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Conference decwet::winnt-clusters

Title:WinNT-Clusters
Notice:Info directories moved to DECWET::SHARE1$:[NT_CLSTR]
Moderator:DECWET::CAPPELLOF
Created:Thu Oct 19 1995
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:863
Total number of notes:3478

580.0. "FTbeta 1.1 pbs" by AEOENG::16.40.240.154::annecy::lehy () Fri Jan 24 1997 13:20

Pbs seen so far with FTbeta 1.1

SQL:
----

I can successfully enroll one SQL database for failover, not two.

I could not enroll a SQL database without SQL setting the database as  
suspect the first time it comes online.
I have to reset the suspect flag, then everything is ok (failover works)
This is an issue if trying to "clusterize" an existing database.


IP Failover
-----------

Trying to put an IP address in a group when the IP address is already in 
use on the LAN causes a lot of problems (try it)

I had a situation where deleted IP objects where still displayed in the 
class view. cluadmin had to consult Doctor Watson. Usually, rebooting both 
nodes fixes the Pb.



Notes 4.5 Failover
------------------

Using partitioned server capabilities of Notes 4.5 and the IP failover of 
NT cluster is just GREAT. The Notes servers may run on any member of the NT 
cluster, the client do not care which host is running the Notes Server.
Mailbox files of Notes users are highly available (Cluster capabilities of 
Notes cannot bring the same level of availability).

I use srvany (NT ressource kit) to install the partitioned servers as 
services, and be able to start/stop the services from cluster scripts. Its 
works nicely, Failing over a Notes Server partition works perfectly.

BUT

The only pb is that the notes servers exits when I logoff off the NT server 
running the Notes servers processes.

A single Notes server installation can be installed as a service, and it 
works as expected ie the server survives a logoff).

The Notes documentation also states that partitioned server cannot be 
installed as services. I understand now why. 


This is certainly a Notes issue, not an NT cluster issues. Lotus Notes 
customers running partitioned servers will face the same problem.


I think this is an important restriction. Has this problem be reported to 
Lotus ? 


Regards

Christophe


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580.1SQL Service Pack 2 ???AEOENG::16.40.240.154::annecy::lehyFri Jan 24 1997 13:265
Reading through this notesfile, I have seen that people are using SQL 6.5 
plus SP2. Is there a service pack 2 for SQL 6.5 ? I am running 
	NT4.0 + SP2
	SQL 6.5 + SP1
CHris
580.2Available at:MBSVAX::SLOANFri Jan 24 1997 15:089
    re .-1 > Is there a service pack 2 for SQL 6.5 ?
    
    Available at the Microsoft BBS softlib/mslfiles:
    12-23-96        S20395  65sp2ppc.exe    SQL Server 6.5 Service Pack
    212-23-96        S20394  65sp2mip.exe    SQL Server 6.5 Service Pack
    212-23-96        S20393  65sp2alp.exe    SQL Server 6.5 Service Pack
    212-23-96        S20392  65sp2x86.exe    SQL Server 6.5 Service Pack 2
    
    /Shaun
580.3RTMLJSRV1::GOODMANMon Jan 27 1997 11:294
There is a release note for the situation you describe for SQL  RTM

IP:  You can't use an IP address that already exists on the Lan.  Reserve a
static address for the Cluster IP address
580.4SQL, not the situation described in Rel NotesAEOENG::16.40.240.154::annecy::lehyTue Jan 28 1997 03:1757
re -3

>IP:  You can't use an IP address that already exists on the Lan.  Reserve 
>a static address for the Cluster IP address

I understand, that and it is not my purpose to create an operational
IP object for an address which is already in use on the LAN. I am just 
stating/reporting that if you make a mistake/typo (I did it, I used an 
existing IP address to create an IP object), the cluster software will be 
in trouble.


