and some versions of Unix. Check
     this site for other platforms in the coming days.

     System requirements for this preview release include:

                        Windows 3.1    16MB recommended
                        Windows 95/NT  16MB recommended
                        Macintosh PPC  16MB recommended
                        Unix           32MB recommended

COMMUNICATOR FEATURES FOR WEB DEVELOPERS
     Netscape Communicator is an open email, groupware, and browser suite
     that provides the complete set of tools you need every day to easily
     communicate, share, and access information on the Intranetntranet or
     the Internet.

     Netscape Communicator provides a wealth of opportunities for
     developers to extend the power of the product. Over the next few
     months Communicator will provide enhanced programming and development
     support for your Internet and Intranet-based products and services.
     Some of the enhancements include:

                 Functional in this Release   Documentation
                                                Available
                WindowsWindows
                  3.1   95/NT  Macintosh Unix
 Dynamic layers
 with support
 for absolute                                     Layers
 positioning      Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes Documentation
 and style
 sheets
 CSS1 style                                      W3C spec
 sheets           Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes   available

 Dynamic style                                 JavaScript-
 sheets           Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes  Accessible
                                               Style Sheets
 Downloadable
 dynamic fonts    No      No       No     No
 Opportunities
 for embedded                                    W3C spec
 objects using    Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes   available
 the Object tag
 Kiosk mode       Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes
 Support for
 Java on all      Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes
 platforms
 Signed applets   No      No       No     No
 IFC 1.1 beta     No      No       No     No
 JDK 1.1
 support          No      No       No     No
 Basic ORB
 support (IIOP)   No      No       No     No
 Auto-install
 of Navigator     No      No       No     No
 Plug-Ins
 Symantec JIT     No     N/A      Yes     N/A
 Support for
 LiveConnect      Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes
 Allows
 multiple
 levels of
 authorization    No      No       No     No
 with signed
 applets and
 Plug-Ins
 Composer                                       Composer
 plug-ins         Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes  Plug-in API
 JavaScript
 enhancements
 (windowing,      Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes
 syntax,
 versioning)
 Enhanced
 table/table                                      Tables
 error            Yes    Yes      Yes     Yes Improvements
 conditions
 Supports
 interactive 3D
 with the VRML    Yes    Yes      Yes     No
 2.0 rendering
 engine
 Native support
 for OLE          Yes    Yes      N/A     N/A
 Customizable                                    NetHelp
 HTML Help via    Yes    Yes       No     No    Developers
 NetHelp                                           Site

TECHNICAL INFORMATION ON NETSCAPE COMMUNICATOR
     See the online Technical Documentation for Netscape Communicator for
     comprehensive development information. Check this site often as it is
     updated regularly.

MORE INFORMATION ON NETSCAPE COMMUNICATOR
     Check out the Communicator overview, to get a better idea of all the
     functionality it will offer users. Last Fall, Netscape announced a new
     future component of Netscape Communicator, Constellation.

KNOWN PROBLEMS AND FEATURES NOT YET IMPLEMENTED
     These release notes are in the process of being updated and should be
     used as an indication of the functionality of this release.

COMMUNICATOR NEWSGROUP
     A dedicated Netscape DevEdge Communicator newsgroup has been
     established for you to discuss your questions and findings with other
     DevEdge members. Please note that Netscape engineers monitor these
     newsgroups, although may not necessarily respond to any individual
     inquiry. Continue to use the bug reporting form to submit bugs.
        o Newsgroup for peer-to-peer feedback, comments and questions
          Note that this is a private newsgroup for DevEdge members only,
          to gain access submit the username:communicator and the password
          horseshoe.
        o Bug Reports note you will not receive a direct response to your
          report

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           Copyright � 1997 Netscape Communications Corporation
4333.19jammer.zko.dec.com::JackMarty JackFri Feb 21 1997 08:407
>    Is it reasonable to assume that this kit has the new version 1.1
>    Java-support included in it?  (If so, could the kit-description on
>    the server be updated to say so?)

I doubt it; the final 1.1 sources were first available to
Sun licensees yesterday.

