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259.39 | | JULIET::LANE_BE | | Sat May 14 1994 09:07 | 3 |
| I missed the last part.. can someone fill me in?
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259.40 | 7.5/10? Yeah, I'll buy that one, too... | WONDER::REILLY | Sean Reilly CSG/AVS DTN:293-5983 | Sat May 14 1994 11:45 | 16 |
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Hit the target: Stu, Tom Cullen, Glen Bateman, Lloyd Henried, Julie
Lawry, Mother Abagail, maybe Ralph Brentner, and
begrudgingly, Flagg (needed to cut the comedy is
all).
Close/Near miss: Nick Andros, Lucy Swann, Susan Stern, Harold Lauder
Missed: Frannie Goldsmith, Nadine, Larry Underwood, Joe
Larry Underwood was not only my favorite "Stand" character, he was my
favorite all-time King character. I really felt they missed the
essence of what he was about -- I don't blame Adam Storke, he just didn't
have the writing.
- Sean
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259.41 | more questions... | WORLD::SWONG | | Tue May 17 1994 03:31 | 12 |
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re: .25 thanks! I saw the last 5 minutes of the first episode and saw
them trying to kill Stu. Ok, so where did Flagg come from? was it just
a matter of after the flu that people just ended up being either good
or evil or on the fence?
It was ok but I agree with someone who said that alot of key points
were not explained...one of the ones is the Trash man at the end and
why did he do what he did...and I thought the ending was really weak
kinda a cop-out! and I know Flagg has no trouble killing anyone so why
did he force the guy that played Albert in Twin Peaks kill people for
him when he could've very well did it himself?
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259.42 | | MOLAR::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dogface) | Tue May 17 1994 06:32 | 13 |
| re: .38
>> 3) The way Frannie and Harold painted the sign on the roof to show
>> where they are going!
>
>YES. Having Frannie and Harold just happen upon Stu and Glen was quite
>a stretch ... I mean, what are the odds?
Yeah - it's been quite some time since I read the book, but it hit me as kinda
funny that anyone heading for Stovington, Vermont from Ogunquit, Maine would
make the trip via Attleboro, MA., especially via motorbike.
-Jack
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259.43 | | BEDAZL::MAXFIELD | | Tue May 17 1994 06:51 | 8 |
| re: .42
I know, that bothered me too (Ogunquit to Vermont via Attleboro),
and it bothered me even more when, during the last segment,
they mentioned that Glen Batemen was from Woodsville NH!
Now, that made sense (whether there's a Woodsville or not).
Richard
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259.44 | | OOTOOL::CHELSEA | Mostly harmless. | Wed May 18 1994 09:30 | 33 |
| Re: .41
The book fills in a lot of gaps.
>Ok, so where did Flagg come from?
Flagg was some criminal type, but after the devastation, he underwent
some kind of transformation; one he felt coming, some kind of destiny
he had been born to. In the book, his hands have no lines (no life
line, no heart line, etc.) which is an indication that he is something
other than human.
>one of the ones is the Trash man at the end and why did he do what he
>did
In the book, Trash blows up some trucks and helicopters at the airport
because someone teases him about his fire fixation; it flashes him back
to his childhood and he reacts through fire. After, he realizes that
he has betrayed the Walkin Dude, so he runs, but then he gets the idea
of atoning by bringing him the Big Fire.
>and I thought the ending was really weak
It was a major letdown. But in the book, Stu tries to make sense of it
and figures that God always has to have a blood sacrifice. (Definitely
an Old Testament version of God.)
>I know Flagg has no trouble killing anyone so why did he force the guy
>that played Albert in Twin Peaks kill people for him when he could've
>very well did it himself?
It's a way for Lloyd to demonstrate his loyalty, and at the same time
it reinforces the bond between them.
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259.45 | | BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTY | I'm just a little crazy. | Wed Aug 31 1994 01:06 | 51 |
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I read the book last month [uncut], and saw the 1st half of
the movie last week. A few comments:
Seems that Rita has been completely ignored in the movie
version of the story. Larry left NY with Nadine instead,
to avoid introducing another character. But I think Rita
was rather important in the development of Larry's character.
And maybe they want to do away with another character, Joe.
But no:
Joe is with Lucy Swan? Why?
Nit: Harold had a Cadillac in the book, but in the movie he
shows up in a Lincoln.
Harold should be heavier than the character playing him is.
And, IMO, he's too good-looking to be playing Harold, even
with his red-marker pimples.
We don't even know that Frannie is pregnant yet, or not as
far as I can tell. For all I know, they'll write that out
of the story too. Jessi had his 5 seconds of fame when his
name was mentioned by Frannie ... "he's my EX-boyfriend".
Never saw Frannie's mother, and missed some development on
the situation at home, and only saw her father for a couple
minutes.
Rob Lowe is OK as Nick [my favorite character], but he's too
muscular. Not that Rob's a brute, but Nick, to me, is not a
fighter ... carrying the sheriff's gun around with him so he
could defend himself if need be. Nick should have been a
thin, average-height blonde [or light-brown-haired] kid.
I like Lloyd [who to me is the slimeball executive from the
1st "Robocop" movie, since I didn't watch "Twin Peaks"].
Trashcan Man ... can't do much worse than Matt Frewer if you
need someone to play a psycho. 8^)
Randall Flagg - haven't seen much of him, but seems OK. Maybe
too good-looking and not evil-looking enough, but after I gave
it a little thought I figured it was a good look because now
he's a psycho that looks like a normal person. Charles Manson
has the perfect "psycho look", but I think that look is too
obvious and doesn't allow for good "blending".
GTI
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259.46 | | BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTY | I'm just a little crazy. | Wed Aug 31 1994 04:49 | 9 |
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And keep in mind that when condensing a 20-hour book down to a
6-hour movie, there's a good chance that the 14 hours that are
cut out are going to be character development.
8^)
GTI
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