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Conference lgp30::christian-perspective

Title:Discussions from a Christian Perspective
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Moderator:CSC32::J_CHRISTIE
Created:Mon Sep 17 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1362
Total number of notes:61362

1349.0. "Anthropomorphizing God" by SMARTT::DGAUTHIER () Fri Apr 18 1997 12:36

    "If god made man in his own image, man has certainly returned the
    compliment"   -Voltaire

    It's said that God loves, hates, gets angry, can be pleased, has
    desires and lives (among others).  People do things to please god, or
    avoid his wrath, merit his love or whatever.

    How much of this anthropomorphizing is valid?
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1349.1ALFSS1::BENSONAEternal WeltanschauungFri Apr 18 1997 16:0514
    
    The true God who actually made man in his image, certainly has personal
    qualities since they are reflected in his image, man.  Furthermore, the
    Bible has God describing himself in personal terms.  However, there are
    eternal realitie which man has no ability to comprehend except in
    the form of analogy using human language.  
    
    Surely pagans throughout history have created their gods completely as
    a reflection of their ignorance of God but certainty of his existence,
    their fear of God's judgement and wrath which is evident to everyone,
    and then finally the creation of one which more or less reflects their
    carnal desires, joys, and sorrows.
    
    jeff
1349.2CSC32::J_CHRISTIESpigot of pithinessSat Apr 19 1997 01:004
    God has no hands but our hands.  God has no feet but our feet.

					-- Teresa of Avila

1349.3CSC32::J_CHRISTIESpigot of pithinessMon Apr 21 1997 13:427
    The so-dubbed J or Yahvist tradition in the hexateuch portrays God
    in quite human terms.  God strolls on the planet in the garden in the
    cool of the evening, talks aloud to humans, etc..  The P or Priestly
    tradition portrays God as more transcendental, more cosmic.
    
    Richard
    
1349.4SMARTT::DGAUTHIERTue Apr 22 1997 12:1418
    RE .1 (Jeff)
    
    Where does the image begin and where does it end?  If we are a subset
    of God, then God has a human body and a human psyche plus more?  
    
    
    RE .2 (Richard)
    
    Teresa of Avila.  A profound statement from a true mystic.  I hadn't
    seen that one before, but it sounds like something she'd have said. 
    Thanks for sharing that quote.
    
    
    -dave
    
    
    
    
1349.5ALFSS1::BENSONAEternal WeltanschauungWed Apr 23 1997 10:0229
>    RE .1 (Jeff)
    
>    Where does the image begin and where does it end?  If we are a subset
>    of God, then God has a human body and a human psyche plus more?
    
    According to the Bible, God the Father does not have a body.  Christ has 
    a body like ours, except glorified now, of course.  And the Holy Spirit 
    is a spirit.  Adam's body and psyche reflected God in some significant 
    way, prior to his sin, which was different than ours, due to our 
    sinfulness.  We still reflect our Creator's image but we are so
    affected by Adam's sin and our own actual sin that the image is greatly
    diminished, resulting in the evil, disease, false religions, and decay 
    in our world.  Regenerated believers display again a truer image of
    God.  And at death they will be transformed into God's image again as
    He intended.
    
    The distinction between God and man must forever remain since man is,
    after all, a creation and will always be and God is the Creator, always
    being.  In all God's communication with man He is condescending to us
    so that we might know Him and do His will and glorify Him.  We are
    eternally dependent upon Him which will be evident to everyone,
    finally.  So we must not make God in our image for to do so is to break
    His command against doing so and is an incredibly rebellious and
    ridiculously pretentious action.
    
    jeff 
    
        
    
1349.6PHXSS1::HEISERMaranatha!Thu Apr 24 1997 15:262
    God among us in the OT is theologically known as a theophany -
    preincarnate appearance of Christ.