>there is a release note for the situation you describe for SQL  RTM

I always (never say always :-) read the release notes but I may have 
misunderstood some point.

a) suspect flag
   Again, I am just telling that I could not successfully enroll a database             
without this database having the suspect flag first set by SQL.
   
b) enroll a second database

   Section 4.2.4 from the Release Notes 
    "If unrolled Databases Become Suspect after a failover" 
   explains that I should first enroll the database in a failover group 
   Before running the stored procedures.
   The pb is that I CANNOT enroll a second database, its suspect flag 
   being set or cleared :-) .


   I will see if applying SQL SP2 fixes the problem.


From release Notes

4.2.4 If Unenrolled Databases Become Suspect After a Failover
-------------------------------------------------------------
Cluster software now lets you enroll SQL databases in 
failover groups and unenroll them. If an unenrolled database
on a cluster share becomes suspect after a failover, you can
perform the following steps:

  1. Enroll the database in a failover group.

  2. In the SQL Enterprise Manager Query Tool, run the 
     following two procedures in order:

     sp_fallback_dec_clean
     sp_fallback_activate_svr_db

     These procedures are listed in the master database.

  3. Unenroll the database from the failover group.



580.54.2.2 in the release notesLJSRV1::GOODMANTue Jan 28 1997 11:204
There is a section in the release notes called "preparing an existing SQL
Database for a new cluster". For Beta V1.1 you must execute sp_dboption to
take the Database off-line before the  cluster installation.  After you
create the failover group put the databases on-line and enroll them.
580.6cluster is already installedAEOENG::16.40.240.154::annecy::lehyWed Jan 29 1997 11:523
But I am trying to create a database after the cluster installation.
I will see if sp_dboption helps in this case.

580.7new Pb with Domino WEB ServerAEOENG::16.40.240.154::annecy::lehyWed Jan 29 1997 11:5650
Gents

I just discovered the following new pb with Domino Web Server


1- Domino (partitioned) servers are running on a single machine in the 
cluster (the other system is down), failover is working as expected

2- the IP names for the Domino servers are (for example) 
	ServerA
	ServerB
   these names correspond to the IP failover objects. I have checked that
   the name resolution is OK on all the systems (cluster members and client 
   workstation)
 
3-  I use netscape to connect to http://ServerA

	ServerB responds !

	I stop Domino ServerA and connect again to http://ServerA

	ServerB responds !!! (argh)

4- I restart ServerA, ie ServerA and ServerB are again running on the same 
system.

5- I use the Notes client to connect to a database on ServerA

	=> it works as expected

	=> I stop Domino Server A and try to connect to ServerA again

	=> It fails (as expected)

To fix this, I tried to use the DOMCFG.NSF database to create virtual WEB 
servers and specify an IP address. This does not fix the Pb (same 
behaviour)


Any idea ? Did you test this point.

the Notes.ini files contain the following entry

TCPIP_TcpIpAddress=0,<floating IP addresss>:1352


Christophe



580.8Try setting the IP port numberLJSRV1::ILSLEYBlow up the abattoir!Wed Jan 29 1997 14:3713
Re: .7

Did you try setting a different IP port
for one of the web servers, using the
HTTP settings (Public Address book, Server document)?

The default port for web servers is 80.
You'd have to set the port for a second web server
to a different port number (81, 82, etc.).
The user would need to specify the port number.

For example:  http:\\ServerA:81

580.9re -1. it works but its not niceAEOENG::16.40.240.154::annecy::lehyThu Jan 30 1997 06:5714
re -1

>Did you try setting a different IP port

Yes, it works. But this is not very nice. If you are a provider and run
the Notes networks for five companies on your cluster, then the 
customers will have to enter http://www.mycompany.xxx.com:<portnumber>
It seems that the http machine in Domino is listening at all IP addresses 
enabled on the system. 

But this is probably not a Cluster issue, and I'll see if there is a Domino 
conference somewhere.

Thanks.
580.10I think this is a general restriction...LJSRV1::ILSLEYBlow up the abattoir!Thu Jan 30 1997 15:405
re: .9

I believe this is a general restriction (or feature :))
for web servers, not a Domino issue.