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Conference ljsrv1::tv_chatter

Title:The TV Chatter Notes Conference
Notice:Welcome to TV Chatter :-)
Moderator:PASTA::PIERCE
Created:Wed Dec 16 1992
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:498
Total number of notes:5416

83.0. "Is TV news a pawn of the Democratic Party?" by ASDG::SBILL () Tue Feb 23 1993 05:13

    
    Ever since the presidential election (and maybe a little bit before),
    I've had this feeling that CNN, and the other networks are no longer 
    objective when it comes to political issues (if it ever was). They seem to 
    be getting VERY selective about what they say concerning anything
    political. What I mean is they won't hesitate to show something good about 
    the democrats, but they look the other way at anything that would make
    them look bad. I really have strong doubts about any polls they broadcast 
    too. The most recent one being the CNN/USA TODAY poll that says that 76% of
    the people approve of the president's new tax proposal. There has got to be
    something skewed about that poll. Even if the majority of the people 
    approved of it, I find it rediculous that it would be by that large a 
    margin. Their sample must have been taken from colleges and union halls. 
    Maybe Jane Fonda made up the numbers herself :-).
    
    I for one am going to take any political reporting they do with a grain
    of salt. Think of it this way...my feeling about this may sound
    paranoid, but think of the power that TV has. Most people form their
    opinions based on the information that they have at their disposal.
    Like it or not, many people get most of their information from TV and
    the messages they send can be much more powerful than the printed word.
    If they wanted to influence opinions, they could do so quite easily.
    The polls are a good example, many people form some of their opinions
    based on what they think everyone else's opinion is. The networks know
    this (a very common form of advertising is based on "everybody thinks
    this product is great, so you should too"). If they wanted to skew
    opinion in one direction or another, all they would need to do would be to
    "report" that everybody is already thinking in the desired way and
    voila it's "true". 
    
    Always question wether what they say is true, never unconditionally accept 
    what they show you as fact.
    
    Steve  
    IS true then
    the networks are slowly but surely telling you how to vote by molding
    your opinions to match theirs.     
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83.1MILPND::J_TOMAOPracticeRandomActsOfKindness&BeautyTue Feb 23 1993 05:3918
    Steve some of what you've written may be true - no longer objective
    etc. but I remeber feeling the same way during the Reagan the Bush
    years.  So I believe it all depends on how cynical you (not you specific
    you in general) are towrds what is being reported.  I strongly believe
    everyone should take everything we see, especially hear with a grain of
    salt.  Like newspapers (I remember the Herald backing Silber - UGHHHH)
    they are run by humans and it must be difficult for an editor to
    separate her opinions from 'just the facts' - How about the stupidest
    (in my opinion) poll I ever heard was taken - 4 blocks from the
    Democratic National convention people were asked if they believed the
    Democrats would gain control of the White House in 93?  
    
    So yes Steve I've noticed it too but for me it gave me a warm hopeful
    feeling until I reminded myself to 'take it with a grain of salt'
    
    But no, I don't think TV news is a pawn of the Democratic Party.
    
    Joyce 
83.2HELIX::MAIEWSKITue Feb 23 1993 06:0533
  This is a common complaint put forward by right wing think tanks and I
couldn't disagree more. What happened was that the conservatives got use to
controlling the public dialogue during the 80's when the popularity of Reagan
and Bush was at it's highest and now that Reagonomics has failed people are
insisting on more objective reporting. 

  During the 80's, Republicans could say anything and no one questioned a word
they said. Everyone was happy with the "Teflon president" and those who said
Reagonomics was only working due to massive deficit spending were ignored. Now
that Reagonomics has resulted in the largest deficit in the history of the
world and the 2nd worse economic slump of the century, other ideas are getting
equal time and right wing think tankers are crying foul. 

  But unlike the pro-conservative reporting of the 80's, Clinton is taking his
lumps along with the credit. He was beat up badly by the media for not
realizing in advance that the nation was against illegal aliens as baby
sitters. He also took more heat than any president before him for the timing in
which he announced cabinet officials. He endured the strongest press scrutiny
ever experienced by a president elect for the 2 months leading up to his
inauguration and he was certainly beat up over personal issues during the
campaign.

