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378.1 | | NETRIX::michaud | Mork | Tue Aug 29 1995 22:53 | 4 |
| > Anyone have any comments?
Let me ask you the same question, do *you* have any comments?
Or didn't you watch it??
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378.2 | I BELIEVE!!!!!!! | POLAR::BAHM | | Wed Aug 30 1995 11:54 | 8 |
| I did watch Alein Autopsy and it was very interesting. I found it
difficult not to believe that it could be true! I believe that there
is other BEINGS elsewhere. I am from the Valley and there have been
LOTS of sightings, but I have not been so lucky.
Any more comments?
Paula
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378.3 | Hard not to! | POLAR::LARABIE | | Wed Aug 30 1995 13:05 | 10 |
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I watched it too and found it hard not to believe. The interviews, I
found, were really convincing. They had everyone from Kodac to past
military cameramen authenticating the year and quality of the film.
They also had a special effects team saying that it would be difficult,
even nowadays, to create an alien so lifelike.
What's everyone else think about this?
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378.4 | see any little grey guys? | POLAR::SPINKSC | | Wed Aug 30 1995 13:20 | 14 |
| i do believe that there could be life on other planets, but i am not to
sure if i would like to meet one face to ?????. i have a friend that
knows of a person that says they had an encounter more than once! but
the last time it was very scary for them, as their house got very
bright and it went ice cold! but only for a second. gee i wander if
they are checking them out for real reason or if they just like this
family????
anybody else know of someone sighting these little guys?
cindy
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378.5 | human with et features | GRANPA::JBOBB | Janet Bobb dtn:339-5755 | Wed Aug 30 1995 14:28 | 24 |
| I did not see the show (watching ST:VOY premeire), but the FOX 10pm
news after the show had clips and talked about it. The clips they
showed were actually very fuzzy stills of what was meant to be an alian
on a table, maybe operating table? and it looked hokey.
But, what caught my attention the most was an interview they showed
(might have been from the show itself) where the human talking (and I
don't remember if he was pro- or anit- encounter) looked almost
identical to the alien. .... I swear.... he had a very large, elongated
head, just like you see in most "alien" shots. did anyone else see
this? Was he on the show?
It was enough to make me believe that anything could have been faked,
using this guy as the model!
I'd be willing to believe there are other lifeforms out there. Heck, I
believe there are lifeforms we haven't found here on earth. And I know
there are lifeforms here that we don't understand - dolphins, whales,
bugs, etc. I just hope they're (et's) friendly and that we don't
annihilate them either through ignorance or stupidity. From a ST:TNG
episode, a crystaline alien described humans as "ugly bags of mostly
water".
janetb.
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378.6 | See 12DOT2::UFO topic 251. | STRATA::RUDMAN | Always the Black Knight | Wed Aug 30 1995 14:45 | 1 |
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378.7 | .02 | BRAT::MCCLELLAN_W | | Fri Sep 01 1995 09:23 | 9 |
| Saw most of the show. I believe the whole thing will be proven to be
a hoax. Just too many holes. Chris Carter could have done a more
believable film.
As for the overall subject of UFOS/other life forms, even Carl Sagan
admits it's a mathmatical probability. Maybe one day we'll find out.
FWIW,
Bill
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378.8 | | NETRIX::michaud | Jeff Bridges | Tue Sep 05 1995 11:57 | 18 |
| Well I saw the encore presentation last night. Supposedly
they were going to include some additional footage not
shown last week (what a marketing ploy to sucker folks who
saw it the 1st time into seeing it again).
I was really disappointed that out of a film that I believe
they said is only 23 minutes long, that they only actually
showed a couple minutes (no more than 5 is my guess) of clips
from it. Plus they aliased out the supposed alien's crotch.
What really caught my attention was what I believed was the
statement by someone from the group that bought the film that
they were placing the film in the public domain. Does anyone
know if this was actually done? If so, is it available on
the Internet as an MPEG (or other format) file???
Seeing only brief clips (and not even in chronological order!)
of the film sounds to me like FOX is just milking this baby ....
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378.9 | | POWDML::VENTURA | Bad spellers of the world, UNTIE!! | Tue Sep 05 1995 13:29 | 5 |
| RE: .6
file not found.
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378.10 | re: .6 should be 12DOT2::UFOS | AWECIM::MCMAHON | DEC: ReClaim TheName! | Tue Sep 05 1995 14:17 | 3 |
| It's really 12DOT2::UFOS
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378.11 | | BUSY::SLABOUNTY | Career Opportunity Week at DEC | Fri Oct 20 1995 11:43 | 70 |
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From: US2RMC::"[email protected]" "MAIL-11 Daemon" 19-OCT-1995 17:12:17.43
To: FocusUFO recipients <[email protected]>
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Subj: Flaw in Production of Alien Autopsy
FLAW IN PRODUCTION OF ALIEN AUTOPSY
The alien autopsy was faked, there is proof that it was filmed on a set
with two cameras and edited together to look like a single camera take.
The story has always been that an unidentified cameraman did all the
filmwork on a Bell and Howell 70 "filmo" hand held camera. There is
direct evidence of at least two cameras being present.
Last week the video tape of the production from _For the People
Presents... UFO Update Fall of '95_ was mailed out. It contains an
intact sequence of the film contents with SMPTE timing codes superimposed
on each frame. This allows us to reference each frame of the video
exactly. There are two images which prove that there were at least two
cameras involved in the production:
01:05:25:15 and 01:10:45:28.
See http://www.uwf.edu/~stankuli/alien/autopsy.html
to compare these images.
The earlier frame is found in a sequence of 16 frames which are out of
place by 5 minutes in the videotape. The pathologist had just finished
the long central cut of the abdomen and there is a half second
flash-forward to the ear-to-ear incision over the top of the head. This
can not be a mistake of processing from the original film into video
media, because the later sequence around 01:10:45:28 shows the same
incision being made over the head but from a different angle from the
earlier. There had to be two cameras filming the overhead incision, it
could not have been done by a single cameraman as claimed. The shot from
the steeper angle (01:05:25:15) was probably intended to be discarded as
the pathologist's headgear obscured the end of the cutting motion. The
one from the angle of the table was better to show the motion. There are
probably more perspective errors in the production.
Look at these frames and you will see what the Fox production _Alien
Autopsy_ with Jonathan Frakes either missed or supressed in their
broadcast last september. Certainly the earlier sequence ended up on
their cutting room floor.
This discovery was made when Dr. Stan Kulikowski II, a research scholar,
was reviewing the video with graphics specialist, Bruce Whitmarsh. Dr.
Kulikowski has been doing some studies of the UFO phenomena popular in
the Gulf Breeze area. Mr. Whitmarsh is a former combat photographer and
film director for the Navy and was providing his knowledge of the filming
techniques used by the military and used by film specialists at the
University of Southern California, where Bruce studied cinematography.
"What caused me to be suspicious of the single camerman story was that
there was never any shot which showed the fourth wall of the room they
were supposed to be in," said Whitmarsh. "That suggests a film set
rather than a real hospital room. Stan then pointed out that there
really were two walls missing: the one to the left of the alien and the
other at her feet. We were searching for other walls when we noticed the
strange half-second clip inserted at 5 minutes after the long belly cut."
Comparison of the two images of head incision are impossible with a
single camera. "This looks like a student film production, done on a set
with with several cameras then edited to look like one with a lot of
flashes and deliberate film errors put in to disguise the production
shifts."
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