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Title:The TV Chatter Notes Conference
Notice:Welcome to TV Chatter :-)
Moderator:PASTA::PIERCE
Created:Wed Dec 16 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:498
Total number of notes:5416

245.0. "Ellen (Formerly, These Friends Of Mine)" by MILPND::J_TOMAO () Thu Mar 31 1994 03:10

    And another, and another, and another
    
    Well here we go again - yet another stand up comedian gets their own
    show.  Ellen Degenres (sp) of Very Fine fruit juice commercial fame,
    now has her own 1/2 hour sitcom.  She/they keep saying - its not like
    Seinfeld - well after actually catching most of it last night I must
    say, thou protests too much.....
    
    So far its about 4 adult friends and their lives and the little or big
    annoying things in life.....like a bad DMV photo, gee doesn't sound
    a bit like Jerry and crew now does it?
    
    Ok so I'm being a bit rough on the new show - and to be honest I was on
    the phone most of the show and I didn't give it my full attention,
    but I didn't think it deserved it. 
    
    Like Entertainment Tonight said - the producers must really be pulling
    for this show to succeed it has gotton two Primo time slots, last night
    after Roseanne and its regular slot will be following Home Improvement.
    
    High hopes for a clone show if you ask me.
    
    Jt
                      
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245.1BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Thu Mar 31 1994 04:387
    
    	Did Ellen play a receptionist, or a real estate agent, on "Open
    	House", that show with Mary Page Keller and a couple other people
    	who shall be nameless for the time being because my mind is a
    	complete blank?
    
    							GTI
245.2SLOHAN::FIELDSStrange BrewThu Mar 31 1994 05:0110
    I saw this last night and it was funny...I did find myself comparing it
    to Seinfeld, but it was still funny....
    
    in the Worcester T&G sunday tv pullout there is a write up about the
    show...(maybe tonite Ill type it in)
    
    I'll watch tonight too and see if they can keep it up two shows in a
    row. 
    
    Chris
245.3My 2 centsASABET::TAVARESoh wellThu Mar 31 1994 05:119
    
    
    	I only caught the last 15 minutes or so of this show yesterday
    night.  I also completely agree with .0 about this show being just
    like Seinfeld.  I just kept thinking same lines different show. 
    Although I have to admit I do like Seinfeld much better.  
    
    
    Salet
245.4MILPND::J_TOMAOThu Mar 31 1994 05:416
    RE: GTI
    
    Yup - that was her.  And the woman on Open House now plays Tom Arnold's
    wife on his new show.  Alison LaPlacia I believe
    
    Jt
245.5BUSY::SLABOUNTYIs this p_n great or what?Thu Mar 31 1994 05:464
    
    	I thought so ... thanks!!
    
    							GTI
245.6CLICK!AKOCOA::LPIERCEThat's my StoryThu Mar 31 1994 06:5111
    
    Yes, it is just like Seinfeld...espally the answering maching part
    and the DMV photo...instead of 3 guys and a girl, it's 3 girls
    and a guy....so it's like 3's company meets Jerry!  :-)
    
    I like comady as much as the next guy...but I dont want it 7 days
    a week....stop killing us w/ sitcoms!!!!!  
    
    BRING BACK SHOWS LIKE "AGAINST THE GRAIN"  a show w/meaing!
    
    Lou
245.7Boring - Yawn Yawn YawnMIMS::STEFFENSEN_KOverwhelmed by pollenThu Mar 31 1994 06:585
    
    I saw this one too and have to say it is going to have to get a lot
    better or it won't be on my to watch list. 
    
    Ken
245.8MY FRIENDS ARE THIS FUNNY!SOLVIT::BOGERThu Mar 31 1994 08:2412
    
    Likeness aside, I thought the show was good.  As a matter of fact,
    so much of the humor seemed like everyday life to me that I found
    myself comparing the lines to what my friends and I say to each 
    other................ wait a minute......... let's think about this;
    a show about single secretaries stuck in southern NH -- this just
    might be a brainstorm!  
    
    Looking forward to tonight's episode!
    
    CLB
    
245.9EVMS::MDNITE::RIVERSStupid, STUPID rat creatures!Thu Mar 31 1994 08:3915
    Well, I kinda like Ellen D. better than Jerry S., and I watched most of
    this show last night. I thought it was kinda funny, although it is
    leaping on the "comedies about whatever" Seinfeld-esque bandwagon.  The
    trend to keep the comic's name the same as their character (Jerry is
    Jerry, Ellen is Ellen, Roseanne is Roseanne, Tom is Tom, etc is etc...)
    seems to keep on goin' -- you gotta wonder if maybe this is supposed to
    be a selling point, or do stand up comedians forget "pretend" names? :)
    
    It was cute, didn't have any precocious kids and for the last point
    alone, gets marks.  :)
    
    
    Cheers,
    
    kim
245.10MILPND::J_TOMAOThu Mar 31 1994 08:443
    Ditto on the lack of kids being a bonus.
    
