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Title:The TV Chatter Notes Conference
Notice:Welcome to TV Chatter :-)
Moderator:PASTA::PIERCE
Created:Wed Dec 16 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:498
Total number of notes:5416

207.0. "The Forsyte Saga" by VNABRW::BARTAK (Andrea Bartak, Vienna, Austria) Wed Jan 05 1994 04:32

    I hope someone can help me.
    
    Long long ago (approx 20 years or more) there was a TV series
    which had the name "Forsyth Saga" or "Foresythe Saga". It was somthing
    like the mother of Dynasty or Dallas.
    
    Unfortunately I cannot remember anything of it, only that at this time
    i really liked it and did not miss any week.
    
    Does someone remember some actors who played in it and some vague plot
    (in which age, which society it played) ?
      
    
    Andrea
    
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207.1BUSY::KVILLANIThu Jan 06 1994 02:567
    Andrea,
    
    I will check the book on television series that I have.  it is a BIG
    book, and I am sure it will list this series.  I will check tonight
    and update tomorrow.
    
    Karen
207.2ELYSEE::ZIMANSat Jan 08 1994 00:046
    this is based on a book, which I have at home.  I will look this
    weekend for the author.   It was indeed a good series.
    
    
    2 characters were Soames and Irene.  
    -lz
207.3ELYSEE::ZIMANSat Jan 08 1994 07:0658
    The Forsyte Saga, on television, was based on a seried of
    nine novels by John Galsorthy  (he by the way won the nobel
    prize for literature)
    
    I will give the synopsis after the formfeed so if you don't want to
    know the plot, skip the rest
    
    
    
    Galsworthy wrote novels throughout his life but strictly speaking,
    the Saga consists of "The Man of Property" In Chancery" and
    To Let" but the TV series also drew from some of the later books.
    
    The Fosytes are a large upper middle class family of conventional
    materialisti business men. When the saga opens, ten members of the
    oldest generations are still alive.  Most of the novels are concerned
    with 2 members of the second generation, Soames Forsyte and young
    Jolyon and their children.
    
    The man of property is Soames Forsyte. A typical member of the Forsyte 
    family.  His wife, Irene, Whom he regards as his, and just another
    piece  of property. Irene falls in love with Philip Bosinney, a young
    architect.  Soames devotes all his money and power to punishing them
    and phillip is killed in an accident  Irene and Soames divorce
    and Irene marries Young Jolyon.  Young Jolyon is the only
    sensitive member of the Forsyte family. Soames marries a
    french woman, Annette.  Soames has a daughter, Fleur, and much of
    the later episodes of the TV show focused on her.  The Saga is
    set between 1880 and 1930, and the overall premise is the
    rift between Irene and Soames, dystroys the family for generations.
    For, Fleur falls in love with Jon, the son of young Jolyon and Irene. 
    When the young couple learns the truth about their parents
    (and all that Soames did to Irene) Jon draws back to remain
    loyal to his mother.
    
    Fleur marries and man called Michael Mont and much of the later series
    is about them and their friends, and it is a story of
    the events of the age.  The series shows that Forsytes
    were out of touch and unprepared for the changes that
    time brought into their lives.
    
    Galsworthy was attacking the smug conventionality and self rightgeous
    hypocracy of the middle class (instantiated in Soames)
    and championed the artist, the rebel and the underdog.
    (this is in the first half of the series)
    
    but later in the series, he seemed to become more sentimental and
    traditional, and took a lighter and more sympathetic
    view. (which has in the series, Soames not looking so one dimensionally
    wicked)
    In the US, this was played on Public
    television, and they might be able to help locate the tapes
    in Europe, it was done by BBC
    
    Anyway, hope thi helps.
    
    -lz
    
207.4I'd watch it again!BEDAZL::MAXFIELDSat Jan 08 1994 07:3122
    It was called "The Forsyte Saga" (no h).
    
    This series is sort of the mother of "Masterpiece Theater".
    It was so wildly popular in England (people canceled social
    engagements to stay home to watch) that the idea of showing
    continuing dramatic series was born (in the format we now know as
    Masterpiece Theater).
    
    Eric Porter played Soames, Susan Hampshire his spoiled daughter
    Fleur, and Margaret Tyzak (last seen as young Indy's tutor) played
    one of Soames' sisters.  I watched it twice, when it was shown on
    two different PBS stations (Boston, and NH), in the early 70's.
    I think it was done in black and white, which may be why it's
    never been shown (to my knowledge) since.  Of course it coule
    be that my tv was b&w, and that's how I remember it. ;-)
    
    Incidentally, a 1949 MGM movie called "That Forsythe Woman"
    starring Errol Flynn as Soames and Greer Garson as Irene 
    is a barely adequate version of the first of the novels
    ("A Man of Property").
    
    Richard
207.5VNABRW::BARTAKAndrea Bartak, Vienna, AustriaMon Jan 10 1994 20:3510
    re.- last
    Thanks a lot for the infos.
    Slowly it comes to my mind again.... 
    
    I really would like to see it again - but I also cannot remember
    that after the initial broadcast it was in our TV again.
    
    But I surely will get the books!
    
    Andrea
207.6COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs and some nuts.Fri Jan 14 1994 00:418
        Re -.last
        
>>    I really would like to see it again - but I also cannot remember
        
        It is available on video in the UK. I've seen it as 12
        individual tapes at �11 each, and also as an 8 tape box set.
        
        Ian.
207.7VNABRW::BARTAKAndrea Bartak, Vienna, AustriaTue Jan 18 1994 04:3910
    re .-1
    
    So maybe I'll find it in the British Book (and Video) Shop here
    in Vienna. I would not like to buy it, only rent it.
    It's not available in German language, I've already checked that.
    
    Meanwhile I have bought the book(s). It is above 1000 pages, so I'm
    busy for a while ;-)   
    
    Andrea