Conference ljsrv1::tv_chatter

    EDDIE !!!!!! the way they panned to Eddie on the couch after the look
    on Frazer's face was great ! and the guy playing his brother looks like
    he could be his real brother....a very good start.

    bringing in the 'eclectic' Herculon lounger was the best. doesn't
    everyone's father have one ?
    
    the woman who plays the 'psychic' homecare worker is great.
    
    we thought this was a great first show. can't wait to see what
    'maris' is like (hope not another no-see like Vera)

    God, I can relate to this man.  Having things just so and then being
    invaded by REAL HUMAN BEINGS who are less than perfect.  Looking for
    silence and privacy, cherishing it even when the setting is less than
    perfect.  Easing into the day with a good cup of coffee.  Ah, the
    civilized life.
    
    I liked the second show better than the first.  I hope it takes off.
    
    Linda

    last night was positively hysterical...i cried i was laughing so hard.
    
    when they (frasier, niles, and dad)
    were in the TIMBERMILL restaurant with the steak trolley and
    potatoes with bacon bits, i thought i would die.  such 'gourmands' 
    eating at a 'Hilltop'-type restaurant...a perfect comic setting.
    
    this show is even funnier than Cheers, if you can believe it

    It was a great episode!
    
    I was laughing out loud.
    
    I liked the line Fraser said when Mable grabbed Niles' hand and said
    she was psychic and FRaser said "we decided to find it charming" 
    
    :^)
    
    Joyce

    I like this show. But I, along with Miles and Frasier, find it
    unbelieveable that they really share *any* genes with their 
    father (aside from overdeveloped calves :^).
    
    Even if they did grow up into the men they are, in spite of
    dad.  A man like that would *never* name or allow his wife
    to name a son of his Frasier or Miles!  Bubba, maybe.
    
    Jodi-

    
    There was a Cheers episode in which Frasier's mother threatens to
    kill Diane if she even thinks of marrying her son. A classic episode
    that is one of the running jokes on Frasier. As I recall the mother
    was even snottier than the son.
    					Jim

    
    In case anyone is interested, there is a restaurant up in the mountains
    of Arizona called 'Pinnacle Pete's'.  If you walk in wearing a regular
    tie, the waitresses will come over to you, draw a pair of scissors from
    thier holster and snip it off.
    
    There were hundreds of snipped ties lining the rafters and walls with
    3X5 cards attached to them identifying the victims.
    
    
    Mike

  I think I see a pattern forming. The 1st 2/3rds of the show are small labeled
out takes that are side splitting role on the floor funny. During the last
1/3rd they drop the signs announcing the scenes and try to get serious but end
up being smaltzy with some embarrassing type humor thrown in for balance.

  If they stayed with the humor and didn't try to take themselves seriously
it would be much better.

  Still overall it's a fun show,
  George

	This show is tops in the ratings compared to all the other
	"new" shows this season.  I'm sure the timeslot is helping too :-)

    I like this show. Miles reminds me of a male version of Lillith.
    
    And I suspect we will never, ever meet Mile's wife.
    
    Anyone know?...is Eddy a Wire Haired Jack Russell terrier?
    
    Jodi-

>    I like this show. Miles reminds me of a male version of Lillith.

I'm going to have to start listening more carefully to names...  I thought
that Frasier's brother's name was Niles rather than Miles, and that Stuart's
cousin in L.A. Law was Eli rather than Eliot.  Should I be going for a 
hearing test?

                                          Tracy

    Tracy, you're probably right about the Niles.  
    
    As far as Eli/Eliot goes...I don't know.
    
    Jodi-who went for a hearing test last month cause I
         couldn't understand a thing my 8 year old was 
         saying to me. Turns out my hearing is excellent.
         The doctor says my daughter needs to learn to
    	 speak up. :^)

  Eli sounds right as well although Eli and Eliot sound like they might
be the same name, sort of like Doug and Douglass.

  George

    Niles it is.......and I like the chemistry between Frazier and his
    brother - liek someone mentioned in an earlier note - they look enough
    alike to be real blood brothers.
    
    The dog is a nice touch - and so far they haven't over done it - the
    last scene with the dog staring at the picture was great!
    
    Joyce

    
    I think that the dogs real name would have been even funnier for	
    the show.  "Moose"
    
    I guess even animals have to use stage names.
    
    GARF :-)
    
    

    man I was in tears last night when Frasier gos to his dad, "Bangers,
    Dad ?"
    
    good show but it fizzled near the end...