    Jt
245.11TOHOPE::WSA038::SATTERFIELDClose enough for jazz.Thu Mar 31 1994 11:1211

I'm not a fan of sitcoms ("Seinfeld" being the only one I watch and that only
occaisionally and sometimes "Grace Under Fire" because she went to the same
high school as I) but I did like this. It certainly seems to be modeled after
"Seinfeld" but that's ok with me. I like Ellen D. as much if not more than
Jerry S. 


Randy

245.12BEDAZL::MAXFIELDFri Apr 01 1994 04:2915
    I like Ellen DeGeneres a lot, so I'm wishing her success, a weekly
    dose of her humor can't be all bad (I think the major difference
    between her and Seinfeld is the degree of sarcasm; the Seinfeld
    crew is really mean to each other, I hope Ellen and her friends
    are kinder and gentler ;-) ).
    
    The premiere show had a couple of great moments, especially
    Ellen's "run-in" with the state trooper ("Can I get fries
    with that ticket?"...you had to see it to appreciate it).
    
    Also, her singing "Fill me up Buttercup" was a high point, mostly
    because just last week I was singing it with a couple friends
    in the cafeteria...Art imitates Life once again!
    
    Richard
245.13Second showANGLIN::SHARROWIf the man wants to box, I'll out box the man...Sat Apr 02 1994 02:0013
    Isn't this her second shot at a show? Didn't she have a show called
    something like "It my talk show" or some such nonsense, that ran on Fox
    about three or four years ago? The show was about her hosting a talk
    show from her house in a small Wisconsin(?) town.
    
    She also does ads for USwest in the midwest (in the role of a pet shop 
    owner) pushing cellular phones, pagers, and other communication
    services.
    
    I only saw a minute of her new show, so I'll hold any comment.
    
    
    Greg
245.14SUFRNG::WSA038::SATTERFIELDClose enough for jazz.Sat Apr 02 1994 10:338
re .13

I remember that series, I kinda liked it. I don't think it was Ellen D. though.
Anyone remember?


Randy
245.15Who is that man?GLDOA::VONIERI Brake for HallucinationsSat Apr 09 1994 06:549
    Watched this for the first time the other night, thought it was ok, but
    not comparable to Seinfeld.
    
    It was bothering me as to where I've seen a couple of the other cast
    members.  I can't for the life of me figure out who the guy is, any
    clues?  The actress with the short blonde hair finally came to me, she
    played Hannah's best friend on Anything But Love.
    
    cheers
245.16Ellen's Back!DEMON::DEMON::COURTWit happens.Thu Jul 28 1994 23:4912
    Moderators, I guess the time to rename this note is finally upon us.  I
    saw a promo on ABC last night where Ellen Degeneres is walking back and
    forth across her couch cushions, deliriously singing, "I'm on after
    Roseanne ... I'm on after Roseanne," to the tune of "Nyah Nyah Nyah
    Nyah Nyah Nyah."
    
    "Ellen," formerly "These Friends of Mine," returns Tuesday at 9:30
    (8:30 Central, I imagine) on ABC.
    
    Mike
    
    
245.17TROOA::TRP109::Chrisit has no face, no personalityWed Aug 10 1994 07:528
The guy on the show is Arie Gross (sp?)  I recognize the name but can't 
remember what movies he's been in.  I thought the show was pretty funny - 
same kind of humour as "Mad about You" and "Seinfeld".  Looking forward to 
tonights episode - does anybody know if Adam and Ellen are 
boyfriend/girlfriend now or in past (like Jerry and Elaine?) TV Guide made 
it sound like they live together but I wasn't sure if it is platonic or not.

Thanks.
245.18BUSY::FISED::SLABOUNTYAsk for a mine and I'll give you the shaft.Wed Aug 10 1994 08:049
    
    	Arye Gross was in the movie "Boris and Natacha" [?] as the
    	bell-hop, among others.
    
    	Oh, how about "House III" or "House IV"?  I think it was
    	"House III", having something to do with an indian curse.
    
    							GTI
    
245.19BoringCRISTA::MAYNARDThe Front Row KidWed Aug 10 1994 23:416
    This reminds me more of Three's Company than it does of Seinfeld.
    The writing and the comedic timing is just awful. I like Ellen
    Degeneres as a stand-up comic, but all she does on this show is
    react to everyone elses stupidity-boring. I've watched 3 episodes,and
    have crossed this off my list...
                                    Jim
245.20DEMON::DEMON::COURTWit happens.Thu Aug 11 1994 00:3724
    Arye Gross also starred in "The Opposite Sex and How to Live With
    Them," or something like that.  I don't know if it was ever in
    theatres, but it's probably in your video store.  I think he resembles
    Julian Lennon.
    