  What's happening is that for the right wing, the gravy train is over. There's
no more standing up and bleating on and on about tax cuts unless politicians
are willing to be specific as to where the corresponding spending cuts would be
made. We can no longer afford to cut taxes, raise spending and borrow to
make up the difference which is the legacy of Reagonomics. 

  While aggressive, the political reporting we've heard since the recession hit
bottom has been the most objective reporting we've heard in 12 years. It's a
very welcome breath of fresh air. 

  George 
83.3Media has shunned a major part of its job for many yearsTNPUBS::NAZZAROI want a real adventure!Tue Feb 23 1993 07:1113
    You know, it's funny you bring up this topic.  I feel that the
    opposite was true for most of the '80s while Reagan was running 
    up the incredible deficit we are now saddled with.  For some reason,
    the press always treated him with kid gloves.  The "me first"
    generation spawned by the Reagan years fed off this laizze faire
    approach the media had toward Reagan.  Now that it's time to pay
    up for the head in the sand approach of those years, the media has
    suddenly decided to emphasize the potentially destructive nature of 
    the federal deficit, which they tacitly approved of by just going
    along with the Reagan-Bush years instead of publicizing the depth
    of the staggering debt we now face.
    
    NAZZ
83.4BEDAZL::MAXFIELDI'll pay taxes for health/education.Wed Feb 24 1993 02:2923
    Here's some anecdotal evidence:
    
    When popularity polls for Reagan and Bush were done, no one asked
    me (I was never in favor of either of them)...
    
    When popularity polls were done for the Gulf War, no one asked me
    (I was against it, in favor of continued and stronger sanctions)
    
    When polls were conducted about Clinton's economic plan, no one
    asked me (I'm in favor of it)...
    
    I agree with Nazz, seems like the media is concentrating on the
    potential negatives of Clinton's plan, without going into the
    same detail as to the potential benefits.  
    
    I do agree that polls may affect the opinion of some (those who
    might otherwise say Not Sure if asked), but in general, polls
    are to be taken with a large grain of salt.  Depending on how
    questions are phrased, the same people might answer questions about
    the same topic in entirely different ways.
    
    
    Richard
83.5just power junkies perhaps?VIA::LILCBR::COHENFri Feb 26 1993 08:587
It may have something to do with the adulation of the current president as opposed to
a particular party.

(As long as he's popular of course ;^) )

	Bob
83.6HELIX::MAIEWSKIFri Feb 26 1993 12:0010
  Today ABC news beat up Clinton for only having nominated 80 out of 200 some
odd sub cabinet positions, they had a line up of people saying his welfare
reform wouldn't work, and they beat him up again saying that his investments
would offset the budget cuts resulting in a large deficit. 

  If that's adulation, I wonder what the criticism will sound like? I can't
remember once during the 80's when the Republicans got beat up the way Clinton
takes a hammering every night by the evening news. 

  George 
83.7Pick 'em before you're elected...ASDG::SBILLSat Feb 27 1993 04:035
    
    Just an aside...wouldn't it be great if they had all their cabinet
    nominated before the election? 
    
    Steve
83.8HELIX::MAIEWSKISat Feb 27 1993 07:0517
  There are problems with that. For one thing, the president could change his
mind after the election. Second, the best people might not be willing to quit
their old job in advance to take a chance on their guy getting elected. 

  ABC News pointed out that the reason it was taking so long is that Clinton is
a hands on type of guy that insists on interviewing them all himself. Also
trying to get both diversity and talent takes longer because minorities and
women are not as available in the traditional stepping stone positions. Another
problem might be that it's been so long that democrats were in power that the
qualified people are not in government at all but are out in the private
sector. 

  Anyway it's not all that big a deal. By summer they will all be in place and
the media which always thinks that today's problem is much bigger than it
really is, will have forgotten all about it. 

  George