    I too was in stiches during that part. It was real funny to see how
    Frazier acted about his dad sleeping with that woman.
    
    I also thought it funny when one of the callers was going on about his
    voice and they were fooling around in the booth. That cracked me up.
    
    RDf 

    RE: the character names,
    
    Someone, a while back, mentioned that the housekeeper was "Mable" --
    sorry its "Daphne"
    
    Debby
    

    This show cracks me up!  I find myself laughing out loud and that is
    not usual for me.  Especially the episode when Lillith showed up.  I
    could do without Niles (except his interactions with Daphne)!  Talk
    about opposites from their parent.  Guess thats what makes it funny.
    
    -sandy
    

    
    I didn't think I'd like this show, I even told myself..."you'll hate
    this" but I watched it becasue I like Sienfild and LA LAW and Fraiser
    comes between them... well I've seen it from Day 1 and I love it.
    
    I don't know why.. I hated Fraiser on Cheers...mabye is the dog?  :-)
    
    Lkp

    
    I LOVE this show.  It is the crowning touch of my Thursday night.  What
    an odd assortment of characters.  But it works!  Especially Eddie!
    
    Velda
    

    
    This show is being moved to Tuesdays at 9:00 opposite Roseanne.
    Not sure what will be replacing it on Thursdays. Probably a weak sitcom
    to take advantage of the Seinfeld lead-in...
    						Jim

>     Not sure what will be replacing it on Thursdays. Probably a weak sitcom
>     to take advantage of the Seinfeld lead-in...

	See topic 109 for network prime time schedules ....

    Whenever Frasier is listening to a caller on his radio show, it usually
    turns out to be a real life celebrity doing an unseen cameo.  Watch the
    credits at the end of the show to see who the caller is.  So far, the 
    callers have been people like  Eddie Van Halen, Carl Reiner, Jo Beth
    Williams, Jay Leno and others.  It helps to tape the show and then
    freeze-frame the credits to see who the caller's are 'cuz the credits
    go by pretty fast.
    
    

    Steve Lawrence and Edie Gorme (sp) were callers and Mary Tyler Moore
    
    
    They do attract a mixed crowd.
    
    Sooo have the Boston area viewers heard?  Channel 4 (Liz Walker, Bob
    Lobel news team) has now switched affiliates to CBS they will no longer
    be NBC affiliate thus no more, FRasier, Wings, Mad ABout You and
    Sienfeld - to name just a few.
    
    Thank goodness I get Providence's channel 10
    
    Joyce

    Two CBS affiliates in the same market?  Is that allowed by the FCC? 
    When does this take effect?  
    
    If WBZ is switiching to CBS, another channel will likely switch to NBC. 
    Boston is too big a market not to have an NBC affiliate.  

    CBS announcement in Boston area discussions moved to 109.*
    
    Joyce
    co-mod

    Well, preliminary reports from Nielsen say that "Frasier" got
    hammered by "Home Improvement" on Tuesday night. HI had a 22 percent
    share, while Frasier had 15 percent. Ditto for the rest of the
    lineup. ABC was a clear winner, with CBS distant 3rd.
    
    It's too bad, because I thought the show (based very loosely on 
    The Bridges of Madison County) was as funny as always.
    Synopsis follows Form Feed.
    
    Many years ago, while sitting at Cheers Frasier had told a stranger a
    story about his first love affair with an "older woman."
    Now 25 years later, Frasier finds that this stranger has written a 
    "romance novel" about the affair
     with turgid prose and infinite detail. The book
    (Slow Tango in Seattle) has become a huge hit with the women in Seattle
    (including Roz and Daphne.) Frasier decides to find his "first love"
    to put finality to that part of his life.
    There was also a great bit with Eddie. After getting a lecture from 
    his father about how people complicate their lives, ("Look at Eddie,
    all he needs is an old sock to be happy...") every time Frasier least
    expects it, he turns around and there's Eddie with an old sock...
                                             Jim

    Nielsen doesn't take into account the VCR factor.

>>    Nielsen doesn't take into account the VCR factor.

I'm pretty sure that they do.  When I was a "Nielson family" for a week, I had
to mark down the shows I taped as well as the ones I watched.  I thought it
was funny that there was no way to indicate whether I actually watched the
things I taped.