    I'm hot and cold on this show.  There was one episode where Ellen,
    succumbing to pressure from her mother, bought her boss a baby gift. 
    Ellen had one of her classic, run-on-sentence monologues where she just
    kept getting herself in deepr and deeper.  I watched the tape of that
    episode several times - and watched that scene even more.
    
    Another episode, where Ellen went to her high school reunion, was
    extrememly contrived.  I didn't laugh once.
    
    I like her enough to keep writing.
    
    When the show returns with new episodes in the fall, I imagine we'll
    see some changes, including, I hope, the mysterious disappearance of
    the brunette friend.
    
    Mike
    
    
    
245.21OopsDEMON::DEMON::COURTWit happens.Thu Aug 11 1994 00:387
    re: .20
    
    "I like her enough to keep writing."
    
    Ahem.  I mean watching.
    
    Mike
245.22TROOA::TRP109::Chrisit has no face, no personalityThu Aug 11 1994 01:543
Last nights episode was lame.  Too bad, cause I really enjoyed the week 
before.  I guess this will be one of the shows I flip on when there's 
nothing else worth watching. 
245.23TFH::TOMAOSat Sep 03 1994 03:453
    Bleack....I give up on this one.
    
    Jt
245.24'Friends?'SMURF::CCHAPMANWed May 15 1996 13:178
    Was there any warning that Ellen would be a take-off on 'Friends" last
    night? Any discussion?  Any purpose stated?  It was a take-off, right?  
    I was left with a feeling of so...... now what?
    
    This show has become one of the shows that I try and catch -- but
    last night was a little more off-center than usual.
    
    Carel
245.25not a take-off!SMURF::CCHAPMANThu May 16 1996 13:116
    To answer my own question -- the Tuesday night Ellen was a unreleased
    episode from 1994!  It wasn't a take off!  It was just ... not funny.
    
    Glad they went to the new format .... and the *new* Ellen.
    
    C.
245.26[^;=POLAR::TYSICKPrying Open my Third EyeThu May 01 1997 16:135
    Oh my Gawd!  
    
    Ellen is Lebanese!
    
    	Jay
245.27CLUSTA::MAIEWSKIBraves, 1914 1957 1995 WS ChampsFri May 02 1997 10:189
  Anyone catch the show? I saw it and I thought it was one of the best Ellen
shows I've seen, not just because of the controversy, it was really funny.

  The entire cast was great. The jokes were great, the timing was great,
everyone seemed to be really on.

  Laura Dern was both outstanding and breath taking as always.

  George
245.28In the supermaret! In the supermarket!SMURF::PETERTrigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertaintyFri May 02 1997 13:0117
    Yep, saw it. Enjoyed it.  But then I've always liked this show.
    I'm not sure you can really compare it to a 'regular' episode
    what with all the hype around it, but it had some classic 
    moments.  I had fun trying to pick out the guest stars.  The 
    only ones I couldn't figure out were the cashier during the 
    dream sequence, and the guitarist/waiter in the coffehouse,
    if indeed that was a celebrity star, rather than some random
    guest star.  I thought at first she was kd lang, as I saw that 
    part before the dream sequence (kids/dinner, caught on tape)
    but then I realized upon seeing the earlier parts on tape, that
    kd lang was only in the dream sequence, where it seemed everyone
    was a celebrity.  But that cashier???
    
    It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.  Next week
    Ellen in three-D??  Where do I get my glasses?
    
    PeterT
245.29TROOA::BUTKOVICHclowns to left/jokers to rightFri May 02 1997 13:295
    the cashier was Gina Gerhin (sp?) who was in "Bound" with Jennifer
    Tilly and the guitarist was K.D. Lang.
    
    Other celebrities in the grocery store - Billy Bob Thorton, Demi Moore
    and Dwight Yoakum.
245.30MRPTH1::16.34.80.132::slab[email protected]Fri May 02 1997 14:043
Gina Gershon was also the star of the show featured in "Showgirls".

245.31Last scene, before Melissa EtheridgeALFA1::ACQUAFRESCATake me to the beach, please!!!!Fri May 02 1997 14:193
    Was the woman who tried to pick up Paige one of the doctors on ER?
    
    Cheryl
245.32JULIET::CORDES_JASix Tigers on My CouchFri May 02 1997 14:593
    Yep, she is one of the ER doctors.  
    
    Jan
245.33POWDML::VENTURAGreat Goodley Moogley!Wed May 07 1997 17:301
    BTW:  You can get the glasses at Wendy's.