4333.20CIRCUS::GOETZEWe'll re-evaluate it and say a tunnel is too expensive.-CalTransFri Feb 21 1997 15:033
    So no UNIX or Mac versions here; gotta wait for the public release?
    
       erik
4333.21Communicator 4.0PR2 doesn't work with proxiesQUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Feb 24 1997 12:5716
I had been using 4.0b1 on my W95 system without problems.  I downloaded the
"PR2" version, and found that if I have it set up to use proxies, I can't get
to ANYTHING. I set the proxy values correctly (www-proxy.zko.dec.com, port
8080), and set the "no proxy" to dec.com - just as I had before (and as I have
using Navigator 3.0b5 on VMS).  It will talk to the proxy server, but will
tell me that non-dec.com nodes are unreachable.  It won't access local dec.com
addresses either (doesn't seem to go through the proxy server for them).  If
I disable proxies, I can get to dec.com addresses.  MSIE has no problems with
internal or external addresses.

Is there something I'm missing?

				Steve

P.S.  Communicator's Navigator doesn't remember that I keep telling it NOT to
check for whether or not its the default browser - it keeps checking anyway.
4333.22try changing the proxy ... either way...KANATA::ZUTRAUENalways lookin' to learnMon Feb 24 1997 13:348
    I found the same thing.... until I _changed_  my proxy from .crl. to .pa. 
    
    I even changed it back from pa to crl .... and voila it still works!
    
    Go figure.... must be a bug? :)
    
    Cheers!
    Pete
4333.23CAMPY::ADEYIs there a 'Life for Dummies'?Mon Feb 24 1997 14:127
    re: Note 4333.21 by QUARK::LIONEL
    
    I had the same problem getting out to external sites, so I did what I
    always do in this case, I changed my proxy server (from ZKO to CRL) and
    the problem went away.
    
    Ken....
4333.24QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Feb 24 1997 14:583
Ah - crl works....  I wonder what the problem is?

			Steve
4333.25it's the change that does it....KANATA::ZUTRAUENalways lookin' to learnMon Feb 24 1997 15:442
    Seems like it's the action of changing the proxy which activates the
    proxy in the new new install. Sounds like a bug to me....
4333.26My page hangs Netscape Navigator v4PCBUOA::RGALVINhttp://sezwho.ako.dec.com/html/Galvhome.htmMon Mar 10 1997 15:0519
    A bug in NC PR2, or in my own HTML code...(?)
    
    I installed Netscape Communicator PR2 (the only version I've tried
    since Netscape v3) and have been able to reproduce a hang, simply by
    loading my own home page.
    
    The same page loads fine in both Internet Explorer v3 (and down) as
    well as all Netscapes up to v3.
    
    If you want to test this, my URL is:
    
    http://sezwho.ako.dec.com/html/Galvhome.htm
    
    I have animated GIF's, so my guess is that it's failing there...other
    than the GIF's, there's nothing fancy.
    
    My test machine is a Celebris XL 6200 running MS NT v4 Server.
    
    Rob
4333.27secure news access always uses security proxy if defined?LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 381-0426 ZKO1-1)Thu Apr 10 1997 12:2322
        A problem that I had with Netscape Communicator PR2, and
        continue to have with PR3 (Windows NT Intel):

        I use the "message center" to read both the public newsgroups
        (via one of the NNTP servers on Digital's News backbone) and
        the newsgroups mirrored from Netscape via the server at
        nssnews-gw.pa-x.dec.com.

        Access to the News backbone server works just fine.

        When I try to access the Netscape newsgroups via
        nssnews-gw.pa-x.dec.com, I find that Communicator tries to
        contact the proxy server I have configured as the "manual
        proxy" security proxy.  If I blank that out I can connect to
        the nssnews-gw.pa-x.dec.com server, otherwise I cannot.

        I do have .dec.com listed as a "do not proxy" exception, but
        it would appear that this is being ignored in this case.

        (I have reported this to Netscape, BTW.)

        Bob