						Tracy

    Great promo for next week's show: Apparently, Eddie has sired a litter,
    and we see Frasier with a boxful of puppies that look just like
    Eddie, screaming "STOP STARING AT ME"
                                         Jim

Just read that the dog gets more fan mail than Kelsey Grammer does.

  Anyone catch Frasier last night? It was one of the funniest ones I've ever
seen. Big laughs all the way through.

  "Dad was going to tell you but I won the coin toss".

  George

    Last night's show was great!  Unfortunately, as of last week though,
    the show had slipped to number 19. They need to do what CBS did with
    Chicago Hope, change the time or the night!  Frasier is not doing well
    against Home Improvement at all.
    
    Cheryl

    Last night's show was pretty funny.  I liked the look on Roz's face as
    she changed her mind about telling the station manager the "right"
    thing about Fraiser (him having irked her by assuming she was trying to
    put the moves on the manager).  
    
    "He's absolutely wild about Chardonnay."  :)
    
    Also, Niles' expression when it dawned on him that the station manager
    wasn't after Daphne after all.  
    
    
    kim
    

    
    I have not laughed so hard in my life!  The ending w/ Dafaine(sp)
    tossing her strapless bra in the air was the topper!
    
    More behind spoiler
    
    
    
    When ever the new Mgr asked Niles if he objected to him dating his
    brother and Niles answer was a quite/firm NO .. I was rolling!!!
    
    Great show!
    
    

    Can someone give a summary of the show. I missed it... still getting
    used to the new fall schedule.
    
    thanks!
    
    janetb.

    A summary of 10/4's show: (spoilers ho!)
    
    
    
    
    
    Basically, the plot concerned Daphne and Fraiser commiserating about
    their love life, or lack of.  Fraiser decided that he'd try to find
    somebody to set Daphne up with.  Consulting with Roz, Fraiser managed
    to insult her (implying that Roz's taste in men wasn't suitable for
    Daphne -- as if Fraiser held Daphne to some higher light :).  Niles, of
    course, was aghast at Daphne being set up with anybody.
    
    At any rate, Roz tried to suggest some guys, but Fraiser turned them
    down.   Then he met the new Station Manager (Tom, I believe), who's
    single, handsome and looking (and having recently moved back to the
    States from England). Fraiser, with visions of the Perfect Match,
    invited Tom over for dinner, not telling Tom that it was a setting up
    effort.
    
    Tom and Roz then talked, where Tom made it quite clear that Tom thought
    Fraiser was asking him over to dinner because Fraiser wanted to date
    Tom. Roz was about to inform Tom that no, Fraiser was quite straight
    and narrow, but then Fraiser managed to upset her again and she just
    let it all slide.
    
    The rest of the show concerned the whole misunderstanding about just
    why Tom was there -- Fraiser inadvertantly making comments that
    furthered his dilemma (unbeknownst to him, of course), poor Daphne
    being quite taken with Tom (he was very cute), Niles being huffy and
    overprotective until he realized who Tom was there to "date", etc.
    
    
    Things were cleared up at the end, of course, but it was pretty funny.
    
    
    Hope that helps,
    
    kim

    
    Another point (behind a spoiler):
    
    
    
    �When ever the new Mgr asked Niles if he objected to him dating his
    �brother and Niles answer was a quite/firm NO .. I was rolling!!!
    
    This was in response to Niles being rather snippy all night.  Frasier
    questioned it too, saying it was because Niles didn't like that Frasier
    had set Daphne up with Tom.  Niles' reply was very truthful:
    
    "No, I think he is the perfect man for Daphne to be set up with."
    
    And at the end, when Tom was leaving and trying to figure out who was
    and wasn't gay, he couldn't believe that Niles was straight.  His
    question was "you mean that 'Maris' he's been referring to all night
    isn't a guy?".  Frazier's response: "the jury's still out on that one."
    
    Very funny show.  But the Home Improvements that I've been taping have
    been very funny too.  Especially when Jill went to the auto body shop
    to get her book out of the car and interacted with the owner.
    

    Thanks! I definately have to get the VCR going!
    
    janetb.

    No comments for awhile on this show which is the only one I ever
    attempt to watch.  Btw, I think Niles makes the show, great actor as
    they all are and it's a show where there actually is acting (in a
    comedy).
    
    I think I saw where Maris was leaving Niles.  Usually that occurs
    because the contract is up but in this case they can quite easily move
    this Maris in and out whenever like.  Same writers as Cheers, am I
    correct?

    The lines they have been giving Niles this past season are making him
    myfavorite character. Of cource I can't remember any at the moment, but
    there were several during last week's episode that had both of us
    laughing hard.
    
    It's also nice when you see Frasier as something other than his typical
    pompous self - as he was helping Roz.
    
    great show and series!

    What is the name of the actor who plays Roz? Just watched Sleepless in
    Seattle last night and the late night "talk show" host sounded very
    much like her, but the credits flew by too fast.
    
    
    thanks!

    If I'm not mistake, the actress's name is Peri Gilpen.
    
    
    
    kim

    re .44

>    I think I saw where Maris was leaving Niles.  Usually that occurs
>    because the contract is up but in this case they can quite easily move
>    this Maris in and out whenever like.  Same writers as Cheers, am I
>    correct?

    Funny you say this, because Maris is one of the handful of sitcom
    characters we never see. They can write her in and out all they like,
    and no one has to listen to her complaints.

    Lisa

    Last night's episode was funny - 
    
    General overview - niles moves into a posh new apartment
    building and tries to impress new neighbors with a dinner party. He's
    has to part with the dog, since the place allows pets, but not cats and
    dogs, but he gets himself a cocketiel. The night of the party the bird
    attaches himself to Nile's head in a fit of panic and the rest of the
    evening is spent with niles trying to get the bird off, and staying in
    the kitchen because he's too embarrassed about having a bird on his
    head.
    
    funny scene was where Frasier and the Dad are trying to convince Niles
    the dog is just a substitute for Marris. "stand her up on her back
    legs, drop 10 pounds, put on a channel suit and it's marris"  and the
    pudding cup on the dog's head ... "remember the pill box hat marris
    wore to mumblysomething's wedding" which finally makes Niles see the
    resemblance.
    
    the other interesting item - is the same joke shows up in this show and
    in the Home Improvement show (same time, same day, different channel).
    the joke about winston churchhill/some woman/cup of tea with poison. I
    probably wouldn't have noticed it but I tape frasier and watch it right
    after home improvement. I picture some lunch/party with a bunch of
    writers and they all hear the joke and figure a way to incorporate it
    in their respective shows!  some coincidence of being on the same
    night!
    
    show continues to be good.
    
    
    

    The Churchill joke is famous. I took it to show that Frasier was
    so exhausted keeping the guests entertained that he was reduced to
    telling old chestnuts a crowd like that would surely have heard before. 
    
    I liked the reaction of the guy who had heard the joke before,
    from Churchill himself. Hah!
                   
    

They've just GOT to have an episode with Merris in it! I wonder who they'd get
to play her?

Steve B.

> They've just GOT to have an episode with Merris in it!

	Won't happen.  Just like we've never seen Norm's wife (Cheers),
	other than her hand I believe, or never seen Mrs. Columbo on
	the original Columbo series.

    I watched this episode again over the weekend and some more lines which
    had me giggling...
    
    Opening scene with Daphne and Father - Daphne mentions the recliner has
    another rip, father asks for his repair kit, she throws him a large
    roll of electrical tape. He's taping it up when Frasier comes out of
    the bedroom area and comments on how "dad, it's trying to die, why
    don't you just let it die in peace". There may have even been a comment
    about putting the chair out of it's misery. The father, having finished
    taping, sits in the chair and comments how he has dreams where frasier
    is having that same conversation, but it's in a hospital and it's the
    father being talked about. Frasier makes a comment something like -
    "don't be silly dad. That would never happen"...pause... "I have
    medical power of attorney, it would be easier"  (said in that droll
    voice frasier uses when he's being funny but part serious.)
    
    Niles stops in at Frasier's apartment with the dog.
        "We just happened to be in the neighborhood getting a pedicure and
    a seaweed wrap. Of course the pedicure was for..."
    Father, sitting in chair interrupts with "Stop. There's no way to
    finish that sentence which will make me proud"
    
    Niles describing his new pet to daphne, frasier, father as he walks
    them into his new kitchen:
      "She's exotic, she only eats every other day and she's so white she's
    almost blue"
    Father: "now I'm getting scared. That's what he said just before he
    introduced us to Marris"
    
    When the cocketiel is stuck on Nile's head"
    Niles - "I can't pull it off"
    Frasier - "If you could pull off the jaunty barret at brunch last week,
    you can pull anything off"
    
    I know out of context these aren't as funny, but the whole episode just
    seemed to have me giggling. Good show
    
    janetb.

> Opening scene with Daphne and Father - Daphne mentions the recliner has
> another rip, father asks for his repair kit, she throws him a large
> roll of electrical tape.

	I thought it was duct tape (the "universal" tape for fixing
	anything :-).

	I didn't find this episode overly funny.  Especially after the
	TV ads said this was going to be the funniest one in a long time.

	I find the two episodes where the farce is based on mis-understandings
	(deliberate and accidental) to be the funniest.  The funniest two
	Fraisers so far in my book are:

	    The episode where Fraiser's new boss is gay and Fraiser doesn't
	    know it and has the boss over for dinner.  The boss on the other
	    hand believes Fraiser knows he's gay and that it's a date.

	    The episode where Daphne's old boyfriend comes to visit and
	    Daphne pretends to be married to Niles, and the lies compound
	    from there.

	Both of those episodes had my laughing laughing out loudly.  Something
	quite rare for me when watching TV.

    
    Fraiser is on Wed this time, I very excited. I hope they keep it their. 
    Their is absoulty *nothing* on Wednedsys that I like.  I end up reading
    a book (a good thing to do) but I love and miss Fraiser.  My husband is
    a huge Tim Allen fan, and his show in on the same time that Fraiser is
    on.  I get my way w.with the TV 6 days a week, he only ask's to watch
    Tim, so what can I do :-)
    
    Lou

    Kick'em out or Tape it!   [^;=
    
    	J

> Fraiser is on Wed this time, I very excited. I hope they keep it their.

	Usually when a show is aired on it's non-normal night, they
	call is "a very special [the-show's-name-here]", which usually
	means it's a rerun they are using as a filler.

	Looking in the TV guide it shows that Fraiser is on in it's
	normal time slot tonight (Tues, 9pm) and on Wed at 8pm.
	At least one, if not both, of those shows is bound to be
	a rerun (unlike the old days, the networks don't appear to
	notify TV guides as often when I show is a rerun).  The
	name of the episodes according to my TV guide (called "TV Week")
	has tonight's episode named "Mixed Doubles", and Wed's "special"
	episode is named "Head Game".

> Their is absoulty *nothing* on Wednedsys that I like.

	Not a "Wings" *or* "News Radio" fan?

    
    Well if it's a repeat, it wont matter to me since I have not seen 1
    show this year.   As for New Raido, I'd rather pull out my nose hairs.
    
    Wings, I used to love wings - I think it's time for it be put to rest.
    I still watch it from time to time but it's not the same.
    
    FWIW:  I don't tape Fraiser because I tape to meny things as it is, I
    really don't want to tape one more.  And Hubby puts up with me watching
    General Hospital everyday and Melrose on Mondays, so I figure if he
    wants to watch Tim, he can watch Tim :-)
    
    Lou

If you think Wednesday is a TV wasteland try The Larry Sanders Show, 10:00pm on
HBO.  IMHO one of the best shows on TV.

cheers,
dave

> If you think Wednesday is a TV wasteland try The Larry Sanders Show, 10:00pm on
> HBO.  IMHO one of the best shows on TV.
                                      ^^

	you mean "... on pay channel CABLE TV"

    
    	I get HBO on my TV also, Mr. nit-picker.
    
    	If someone suggests that I watch "The Flintstones" on WLVI [Boston
    	56] should I pipe up that my TV has a hard time receiving UHF stat-
    	ions so the information is somewhat useless?
    
    	8^)
    

Mea Culpa....I'm new to the conference and didn't realize that HBO et. al. are
excluded. :^(


/d

    
    10:00pm!  Yikes.  I go the gym everymorning at 5:00am, so I am in bed
    everynight at 9:00 or 9:30pm
    
    Lou

    I get up at 9, lay around eating bonbons all day, go to bed at
    midnight, and don't have cable.

    <--- Are you sure you're not Peggy Bundy!  [^;=
    
    	Jay

    Last week's episode - where the radio station is putting on a 1/2hr
    horror/murder mystery show, with frasier directing it -  was a real HOOT!
    
    didn't get a chance to watch it until this weekend and laughed through
    the whole thing. Once again, they gave Niles the best lines! When the
    players started to mutiny and the plot of the radio show had to keep
    changing... niles and frasier were great.
    
    Lately watching this show, I feel that Niles has almost become the lead
    with frasier as his supporting actor.
    
    janetb.

    
    I to got to see that one, it was a HOOT!  :-)  The whole cast is just
    top notch.
    
    lkp